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| Feelings towards today's OLTL Kish Scene(s) | |
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| Lis | Dec 31 2009, 02:12 AM Post #1 |
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I have no idea if this is the right area to put this topic, but if it belongs somewhere else -- move it where-ever you'd like. Anyway, after coming home today from a day with friends, I saw the big "New Years" clip of Kish was up ( I subscribe to the channel to see their progress; not following the s/l all that much ). I was actually afaird to watch it but I did. And now I'm just.....annoyed, I guess? I'm not saying anything against Kish because if you like them, that's good for you. But I feel like there's really no where else to post my feelings about this couple anywhere on vh.net without getting hit by people saying I'm turning into one of the negative poster who says, "Well look at those guys..they are doing this while Nuke are not" .. I'm not saying that. I just wanted to know if there's any other fan who watched this scene and didn't feel anything. Though I do give ABC credit for doing this. It's truely a milestone for the Daytime community! (( Btw, watching this -- I'm now in full belief that we WILL see a scene (well..not with candles..Noah doesn't want all those romantic-type stuff, haha) before the show ends. )) Edited by Lis, Dec 31 2009, 02:15 AM.
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| SunshineKat | Dec 31 2009, 02:44 AM Post #2 |
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::raises hand:: I didn't feel a damn thing. I mean, it was a love scene - and I am NOT a fan of ANY kind of soap opera love scene because they tend to be so choreographed - and it was nice. But I didn't really get the passion or whatever from it. So yeah. Got nothing. (Also, I guess we can move this to off topic discussions and leave a link here)
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| AOleander | Dec 31 2009, 02:53 AM Post #3 |
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Yep yep, count me in. I'm familiar with the Kish storyline because one of my best friends watches OLTL, and I attempted to follow it at the beginning but I failed (one soap is enough! haha). But I tuned into today's scenes, knowing all the hoopla that was surrounding it. It was nice, and I think it's AWESOME, completely awesome that daytime is making strides like this. But... it didn't make me all warm and tingly, y'know? I personally didn't feel the passion, but I know some people did and that's great.
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| Lis | Dec 31 2009, 04:14 AM Post #4 |
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Yeah, maybe it had something to do with the whole candle-lit thing but I feel like 10x more passion when Nuke do this --> (haha, yay Moey) than when Kish did that. And I'm not being biased to one couple because I also watch Christian/Oliver s/l (sometimes I do skip around because they have some annoy characters on there's too..lol) and w/e they do I LOVE. But this was just..akward. No passion for me.And yeah, you can put it in the Off-topic section. Thanks
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| dazzling_icer | Dec 31 2009, 04:30 AM Post #5 |
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OMG...I'm so glad this was brought up! Because I've been wanting to talk to someone about it ever since it happened! I'm glad it happened, because it's good for the community and all that...but what's really turned me off about this couple since the beginning is that I see NO passion coming from the actors at all. Like, they are sorta good actors, but I feel like OLTL is very campy, and I can just tell that they are actually actors playing characters, and not the characters themselves. Does that make sense? Like with Luke and Noah...Van and Jake are SO FAR APART from their characters that I hardly see anything of themselves in Luke and Noah. Like, watching them, I really believe that I'm sitting there watching Luke and Noah, and not Van and Jake TRYING to be Luke and Noah. I don't get that from Kish. And another thing...they've only been a couple for what...a month now? Maybe a bit more? And their storyline has only been on since the middle of the summer? I feel like...it was too quick, and the fact that they made love was nice and all, but I didn't really see why it was such a big deal for them as a couple. With Luke and Noah, everything was so drawn out and there was so much drama that they had to deal with to be together and they had to fight so much to get to that point, and you were really rooting for them at everything and you just WANTED them to finally be together and be happy. And when they finally made love it MEANT something. After Kish made love, it just left me feeling like "OK, that's all well and good but...I don't see the big deal. They love each other, they are finally together and took this big step in their relationship...but so what?" I just felt that with Luke and Noah, it MEANT SOMETHING. That their act of making love was a part of their story in such a huge and significant way that you could really feel the impact it had on them and what they had to go through. With Kish it just felt like it was just thrown in there at the end. I don't know...I'm sorry I just rambled, a lot of it probably doesn't make any sense (it is 3:30 in the morning, after all!), but that is how I felt. I can't help it! Edited by dazzling_icer, Dec 31 2009, 04:35 AM.
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| quasar | Dec 31 2009, 10:40 AM Post #6 |
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Thank you. I'm kind of afraid to say anything anymore, but I'll just repeat some of what I said at vh: Yes, they have better writers -we all know that by now- but the best writing in the world can't make up for a lack of chemistry, and for me anyway, the Kish guys just don't have it. I just don't feel anything when I'm watching them. When I see Luke and Noah, it feels real; I feel like I'm watching two people in love, but when I'm watching Kish I'm not feeling anything -I'm thinking that I'm watching two actors who get paid to kiss each other. There's nothing organic about it, but Van and Jake just had that from the beginning. I really wish I could enjoy and appreciate the significance of the moment Kish had more than I do, but for now anyway, I just can't. Someone on vh told me I was 'just in denial' when I said I don't feel any chemistry between the actors who play Kish, but I truly don't, and I'd most likely only be indifferent to Kish because of it, but instead I pretty much can't stand them, and that makes me sad, but that's thanks to what seems like the majority of Kish fans and soap press who feel compelled to take a dump on Nuke every time they slather praise on Kish. |
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| twins1729 | Dec 31 2009, 12:22 PM Post #7 |
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And I'm sorry, ATWT has the best acting BY FAR. I can't get into other soaps because the acting is so horrible. That's one thing we're spoiled with. |
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| sarafim | Dec 31 2009, 12:27 PM Post #8 |
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YESYESYES. Totally agree. Always have. I would've still watched Luke/Noah/Van/Jake of course. But I have actually watched the show without them more than I ever thought I would, and we are COMPLETELY spoiled in that department. I have a hard time thinking of someone I actually consider to be "bad" on ATWT. Some of the kids are a little rough of course, but I don't count that. |
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| twins1729 | Dec 31 2009, 12:40 PM Post #9 |
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YES And anytime I've even tried to sit through another soap (and not even comparing other storylines). Like, when my mom's watching B&B or Y&R. OMG, it's soooo bad. And I'm just sitting there wondering why ATWT gets so much flack when the other shows are just horrible. I know I'm not Soap Opera's biggest fan, but if someone told me to sit down and pick a Soap to watch, I would have picked ATWT. Even without Nuke. |
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| cord08 | Dec 31 2009, 12:59 PM Post #10 |
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| Lis | Dec 31 2009, 01:38 PM Post #11 |
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Thankyouthankyouthankyouthankyou everyone for your words that I couldn't express last night. First off, It was like 1 in the morning and two, for some reason, I still can't put the best reason of why I can't get into Kish into a post. Now there was something that twins said about other Soaps acting. I watch Y&R (ok..now as much as I've liked but recently since the vacation, I've watched it everyday) and it's a great show. One of my favorite things about that Soap is that it sort of captures the way Soaps used to be. And with some couples, I definatly see the connections but others are so BAD, I just can't watch (Noah and Eden have worse chemistry than some ppl would say Casey/Alison have!). But for some reason, almost every couple I watch on ATWT, even if I don't particuly like them, I alway see SOME connection. When a couple is fighting (like Jack and Janet the other day) I can feel EVERYTHING they are feeling, and what they are thinking just by their facial expressions. It's just SO good on ATWT, I'd watch even if Nuke weren't on. Quick question about Kish, though. If they are two adults (mid 20s?) and they've been away from each other for years, why the hell would they keep waiting? Or moreover, what was the need for the slow taking off of clothes and candles? Am I the only that feels that all those candles weren't nessarsay and furtherd the akwardness? Btw, an they open their mouths ONCE?! Omg. <--- that in itself seems like the most forced. Like quasar said, as if it's only for a paycheck and not the characters they should be investing themselves in. |
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| Lis | Dec 31 2009, 01:40 PM Post #12 |
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Why did you delete?
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| bbwqueen1004 | Dec 31 2009, 02:16 PM Post #13 |
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Hee. Ok. Well I like Kish. I do. I think they're cute (or well...I think KYLE is SOUNFINGADORABLE and Fish has his cute quirky moments too) in their own, more adult way. So when I watched the sex scene yesterday I enjoyed it and thought it was sweet. Because it was. The touching, the kisses against the face/forhead....it was REALLY cheesy (like all love scenes are), but it was a good cheesy. Having said that, while watching, the only real reaction I had to it was, "Oh. That was really sweet." And that was that (except, I'll admit that when I saw the pelvic thrust, my mind went blank for a second or two. I mean come on, ANY guy thrusting against another would make me GUH for a little bit. ).At the same time, I had been thinking back when Nuke first had sex. No I wasn't thinking to myself, "Oh, this should have been Nuke instead" or whatever (though.....yeah....ANYWAY. ). I had been thinking that when Nuke had had that first kiss (lovely GIF provided above) my heart started beating like crazy. And then when they continued to kiss, and went to the Lilypad, where they kissed some more, and then went up to Luke's room....I was shaking. I was flailing. My heart was going a million miles per hour. I could barely type in the PBP. I didn't know what to do with myself....and this was the result of them having sex WITHOUT anything being shown in detail. I "aw-d" over the Kish scene, but if Nuke had done something similar, I would have died. DIED YOU GUYS. NO TIME FOR AW-ING. So while I like Kish, it's Nuke that owns my freaking soul. And that's largely in part to do with Van and Jake. No offense to Scott or Brett (OMG BRETT LOVE YOU SO MUCH). I personally think the guys do share chemistry, but nothing--NOTHING--can ever touch the chemistry b/t Van and Jake. They are just electric. They can do simple things as Luke and Noah that I could spend hours squeeing about. Like was mentioned before, I feel like I'm watching an actual couple on my screen with Nuke...with Kish, I *KNOW* I'm just watching two actors pretending to be in a relationship. Both are good, but one triumphs over the other one in my books. And yeah...I don't know where that came from or if it made any sense, but there it is.
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| sarafim | Dec 31 2009, 02:45 PM Post #14 |
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If you like, made some sort of hybrid of these two posts, that's how I feel. ![]() I like Kish more than Hollie, and less than Mayah, but... yeah. The excellent points are all there! And I'm too lazy to type all that up, so THANKS LADIES!!
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| Lis | Dec 31 2009, 04:29 PM Post #15 |
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Were you in my living with me on Jan. 12, 2009? Because that was my exact reaction to the entire thing. Plus the scream at commerical before they came out of the shower P.S. Brett IS a cutie. I'll give you that.
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| twins1729 | Dec 31 2009, 05:58 PM Post #16 |
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It's funny, cause I would think that you liked Oliver, Mayah. Nicole watched it (cause I don't give a shit) and said that the guy that plays Kyle is a bad actor but the guy that plays Oliver is okay. LOL |
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| Lis | Dec 31 2009, 06:29 PM Post #17 |
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delete.
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| Amazon_Princess | Dec 31 2009, 06:42 PM Post #18 |
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Who has chemistry and who doesn't is all subjective opinion. A couple nights ago I was listening to a podcast and they were talking about the gay storylines on soaps, and I got peeved when they said they didn't think Van and Jake had any chemistry. Dog on the writing all you want, but to say they have absolutely no romantic chemistry astonished me. Because we see it every time they're on. But I guess some people don't, and some people think the OLTL actors have chemistry, and some don't. I'm happy for the fans of the couple and for the show, and I don't wish them ill will, but what makes me angry is how critics take this opportunity to dog on Nuke. If Nuke do a scene like that in the future, they'll be copycats because OLTL did it first. If they don't, then they're cowards. It's a double-edged sword. ::Sigh:: I just want good writing and good storytelling, no matter the show, no matter the couple, gay or straight. Edited by Amazon_Princess, Dec 31 2009, 06:43 PM.
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| andyfeltrad | Dec 31 2009, 08:35 PM Post #19 |
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Will respond properly to this thread probably tomorrow but I got a quick question, did Kish's love scene make mainstream media? Like Nuke's kiss on Entertainment Tonight and their sex scene on Best Week Ever on VH1? And the mainstream magazines and newspapers they were on the past 2 years? Does anyone know? I mean, besides the regular online blogs and soap mags. |
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| DancingElf88 | Dec 31 2009, 11:29 PM Post #20 |
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I just watched the show and I must admit that I liked it. But then again I love Kish so of course I felt something. Like Mayah said I thought "That was really sweet." I didn't think it was like crazy hot but I'm not sure if it was supposed to be hot but more sweet and romantic. But like I said I love Kish (Ok..I flove Kyle and Fish is seadily growing on me) so their scenes almost always make me swoon. |
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| cookienuke | Jan 1 2010, 09:44 AM Post #21 |
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I agree with you Chemistry is subjective some people think that Carly and Craig have chemistry but I think that they have none but Carly/Jack/Simon are the guys with she have a very good chemistry Some people like Casey and Allison together but I don't I don't think that Kyle and Fish have chemistry I would have wish to see that but I don't. I have seen a lot gay couple and straight who have a way better romantic chemistry on screen than they have . I don't say that because I'm jealous or something like because I'm not (I have better things to do than being jealous of a fictional couple just saying ) .It's just that when I watch their scene it's awkward (I only speak for myself here OK ) and I don't want to force myself to like someone only because a lot of people like them Some people don't see the chemistry between Jake and Van(I have seen them in Paris they have chemistry it's so weird to see that for real ) if I don't see the chemistry between Brett and Scott should I be flamed ?
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| quasar | Jan 1 2010, 03:13 PM Post #22 |
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Which is what I was saying. Kish genuinely don't do anything for me, but I've never told a Kish fan they were wrong for loving the couple or for being moved by the story, but I've been told more than a few times by Kish fans that there's no chemistry between Van and Jake and I only see it because I want to, and I'm that basically crazy for loving Nuke, and more specifically for seeing anything good in Jake. |
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| twins1729 | Jan 1 2010, 03:59 PM Post #23 |
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Exactly. For me, Kish isn't the problem. It's the bitter, bitchy fans. Who've ruined it for me long ago. And I'll never watch because of them. (And I mean the fans that are bitchy, not all fans.) |
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| bbwqueen1004 | Jan 2 2010, 03:52 AM Post #24 |
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HEE. HOW FUNNY THAT YOU SAY THIS. Because for some ODD REASON....whether it be their physicality or their similar personalities....I'm usually lured to couple by the lighter haired person. RE: Luke from ATWT. Justin for QaF. Arthur from Merlin (NOT getting into the fact that Arthur/Merlin isn't cannon so SHUSH ). Draco from HP. I even liked Fish when I first started watching the couple.But somewhere down the line I slowly but surely gravitate towards the darker haired (usually the more introverted) half of the couple. IDEKY. It just happens. So LOL that you were able to conclude that. That basically made my night. |
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| SunshineKat | Jan 2 2010, 06:36 AM Post #25 |
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That's so funny cause I usually gravitate towards the darker half - lol - or the more introverted ones. Noah. Brian. Merlin. (I LOVE KYLE! OH, BRETT!) Well, Draco - but he is exception to every rule, lol. |
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(haha, yay Moey) than when Kish did that. And I'm not being biased to one couple because I also watch Christian/Oliver s/l (sometimes I do skip around because they have some annoy characters on there's too..lol) and w/e they do I LOVE. But this was just..akward. No passion for me.


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). I had been thinking that when Nuke had had that first kiss (lovely GIF provided above) my heart started beating like crazy. And then when they continued to kiss, and went to the Lilypad, where they kissed some more, and then went up to Luke's room....I was shaking. I was flailing. My heart was going a million miles per hour. I could barely type in the PBP. I didn't know what to do with myself....and this was the result of them having sex WITHOUT anything being shown in detail. I "aw-d" over the Kish scene, but if Nuke had done something similar, I would have died. DIED YOU GUYS. NO TIME FOR AW-ING.
Plus the scream at commerical before they came out of the shower


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(I only speak for myself here OK ) and I don't want to force myself to like someone only because a lot of people like them
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