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Why are you all still watching? Seriously.; discussions
Topic Started: Jan 5 2010, 10:48 PM (1,635 Views)
andyfeltrad
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There was so much negativity about today's episode. I knew people were going to hate it, but it like goes beyond that now. Like people saying, "I'd rather have no Nuke than this crap they're giving us."

I mean, so seriously. Why are some people still watching? I don't get it.

I didn't love the episode but I didn't hate it either. In fact, the last scene broke my heart into a trillion pieces. And I'm the first to say that a lot of the angst we're getting right now is a bit contrived. But a lot of crap on soaps are contrived. ANYWAY.

Why are YOU all still watching? I want to really know. Maybe to shed some light as to why people are still watching a show that obviously doesn't bring them happiness anymore. What does being bitter towards the very end do for you? Honestly. I don't get it. If you hate it THAT MUCH, just stop watching.

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I replied to your post on vh that although I was severely underwhelmed there were a few things that I liked about the episode:
Noah's back--yay!
Luke stood up for himself a teensy teensy bit
Noah acknowledged that a short stint in rehab wasn't going to fix much
That last scene indeed broke my heart to pieces too.

But to answer our question I'm still watching because somewhere in my heart I have hope that the writers can pull it out because honestly they have in the past. This storyline started out so promising and this was by far my favorite storyline with these two. And Van and Jake have captured my heart so I'm watching because I think they are phenomenal.

While yes today's episode disappointed me but maybe the next one will be better and I have faith that it will get better. I try not to complain all the time and find those kernels of goodness in every episode, every scene, every storyline and I found some today.

I love my Luke and Noah and Van and Jake. No matter how disappointed I may be with an episode I can find goodness in any episode and no amount OOC-ness or disjointed scenes can take m love from them.

I'm over the bitterness too. I know how you feel
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Ok. I'm going to C&P what I wrote over at the JS site, and then say more things after.
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Welllllll........

I don't know. I like angst as much as the next person, but what I'd be really ok with NOT seeing every episode is Noah pulling away from Luke whenever he tries to kiss him. We get it writers. Noah's not in the mood for some lovin'. You don't need to remind us every. single. time.

And that whole thing with Luke and the film, holy crap. SERIOUSLY? What the hell? I understand that Luke was trying to help, I really do, and I love him for it, but that was the dumbest thing he's done in a while. It was like, "Oh you know that film you've been working SO HARD on? Yeah, I finished it. And submitted it. And accepted the award cause EVERYONE loved it. You should have been there!" *FACEPALM*

I want to shake (re: slap) both guys upside the heads and say STOP BEING STUPID PLEASE. I'm getting tired of it.

Acting wise though, both Jake and Van were awesome. That last scene of Noah trying to put the cd in the laptop?
Yeah. Didn't like those parts. And I know soaps are a big pile of contrived drama, but this was just so blatantly contrived that I didn't know what to do with myself.

But those were the only parts I didn't like. Everything else I could stand. Like you, I didn't love the episode, but I didn't hate it either, like I know a lot of folks do.

And I still watch cause I still love the couple and what they represent: two young guys in love. They're still in there somewhere, and I will wait and ride out all of the drama until those guys come back. :D

Oh. And I love Jake and Van. And they're the main reason why I still watch. Obviously. :P
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I know! I saw the thread you're talking about and the comment about rather having no Nuke than bad writing just floored me. I don't get it either. I guess people just love to bitch.

I didn't think any of the characters got a lot of screen time today...not just Luke and Noah. I actually thought it was pretty well balanced considering all of the people that were on. I'm always going to want to see more of the boys regardless.

I decided that when the show got canceled I wasn't going to sit around and bitch about things. I want to ENJOY these last 9 months of Luke and Noah (Van and Jake) because sadly this is it. And after Sept all we'll have is fan fiction.

I thought the boys did a good job with what they were given. I still can understand Noah's anger (although I wish it wasn't directed at Luke). Jake has been rocking the anger/frustration and Van does the hurt oh so well.

I just love these two and will watch them do anything! :cloud9
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Yaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyy. Three more people I can add on the list of not leaving this show bitter when it ends. :P
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andyfeltrad
Jan 5 2010, 11:19 PM
Yaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyy. Three more people I can add on the list of not leaving this show bitter when it ends. :P
Definitely put me on the list! :D
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Jan 5 2010, 11:21 PM
andyfeltrad
Jan 5 2010, 11:19 PM
Yaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyy. Three more people I can add on the list of not leaving this show bitter when it ends. :P
Definitely put me on the list! :D
Meeeeeeeee! :D
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Yes add me to that. When I love a character I love them and I FADORE Luke and Noah and I'm going to stick with them. Honestly I feel like if you're that disallusioned with the show either stop watching or go back to episodes that made you giggle and squee and swoon and fall back in love with them. So no bitterness. Slight frustration sure...but I can get over that.
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Jan 5 2010, 11:24 PM
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Jan 5 2010, 11:21 PM
andyfeltrad
Jan 5 2010, 11:19 PM
Yaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyy. Three more people I can add on the list of not leaving this show bitter when it ends. :P
Definitely put me on the list! :D
Meeeeeeeee! :D
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I honestly think, when the show is over and you go back and watch the episodes all over again without the trepidation of logging onto sites and seeing what people are saying, you enjoy the show SO. MUCH. BETTER. Without all the added background noise of people saying how much it sucked.

Being in a fandom sometimes really ruins a show for you unfortunately.
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WORD. Because I'd watch an episode and love it and on the message boards people will hate it and I'm all *err..what?*
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I don't post here too much but I just wanted to chime in and say I agree. :) There was one comment on youtube where someone said they'd be glad when September came because then they wouldn't 'be burdened with this show anymore.' Excuse you, no on is forcing YOU to watch, so please move along if it's making you flip your shit on the internet.

Did I think today's episode was great? No. Did I think it was OMG THE WORST BIT OF TV I'VE EVER SEEN? Not at all. I would have loved to see something more, and I agree with others about the low points, but as usual I thought Van and Jake did great with what they had (especially the last couch scene omg) And just because we have one disappointing episode doesn't mean that every episode after this is going to suck balls. I've never been in the fandom to watch the show in real time when the boys are having major angst. I've always watched major angst knowing that, ya know, they're gonna get over it and have sex. :P So I don't know if once the boys get back on track (cuz they will, obviously), people will forget being totally angry over this one episode, or they'll just always hate this bit of the storyline? I don't know. I can't even imagine what fandom must have been like during the election/Brian storyline, everyone was probably :postal .

Van and Jake made me fall in love with Luke and Noah, and as long as they keep playing them I will keep watching, simple as that. And we know they will work things out eventually. There's always a light at the end of the tunnel. :D
Edited by AOleander, Jan 6 2010, 12:01 AM.
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Jan 6 2010, 12:00 AM
I can't even imagine what fandom must have been like during the election/Brian storyline, everyone was probably :postal .
OMG.

Be glad you weren't around the fandom then. It was an epic wank war of EPICNESS. I still have scars. :/
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Jan 6 2010, 12:10 AM
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Jan 6 2010, 12:00 AM
I can't even imagine what fandom must have been like during the election/Brian storyline, everyone was probably :postal .
OMG.

Be glad you weren't around the fandom then. It was an epic wank war of EPICNESS. I still have scars. :/
And she's not exaggerating either. :headbang
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It's funny. Cause in hindsight, the Ameera storyline brought in a TON a viewers. Like, after their strip-tease and their third and forth kiss. And during the kissing ban. Cause by the time people watched it on YouTube and they were a couple of months behind, it wasn't as bad watching it all at once.
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Jan 6 2010, 12:19 AM
andyfeltrad
Jan 6 2010, 12:10 AM
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I can't even imagine what fandom must have been like during the election/Brian storyline, everyone was probably :postal .
OMG.

Be glad you weren't around the fandom then. It was an epic wank war of EPICNESS. I still have scars. :/
And she's not exaggerating either. :headbang
Ugh, like I said, I can only imagine.

I admire you for pulling through. Battle scars are sexy. :D
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Jan 5 2010, 11:19 PM
Yaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyy. Three more people I can add on the list of not leaving this show bitter when it ends. :P
I know that I'm new and all but add me to the list too.
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Jan 6 2010, 12:25 AM
andyfeltrad
Jan 5 2010, 11:19 PM
Yaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyy. Three more people I can add on the list of not leaving this show bitter when it ends. :P
I know that I'm new and all but add me to the list too.
OH HAI NEWBIE! :hi :P
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Maybe I am easily entertained but I enjoyed today's episode. I admit, the first scene was kind of "Huh, did I miss like half a scene?" but I totally enjoyed the angst and especially Jake's acting today/yesterday.

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It's maybe off topic
It remind of when I was a new fan after watching the episode with mistletoe gate I was so mad and I felt stupid to watch the show :
I was mad that the show didn't wanted to give what I wanted(just a kiss) so I swore that I would stop to watch the show but after re-watching this episode it was too late Luke and Noah stole my heart lol Luke's declaration of love was so touching and it really moved me a lot
Since then I'm still here :P
I have almost gave up with after Luke kissed Brian :vomit (I'm still tying to bleach my brain lol ) I was so done with the show (and with Luke attitude) but when I saw the sneak peek of the 12 January it was too late to give up I couldn't give on my boys (I was spoiler free back then :P )
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Maybe I am easily entertained but I enjoyed today's episode. I admit, the first scene was kind of "Huh, did I miss like half a scene?" but I totally enjoyed the angst and especially Jake's acting today/yesterday.

Jake was great
Go Jake :postal :postal :postal :postal :postal :postal :postal :postal :party :party
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OH. AND ANOTHER THING. :D

Why the HELL would the writers have Noah say that everything else comes secondary to getting his sight back, then have Luke reply "including me?", only to NOT HAVE NOAH ANSWER?!?!!?!

I mean....wasn't that kinda important???!!!!

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Jan 6 2010, 12:39 AM
OH. AND ANOTHER THING. :D

Why the HELL would the writers have Noah say that everything else comes secondary to getting his sight back, then have Luke reply "including me?", only to NOT HAVE NOAH ANSWER?!?!!?!

I mean....wasn't that kinda important???!!!!

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I know :wtf :/
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bbwqueen1004
Jan 6 2010, 12:39 AM
OH. AND ANOTHER THING. :D

Why the HELL would the writers have Noah say that everything else comes secondary to getting his sight back, then have Luke reply "including me?", only to NOT HAVE NOAH ANSWER?!?!!?!

I mean....wasn't that kinda important???!!!!

/rant
I think they just want to get whatever's going on how done, with as much pointless angst as possible. LOL
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Jan 6 2010, 12:39 AM
OH. AND ANOTHER THING. :D

Why the HELL would the writers have Noah say that everything else comes secondary to getting his sight back, then have Luke reply "including me?", only to NOT HAVE NOAH ANSWER?!?!!?!

I mean....wasn't that kinda important???!!!!

/rant
Yeah, I was wondering about that too.

I also thought an answer would have been important. But I guess, the show didn't. :(
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