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Athidoc
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EDIT: Cenedil posted when I did, so I didn't see his post. So, Cenedil, I ask that you not insult the White Bull either. We can work this out without resorting to immaturity.

Original post:

Please stop insulting Cenedil, it was me who told him to attack Yronwood, assuming that Chugman and I could help defend his capital. I realize that it could seem like I'm trying to change the rules for his benefit, and I understand why you may be angry. So let's just forget all that for a second.

What do we do when there is a problem with a rule? We change it. That is what we did with the original besieging rules, and that is what I believe we need to do now.

So, just answer this one question. Of these two rules, which seems the most logically sound when applied to the problem they were meant to prevent?

a) Ban all tributed troops from helping an ally under siege, regardless of who purchased them. Does it fix the problem? Yes. However, it also creates another problem, that of an extremely overpowered siege system that completely isolates a player from his allies, thus nullifying one of the main reasons to join an alliance in the first place.

b) Ban all troops purchased by an ally with the besieged player's money. Does it fix the problem? Yes, the player cannot get troops of his own without paying double. If he gives his money to an ally, then he cannot use the troops they buy for him.

If b seems more reasonable then a, then it makes sense that a must be replaced. This is the same process we have gone by previously, seeing a problem when it arises and correcting it. It often takes a situation such as this to recognize the problem, and it creates a quagmire when fixing the rule may harm one or more players.

But realize that accepting the rule change will not mean you are stuck in this fight. What I want is a compromise, but it requires that you recognize the problem and that we agree on a solution.




That said, let's just put this on hold and see how the negotiations play out. If they end up in a treaty of some sort then this battle, and thus, this problem will not matter anyway. If the negotiations fail, we can return and attempt to work out a solution.

Edited by Athidoc, Oct 4 2008, 07:15 AM.
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