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| bbwqueen1004 | Jan 1 2010, 04:18 AM Post #1 |
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Week of January 4-8 Tuesday, January 5th, Luke has news for Noah. SOD Insider: On Tuesday, January 5, Noah's reluctant to reciprocate Luke's romantic feelings Soap Central Week of 1/4: Noah pulls away when Luke attempts to become affectionate From TV Guide (Tuesday Jan. 5th): "Noah isn't as happy as Luke expected him to be with the news he finished his film" Coming Soon Soaptown USA (Posted 12/31) Luke does what he can to keep Reid in town. Week of 1/4 Soap Opera Source Noah tells Luke and Lily his stay with them will be short, as he's found a doctor in California who has had remarkable results with a numerous patients. Noah's behavior towards Luke is less than desirable. ATWT Promo: Week of 1/4/10 Coming Soon Down the road: Hunter and Maddie have a surprise for Noah Luke is hurt as Noah continues to blame him for his blindness As Noah drifts emotionally away from Luke, Luke is more determined than ever to restore Noah's sight Luke's darker side comes to fore as he resorts to drastic measures to help Noah Thanks to Luke's efforts, Noah can see again, but the price proves costly Luke's latest stunt has him at odds with Noah SOW 2010 Preview ![]() SOD 2010 Preview ![]() SID 2010 Preview: ![]() **Eric Stevens is joining ATWT as Dr. Reid Oliver on January 19. |
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| DancingElf88 | Jan 1 2010, 09:14 AM Post #2 |
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Oooh...! More drama! More drama! More drama! Oh NutMeg...liking you more and more. Thanks for posting |
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| cyn | Jan 1 2010, 09:34 AM Post #3 |
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Oh, I like drama, so I'm looking forward to this all. But I think I will cry so hard the coming episodes.... |
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| bbwqueen1004 | Jan 1 2010, 07:16 PM Post #4 |
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| Honey | Jan 1 2010, 10:23 PM Post #5 |
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Er...I'm kinda not looking forward to this. I'm glad Jake and Van--Jake especially--have this chance to expand their acting skills, and that Jake's finally getting something to do, period. But I think the whole premise of this "Noah is angry at/resents Luke" storyline is flawed, because the accident was Noah's own stupid fault for not putting the fireworks down when he noticed something wrong, and honestly Noah's resentment of/frustration with Luke feels very pastede on yey instead of growing naturally out of his circumstances. To my mind, it's like he decided he was going to be mad at Luke, no matter whose fault it was, what Luke does, or how mean he acts because of his determination to blame everything on Luke.And yeah, I do think that, at times, Noah has been deliberately mean, not just lashing out because of frustration, i.e. the "private concert" and snapping at Lily/trying to leave when Luke showed up at the lake. And I'm not thrilled with that. When I come away from a Noah episode thinking "Geez, what a douchebag" instead of "Poor guy, I understand why he's so frustrated", something is wrong. Now, if that's the point, and this leads to something involving Noah reassessing how he handles it when things go south, then bring it on. But if this is going to be Noah crapping all over Luke until their reunion and no one calls him on it, I'm going to be seriously irritated, because that's no better than what Kevin did to Luke when Luke came out. TL;DR: More , less , plzkthx.
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| SunshineKat | Jan 1 2010, 11:57 PM Post #6 |
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Um...are you serious? You're comparing Noah - who is angry about being blind and lashing out at Luke (and feeling pretty crappy about it if his confustion is any inidcation) to the guy that called Luke a faggot and treated him like he was a piece of shit. Really? So nothing that Noah has done BEFORE - none of that shit counts AT ALL? He is an amazing person who has and does pretty much love Luke like crazy but he is human. He gets to be mad. He gets to lash out. Sorry, he does. Noah didn't decide to get angry at anyone for no reason. I'm sick to death of EVERYONE looking over the fact that it wasn't JUST Noah having that fight or that Luke WAS distracting him and that he HAD made him upset. All those things factored into what happened so in a way, yeah, Luke is at fault. So is Noah. So is Damian. So is Mason. Is it right that Noah blames Luke? Not entirely, no. But I don't think he is mad JUST about the blindness. I think there are more issues under all that. Do I think Luke should put his foot down? Yes. I think Noah needs to hear from Luke that he's hurting him. Because I am sorry, I DO NOT think Noah is purposely hurting anyone. He is pissed off. He doesn't know how to handle this blindness. And if you can tell me the proper way he should - because I don't think there is any proper way - then maybe I can begin to see that point. Personally, I'm more then happy that Noah is getting to express being angry. And I hope Luke in turn gets to do the same. Sorry if this comes off wrong but it's how I feel. |
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| Honey | Jan 2 2010, 01:06 AM Post #7 |
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Yes, but I should've explained this further. I was being called away as I was writing; sorry. What I mean is that in both situations Luke has "done" something that upsets Kevin/Noah ("done" is in quotes since obviously Luke can't help being gay, nor was he the direct cause of Noah's accident), and they both react in a, I feel, disquietingly similar way: one in which Luke becomes their punching bag no matter what he does to try and make things better, and regardless of whether or not he deserves to be that punching bag. Let's leave out the bigger issue of homophobia because we can all agree that doesn't apply to Noah's reaction. What we don't agree on is whether or not Noah is being deliberate in hurting Luke. Personally, I feel that sometimes he is. Not all the time, hence why I said "at times". He does have the right to be frustrated and scared and yes, even angry. But I don't think he has the cause to be as angry as he is. And I don't think his anger excuses the actions that I put as examples. The explosive reaction to banging into the coffee table and accidentally breaking the candy dish? I totally give Noah that. Disappearing behind his ear plugs and ignoring Luke after that? That I think was just being mean. All this is secondary anyway, because my "no better" comment was referring to the hypothetical future of the sl: "But if this is going to be Noah crapping all over Luke until their reunion and no one calls him on it". Because that IS was happened with Kevin: no one (aside from a failed attempt on Luke's part**) called Kevin out on his nastiness until he almost drowned. That sl ended quicker of course, but it is still a parallel in my opinion. Also, I understand you being tired of fans getting on Noah's case, because I know the amount of shit Noah catches in general, but I have NEVER been a Noah detractor until this storyline, and I still do not hate him or think he's a bad person or shouldn't be with Luke. A few months ago I read someone saying that Noah's favorite thing to do is blame and judge Luke and I was angry, because that is not true. But I do think that some of the things he does that hurt Luke are deliberate, and I do think he's being written--or at least Jake is playing him--like he's decided that he should be mad at Luke, and nothing that Luke says or does will stop that. And I'm not looking forward to what seems like a storyline of Noah continuing along that vein, unless it pays off with self-assessment. Because I think there IS a pattern to Noah's handling of bad situations--trying to walk away from or ignore them without settling them--that I think stems from his life with the Colonel. I want to see Noah address that, not just go through this whole ordeal without learning from it. (I feel the same about Luke, except HIS pattern is to self-destruct, i.e. the drinking.) If you disagree, that's perfectly fine. I didn't mean to offend; I apologize for upsetting you. *EDIT: Lol, forgot about Jade. *desk* Ok, how about this...if it's going to happen with Noah, I'd want to see a successful calling out. Edited by Honey, Jan 2 2010, 03:18 PM.
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| cord08 | Jan 2 2010, 01:34 AM Post #8 |
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I don't believe I have ever replied to a spoiler thread, and I honestly try to avoid them because they can sometimes be a rather incorrect description of what is actually presented on-screen. However, since there is a partial scene to base a few thoughts on, I decided to chime in. Like most, (if not all) the story lines on this show, Luke and Noah's story has flaws. In my opinion, some of the confusion over Noah's blame and anger can actually be traced back to before the accident. The pacing of the episodes leading up to and of Noah's accident is at the center of problem because he went from questioning his trust in Luke ("Did you turn in Mason?"), to forgiving Luke, right back to basically blaming him (through Damian) for Mason's termination in such a short period of time. This back and forth then seemed to become irrelevant right after Noah woke up and had no apparent residual anger towards Luke ("...making up will be more fun..."). But, then the blame came back right after he found out he was blind. Thus, it could be argued that the lack of consistent writing is making this story line appear to be going around in a circle of sometimes confusing, maybe contrived angst. That being said, besides being a vehicle for more drama, Noah's behavior (at least for me) does not seem all that unbelievable. His world has literally gone black and there is really nothing that can distract him from this reality. Therefore, his new limitations are most likely on his mind 24/7. When this happens, some people can become fixated and desperate to remedy the situation, especially if they feel as though they have lost much control over their lives. They search for any way they can to regain a sense of control. This is the stage Noah appears to be in. He seems to have entered a state of some fixated desperation, and that is most likely why he says regaining his sight is his priority. And when people become desperate, striving for a sense of normal, it can sometimes be hard for them to seriously focus on any other aspect of their life (i.e. relationships). And just one more thing to remember about Noah's blame and anger: these type of emotions often stem from a rather irrational place. So besides questionable writing, this is another reason why this angle of the story may not carry much rationality. Just my two cents... |
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| SunshineKat | Jan 2 2010, 02:22 AM Post #9 |
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Here's my problem: one in which Luke becomes their punching bag no matter what he does to try and make things better, and regardless of whether or not he deserves to be that punching bag. And Noah has never been Luke's punching bag? When the election went bad and Noah tried to explain, Luke didn't berate and belittle him? When Luke was drinking, Noah didn't have to stand around and take being compared to his father, being called a coward? Whenever Luke was angry/upset, Noah didn't have to take Luke throwing his mistakes in his face? I'm sorry but Noah had NEVER treated Luke that way until now. At least not that I've seen. If you could give me an example then I'll happily reassess. And if this isn't an understandable reason to lash out at Luke then I don't know what is. It seems unfair that Luke can do and say anything he wants - no matter how hurtful or mean in the heat of the moment and it's okay, cause it's Luke (And believe me, I love him for being who is. I understand him). But Noah cannot get angry, cannot have a bad reaction without it somehow being this horrible thing? How is he supposed to become a complete character if HE doesn't get to make mistakes or if he doesn't get to have feelings? I think we're going to have agree to disagree because the Noah you seem to see isn't the one I do. Thanks for the response. ![]() |
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| Loralee | Jan 2 2010, 12:16 PM Post #10 |
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I think Noah treated Luke this way after his dad died. He blamed Luke for his dad's death even though Luke was not to blame at all for what happened. He pushed him away when all Luke wanted to do was support him. I know Luke was to blame during the election but he also went to Noah right after he talked with his parents and said he wanted to make things right and he couldn't do it without his help but Noah pushed him away. I am not taking sides here. I love them both and they both have made mistakes. I don't blame Noah for being upset. His whole world has been turned upside down. I just hate having to see Luke be the one that has to beg for forgiveness again for something I don't think is entirely his fault. I guess it wouldn't be much of a soap story if they both saw things the same. I hope they will end up after all this stronger than ever and happy. |
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| cookienuke | Jan 2 2010, 01:43 PM Post #11 |
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Maybe it's just me but this fandom will probably never be happy with how Noah treat Luke Since the A*****mess a lot of fans still didn't forgive him and probably never will (he didn't even cheated on him with her ) since this story a lot of fans want Luke to break up with Noah and make him jealous .They want to see him beg Luke to come back in his life and and see Noah in knees for Luke (because Luke is awesome guy,perfect an angel etc.................... ) even being blind is even a not a problem . That's probably the only way to redeem Noah in their eyes because Noah Because Noah only purpose is being Luke's boyfriend and good one (being angry at your boyfriend for good reason or not is certainly not an option )
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| bluejeanbaby | Jan 2 2010, 02:14 PM Post #12 |
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Anyway.... Back to those spoilers. Boys are on Tuesday. ![]() Edited by bluejeanbaby, Jan 2 2010, 02:15 PM.
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| SunshineKat | Jan 2 2010, 03:15 PM Post #13 |
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Oh! You know I don't think I saw it that way but I totally see how it can be similar. I always thought that Noah pushing Luke away was more he needed time to process his Dad dying and I thought that he really didn't want to say anything he couldn't take back. This is different but I get why others see it the same. Though I think this time the tone is a lot angrier. Thanks for that. I still don't think Noah is treating Luke anywhere near the abuse he withstood with Kevin but I get the pushing away pattern. ![]() And, like Ailene said: Boys on Tuesday!
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| bbwqueen1004 | Jan 2 2010, 03:48 PM Post #14 |
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YUP. Boys are on Tuesday. Let's rejoice in that, yes? And pray that Noah isn't gone after that until Dr. Reid makes his appearance on Jan. 19th. SOC spoiler update: This week: Luke is delighted when Noah returns home from the rehab clinic. Noah is quick to tell Luke that he won't be staying long. Noah plans to fly out to California where there is a doctor he believes can restore his sight. Noah tells Luke nothing matters more than his seeing again. Luke fears for he and Noah's future. Noah is stunned when Luke tells him that he finished his movie… and it won an award. Noah accuses Luke of trying to run his life. Noah rejects Luke's romantic overtures. Luke is upset by Noah's cool treatment towards him. Coming Soon: Hunter and Maddie have a surprise for Noah. Luke is hurt as Noah continues to blame him for his blindness. As Noah drifts emotionally away from Luke, Luke is more determined than ever to restore Noah's sight. Luke does all he can to get Reid to stay in Oakdale. Luke discovers he and Reid have things in common. Luke's darker side comes to fore as he resorts to drastic measures to help Noah. Thanks to Luke's efforts, Noah can see again, but the price proves costly. Luke's latest stunt has him at odds with Noah. |
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| Loralee | Jan 2 2010, 05:18 PM Post #15 |
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Yeah for Nuke on Tuesday even though it looks sad Poor Luke and Noah It has to get better for them sooner are later.Luke finished the film and it got an award This is so funny. I know Luke thought he was doing something good but Noah is not going to feel the same.I wonder if Noah really leaves and goes to Ca. and finds out the doctor can't help him. |
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| andyfeltrad | Jan 2 2010, 11:21 PM Post #16 |
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ACK. ACK. ACCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK. And, oh my, Tuesday is just going to be angst-ville city. |
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| bbwqueen1004 | Jan 3 2010, 02:48 AM Post #17 |
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I don't think this is anything "bad" per say.... Remember when we first read the script between Reid and another character? From what was written, they both shared in common the thought that it was their fault that a loved one of theirs was in a bad situation. So I'm thinking that that's what this spoiler means. Assuming the writers decided to keep that in the script. |
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| twins1729 | Jan 3 2010, 09:07 AM Post #18 |
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Yeah, they stuck to the Mason script pretty well. If this guy is gay (or something.... ) Why do all the gay guys have to revolve around Nuke??It's not like any of the other storylines have random gay guys (or women) popping up. Then again, if they did, people would probably bitch that they weren't involved with Nuke. And I would feel like this:
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| Tirpse | Jan 3 2010, 10:07 AM Post #19 |
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The funny thing is, it was the Ameera storyline that made me fall in love with Noah. Before that I liked Luke more but somewhen during the Ameera storyline Noah stole my heart. I hope I am not the only one who fell for Noah during that storyline. But if I am, I am special. hihi |
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| Loralee | Jan 3 2010, 10:24 AM Post #20 |
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That's funny cause the exact opposite happend for me. I always loved Luke since the first time he came on but when Noah came I liked him more until the Ameera storyline then it changed for me. I still love them both and I still want them to be together always but something about that storyline made me love Luke more. It was a mess of a storyline but Van was amazing in it and so was Jake. |
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| bbwqueen1004 | Jan 4 2010, 02:45 PM Post #21 |
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I'm glad Jake and Van--Jake especially--have this chance to expand their acting skills, and that Jake's finally getting something to do, period. But I think the whole premise of this "Noah is angry at/resents Luke" storyline is flawed, because the accident was Noah's own stupid fault for not putting the fireworks down when he noticed something wrong, and honestly Noah's resentment of/frustration with Luke feels very pastede on yey instead of growing naturally out of his circumstances. To my mind, it's like he decided he was going to be mad at Luke, no matter whose fault it was, what Luke does, or how mean he acts because of his determination to blame everything on Luke.
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) since this story a lot of fans want Luke to break up with Noah and make him jealous .
) even being blind is even a not a problem

Poor Luke and Noah
It has to get better for them sooner are later.
This is so funny. I know Luke thought he was doing something good but Noah is not going to feel the same.




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