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Pastor attempts to summon Spirit Bomb at same-sex marriage rally
Topic Started: Sunday Nov 7 2010, 10:37 PM (730 Views)
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If he has taken authority over the dark spirits in Jesus' name, why doesn't he just tell all of the evil protestors to go home?

Oh yeah, because he is full of shit.
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i bet hes in the tea party
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Gee, and I wonder why some people hate religion...

Does this count as wishing death upon them, and thus make him qualify as a douchebag?
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I don't ass ram anything so it's greater than nothing.

Jak
Thursday Aug 18 2011, 07:18 PM
I'm not posting in this thread. This seems ass ram a scam.
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Give him a few more episodes. You'll see.

You can't charge a Spirit Bomb in just one minute. It takes a few hours of drawn out screaming and golden hair.
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this doesn't make me think bad of religion, but it does make me think idiots are goddamn idiots
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I wish I saw the point where he realized he wasn't able to do anything and just stopped and left. After all of that you'd hope something would happen.
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Jandurin
Monday Nov 8 2010, 06:35 AM
this doesn't make me think bad of religion, but it does make me think idiots are goddamn idiots
Indeed. Jesus was all about compassion, selflessness and forgiveness. This "pastor" is manifesting none of those qualities. He is an arrogant, self-loving, close-minded, unforgiving, DOUCHE-BAG.[cleft=darkslategray][/cleft][cright=black][/cright][pleft=white][/pleft][dl=black][/dl]
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He's just a moron probably. I can't help but wonder if the gibberish he's spewing is deliberate or if he's in some sort of trance.
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"Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I came to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and a man’s enemies will be the members of his household. He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me; and he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me. And he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me. He who has found his life will lose it, and he who has lost his life for My sake will find it." (Matthew 10:34-39 NASB)
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That passage is apparently written from the perspective of an egotistical asshole who ranks up there with Hitler and Stalin.
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Pokemans > some other thing that you ass ram
I don't ass ram anything so it's greater than nothing.

Jak
Thursday Aug 18 2011, 07:18 PM
I'm not posting in this thread. This seems ass ram a scam.
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well it was written by luke as well (keep in mind this is jesus saying these things)

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and then THESE!

Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5 NLT)

All slaves should show full respect for their masters so they will not bring shame on the name of God and his teaching. 2 If the masters are believers, that is no excuse for being disrespectful. Those slaves should work all the harder because their efforts are helping other believers[a] who are well loved.




The servant will be severely punished, for though he knew his duty, he refused to do it. "But people who are not aware that they are doing wrong will be punished only lightly. Much is required from those to whom much is given, and much more is required from those to whom much more is given." (Luke 12:47-48 NLT)
Timothy 6:1-2 (New Living Translation)




22 Indeed I will cast her into a sickbed, and those who commit adultery with her into great tribulation, unless they repent of their[a] deeds. 23 I will kill her children with death, and all the churches shall know that I am He who searches the minds and hearts. And I will give to each one of you according to your works.

Revelation 2:22-23 (New King James Version)

turns out the apple doesnt fall TOO far from the tree, eh?

Jesus was an asshole.
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The fucking bible
 
"For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future" Jeremiah 29:11

As the Father has loved me, so have I loved you. Now remain in my love John 15:9

By this the love of God was manifested in us, that God has sent His only begotten Son into the world so that we might live through Him. In this is love, not that we loved God, but that He loved us and sent His Son to be the propitiation for our sins. Beloved, if God so loved us, we also ought to love one another. No one has beheld God at any time; if we love one another, God abides in us, and His love is perfected in us. 1 John 4:9-12

In accordance with your great love, forgive the sin of these people, just as you have pardoned them from the time they left Egypt until now." The LORD replied, "I have forgiven them, as you asked. Nevertheless, as surely as I live and as surely as the glory of the LORD fills the whole earth Numbers 14:19-21

But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. Matthew 5:44-45


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Everyone knows about those verses but people act as if Jesus was only about peace when he wasn't. That was my point.
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Right, but you took some of those verses out of context and didn't really apply any sort of critical exegesis in your analysis. Taken as a whole (and in context i might add) the story of Jesus, as told by the bible, IS about peace and redemption. This is not really too surprising given the way the bible was put together.
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I didnt take them out of context. I displayed the full verse according to bible gateway. I made sure to check the verses I got with christian sites before bringing them up. Its pretty hard to take those quotes out of context when theyre fairly direct.

Its mostly about peace and redemption. Its also about the things ive listed. If I were to tell you three nice things, and one horrible thing would you consider me to be a good person?

Love children, Love women, Love people. If the woman is adulterous kill her and her children, unless she asks me for forgiveness, then I guess we can let it go.

Even with the loophole in that last part it goes against nearly every form of morality that exists.

If you cherry pick the bible, or take only the aspects of it that you like you can very well make the term christian a meaningless word(Im talking about christians who cherry pick the bible and pretend its all roses and pink bunnies dancing, or the people who defend it in a similar way). So in order for accuracy's sake Jesus was not as nice as people made him out to be, and said many immoral things, despite the fact that he said mostly nice things.
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"Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5 NLT)

All slaves should show full respect for their masters so they will not bring shame on the name of God and his teaching. 2 If the masters are believers, that is no excuse for being disrespectful. Those slaves should work all the harder because their efforts are helping other believers[a] who are well loved.

The servant will be severely punished, for though he knew his duty, he refused to do it. "But people who are not aware that they are doing wrong will be punished only lightly. Much is required from those to whom much is given, and much more is required from those to whom much more is given." (Luke 12:47-48 NLT)
Timothy 6:1-2 (New Living Translation)"

...Is this the same Bible that presumably talks about Moses? You know, the guy who led many people OUT of slavery from the Egyptians, parting the Red Sea in the process? I just find this hard to believe, because that would make the fundies who take the Bible wholesale massive hypocrites. (Or at least more than they already are.)
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Pokemans > some other thing that you ass ram
I don't ass ram anything so it's greater than nothing.

Jak
Thursday Aug 18 2011, 07:18 PM
I'm not posting in this thread. This seems ass ram a scam.
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And you expect all these passages to be verbatim re-tellings of Jesus' sermons? Lol. They were written down decades after his death, and by human men who clearly interpreted them to fit their own means.

And ugh @ the NLT. New American Standard is the only reliable translation of that thing. Everything else is heavily weighted towards the editors' views.

Plus, its not a literal text either (which is what the majority of Christians these days, and most religious people in general don't understand), it is an allegorical text used to focus on a common idea (as in the NT's case; universal compassion), that uses parables to explain the philosophical ideas to the lay person. Though, compared to other religions, it definitely isn't as nearly sophisticated when it comes to philosophy.[cleft=darkslategray][/cleft][cright=black][/cright][pleft=white][/pleft][dl=black][/dl]
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nameless - I dont think moses led the slaves from egypt in opposition to the concept of slavery, but for some other reason.

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And you expect all these passages to be verbatim re-tellings of Jesus' sermons? Lol. They were written down decades after his death, and by human men who clearly interpreted them to fit their own means.


No. I dont accept the bible as accurate in any fashion. Its teachings are convoluted and irrational. Its historically inaccurate and scientifically laughable. However, the bible is the source of christianity regardless of all of that. The ideas in the bible are supposed to be what connects christians, so if the ideas are slanted and inaccurate, how can anyone claim to know anything about real christianity if its single source is inaccurate even for its own purposes?

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And ugh @ the NLT. New American Standard is the only reliable translation of that thing. Everything else is heavily weighted towards the editors' views.


Wasnt the original the same way?

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And you expect all these passages to be verbatim re-tellings of Jesus' sermons? Lol. They were written down decades after his death, and by human men who clearly interpreted them to fit their own means.


Why is one bible any better than the other?

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Plus, its not a literal text either (which is what the majority of Christians these days, and most religious people in general don't understand), it is an allegorical text used to focus on a common idea (as in the NT's case; universal compassion), that uses parables to explain the philosophical ideas to the lay person. Though, compared to other religions, it definitely isn't as nearly sophisticated when it comes to philosophy.[cleft=darkslategray][/cleft][cright=black][/cright][pleft=white][/pleft][dl=black][/dl]


So the bible at one time is accepted as literal fact, and all of a sudden, without justification its not?
i cant see that as anything but a cop out. What if god is a metaphor? What if jesus was? It cant be called a philosophy, the structure isnt there, with god and jesus being metaphorical, how can it be a religion? If its not either, what good is it? Like i said earlier, when you start to get subjective about a book that at one time was considered absolute fact about the world we live in the entire thing becomes meaningless.

We just need to stop pretending religion has any place in a modern civilized society (outside of understanding history perhaps). Every time we try to make exceptions for it we just show how meaningless it is to keep around. Its like having a single word mean something different every couple years. When plato made his allegory of the cave, he made certain people knew it was an allegory. If the bible is an allegory, then why do people consider it a religion?
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