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Why do pundits think so much in absolutes?; Especially "X is a Y killer" articles
Topic Started: Tuesday Sep 21 2010, 07:36 PM (458 Views)
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You know what I'm talking about. People proclaiming the death of desktops, iPad killers, future tech interfaces depending on multi-touch or motion capture (Kinect) utterly displacing keyboards/mice/gamepads/etc., the 3DS being doomed before release because it doesn't rely entirely on some Apple-esque App Store, cloud computing taking over EVERYTHING at the expense of local apps/programs, crap like that. Something out there has to win, inevitably at the complete annihilation of another.

I've noticed this for a while now, but I'm glad at least one other person does too, as he so eloquently put it in a comment to the first article:

"Binary EITHER/OR thinking is the enemy of clear thought."

Some people own multiple computers, or prefer different tools for different tasks (especially with input devices), or at least realize that a given device isn't supposed to appeal to them and that the group that it does appeal to has it work very well for them.

Not in the world of journalism, though. It's all about what's hip at the moment, probably because of something a certain bitten fruit corporation did. If it doesn't match up, it must DIE!

I wonder if it's worth the trouble of starting my own blog to make some counterpoints that everyone can see front and center, not buried in the comments section.
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the vast majority of the human race participates in the unnecessary boolean labeling of everything they perceive, not just the journalists.
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You have a point, though I just happen to notice it most blatantly with sensational journalist headlines.

(Also, am I exceeding your yearly quota of exposing you to the word "pundit" a bit TOO much?)
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Binary EITHER/OR thinking is the enemy of clear thought.
Because self-contradictory statements are eloquent?
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NamelessFragger
Tuesday Sep 21 2010, 07:45 PM
You have a point, though I just happen to notice it most blatantly with sensational journalist headlines.

(Also, am I exceeding your yearly quota of exposing you to the word "pundit" a bit TOO much?)
yes. see to it that it doesn't happen again
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if they get people to argue over what they say more people will visit their site to read something absurd or controversial, which means more ad money.

people have been doing things like this for a long time.
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The iPad will kill the Xbox720
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Wednesday Sep 22 2010, 12:59 PM
The iPad will kill the Xbox720
the xbox720 (if it is indeed called that, such a stupid name people have adopted based on an imagined naming convention) will kill itself simply by virtue of the fact that it insinuates that Microsoft is just going in circles.
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People who use "Xbox 720" remind me of people who use "Dreamcast 2" to describe a potential SEGA console.
Denver Broncos: defending champs, 8-6, next game 12/25 @ Kansas City Chiefs
Colorado Rockies: 75-87, missed playoffs
Colorado Avalanche: 11-18-1, next game 12/20 @ Minnesota Wild
Denver Nuggets: 12-16, next game 12/20 @ Los Angeles Clippers
Colorado Mammoth: first game 12/30 @ Buffalo Bandits
Denver Outlaws: defending champs, first game 4/22 @ Charlotte Hounds
Colorado State Rams football: 7-5, next game Idaho Bowl 12/22 vs Idaho Vandals
Colorado State Rams basketball: 8-4, next game 12/22 vs Long Beach State 49ers
Winnipeg Blue Bombers: 11-7, lost West Division Semifinal
Denver Pioneers Lacrosse: first game 1/24 vs Johns Hopkins Blue Jays
#2 Denver Pioneers Hockey: 12-3-3, next game 12/30 @ Providence College Friars
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or Wii 2
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I refuse to call it the Xbox 3 and there's nothing else to call it
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Well, at least Nintendo has SOME carryover in their naming conventions.

Nintendo Entertainment System -> Super Nintendo Entertainment System -> Nintendo 64

Game Boy -> Game Boy Color -> Game Boy Advance

Nintendo DS -> Nintendo 3DS

But SEGA?
SG-1000 -> Master System -> Genesis -> SEGA CD -> SEGA 32X -> Saturn -> Dreamcast

No carry over at all.
Denver Broncos: defending champs, 8-6, next game 12/25 @ Kansas City Chiefs
Colorado Rockies: 75-87, missed playoffs
Colorado Avalanche: 11-18-1, next game 12/20 @ Minnesota Wild
Denver Nuggets: 12-16, next game 12/20 @ Los Angeles Clippers
Colorado Mammoth: first game 12/30 @ Buffalo Bandits
Denver Outlaws: defending champs, first game 4/22 @ Charlotte Hounds
Colorado State Rams football: 7-5, next game Idaho Bowl 12/22 vs Idaho Vandals
Colorado State Rams basketball: 8-4, next game 12/22 vs Long Beach State 49ers
Winnipeg Blue Bombers: 11-7, lost West Division Semifinal
Denver Pioneers Lacrosse: first game 1/24 vs Johns Hopkins Blue Jays
#2 Denver Pioneers Hockey: 12-3-3, next game 12/30 @ Providence College Friars
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Wednesday Sep 22 2010, 08:32 PM
I refuse to call it the Xbox 3 and there's nothing else to call it
"Microsoft's next console"
"The next Xbox"

Also, Xbox 720 is way stupider than Xbox 3.

Like, way stupider.
Denver Broncos: defending champs, 8-6, next game 12/25 @ Kansas City Chiefs
Colorado Rockies: 75-87, missed playoffs
Colorado Avalanche: 11-18-1, next game 12/20 @ Minnesota Wild
Denver Nuggets: 12-16, next game 12/20 @ Los Angeles Clippers
Colorado Mammoth: first game 12/30 @ Buffalo Bandits
Denver Outlaws: defending champs, first game 4/22 @ Charlotte Hounds
Colorado State Rams football: 7-5, next game Idaho Bowl 12/22 vs Idaho Vandals
Colorado State Rams basketball: 8-4, next game 12/22 vs Long Beach State 49ers
Winnipeg Blue Bombers: 11-7, lost West Division Semifinal
Denver Pioneers Lacrosse: first game 1/24 vs Johns Hopkins Blue Jays
#2 Denver Pioneers Hockey: 12-3-3, next game 12/30 @ Providence College Friars
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I'm just gonna take that post as a troll post and walk away Jason...I'm just gonna walk away
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Yellow journalism works because the intended audience has little to no knowledge on whatever subject and the people selling the news have no scruples. You mentioned this happing in tech media but I've noticed other places as well. CNN, for instance, will often feature anchors waxing idiotic on some subject and interviews with people who maintain the same lack of knowledge. There is almost no ethical journalism anymore, instead we get a lot of rhetoric and poorly researched news bits to the tune of flashy headlines that are more often than not, misleading. The irony of this paragraph is that I haven't bothered to support my points with factual information.


Also, The Xbox naming convention is all about orders of magnitude It goes:
Xbox> Xbox 360> Xbox^2

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People won't read a headline that says, "New technology may or may not change the future for some other technology that is relevant"
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We're a nation driven by it's emotions rather than intellect. Because of this, you can't really get people to read an article unless it has the clear cut x vs y 'there can be only one' mentality. People would be bored with an article about an emerging tech and it's pros/cons and how it compares to current tech. It needs to be a holy balls this new tech is gonna rape the old shits mother in the face in order for people to remain interested.

I swear the majority of the people in this country are into BDSM, and are only satisfied when they are terrified of everything around them and the world is out to get them.

Oh noes the Islams are out to get us. I'm pretty sure if over 1 billion people hated us that much, shit would be a lot worse.
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American culture cripples the mind.
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Thursday Sep 23 2010, 03:17 PM
American culture cripples the mind.
This is the sort of thing I would expect a rich, snooty Frenchman to say.
Denver Broncos: defending champs, 8-6, next game 12/25 @ Kansas City Chiefs
Colorado Rockies: 75-87, missed playoffs
Colorado Avalanche: 11-18-1, next game 12/20 @ Minnesota Wild
Denver Nuggets: 12-16, next game 12/20 @ Los Angeles Clippers
Colorado Mammoth: first game 12/30 @ Buffalo Bandits
Denver Outlaws: defending champs, first game 4/22 @ Charlotte Hounds
Colorado State Rams football: 7-5, next game Idaho Bowl 12/22 vs Idaho Vandals
Colorado State Rams basketball: 8-4, next game 12/22 vs Long Beach State 49ers
Winnipeg Blue Bombers: 11-7, lost West Division Semifinal
Denver Pioneers Lacrosse: first game 1/24 vs Johns Hopkins Blue Jays
#2 Denver Pioneers Hockey: 12-3-3, next game 12/30 @ Providence College Friars
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American culture is a mix of pretty much every culture on the planet, except a little fatter.
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