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Na Na Na Na. Hey Hey Hey. Goodbye; Interview-Spoilerish
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http://tvguide.ca/Soaps/Features/Articles/091028_forbes_march_NB.htm

Bye Bye Mason Jarvis. It was fun while it.....kinda lasted. :crying

ETA: HAHAHA. Just realized that the topic title/description kinda gave away the "spoilers" to this thread so.... *REDO*. :D
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IDK what to really think about this.

Forbes is really candid. On one hand, I like how honest and snarky he is. On the other hand, I hate what he said about the "gay enough" thing.

It also seems like their have been some edits in the interview. Branco's fault? IDK.

It's weird, because people keep saying Forbes is a tool. But if Van did an interview like this a year down the road and he was just as honest and snarky? Would we think he's a tool as well?
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I only think Forbes is a tool for the "not gay enough" comment. That irks me like you wouldn't BELIEVE, and the fact that he said it about Luke and Noah just irritated me beyond anything in this world.

But I like candidness. That I had no problem with. If Van and/or Jake were to be as candid and snarky as Forbes was, I'd be perfectly alright with it.

......as long as they didn't complain that Luke and Noah weren't "gay enough". :P
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Totally missed this, but.......there were edits??

What can you expect with Nelson B., I guess. Makes me wonder about all the rest of the interview.
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I hate hate hate hate HATE the "not gay enough" comments. It makes me want to rip people's balls off. So yeah, he is a tool for making a comment like that. Are Kish acting "gay enough" on OLTL, like all flamboyant and sashaying all over the place? I haven't been watching so I don't know.

But I liked how candid the rest of the interview was. Cause really? If you were to interview any ATWT actor after the show was over, I guarantee you we'll probably get the same interviews as FM's.

I also LOATHE that that interview was with Branco. I hate how all "important" interviews are with people who hate Nuke.
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Oct 28 2009, 05:35 PM
I hate hate hate hate HATE the "not gay enough" comments. It makes me want to rip people's balls off. So yeah, he is a tool for making a comment like that. Are Kish acting "gay enough" on OLTL, like all flamboyant and sashaying all over the place? I haven't been watching so I don't know.
I've been watching, and I'm sad to report that there's nothing flamboyantly glam-rock about Kish.

Actually, Kish is about as gay as Bill Cosby. :D
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Oct 28 2009, 05:41 PM
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Oct 28 2009, 05:35 PM
I hate hate hate hate HATE the "not gay enough" comments. It makes me want to rip people's balls off. So yeah, he is a tool for making a comment like that. Are Kish acting "gay enough" on OLTL, like all flamboyant and sashaying all over the place? I haven't been watching so I don't know.
I've been watching, and I'm sad to report that there's nothing flamboyantly glam-rock about Kish.

Actually, Kish is about as gay as Bill Cosby. :D
Oh damn.

I guess the only real gay person out there is Adam Lambert.

The rest are FAKES

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Nelson is on my list of people I want to (and could) beat up.

Nelson
Sidney Crosby
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and my brother's one friend...
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Oct 28 2009, 05:50 PM
Nelson is on my list of people I want to (and could) beat up.

Nelson
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and my brother's one friend...
LMAO.

That's quite a list, twins. Those folks better watch out. :P
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Oct 28 2009, 05:35 PM
I also LOATHE that that interview was with Branco. I hate how all "important" interviews are with people who hate Nuke.
I know, Branco just loves getting these opportunities to throw Nuke/Jake under a bus. and well these Nuke/Jake hater interviewers think they are real journalists but they are just all perez hilton wannabees. Ha Ha lets make fun of an actor because we dont like him hahaha. whatever these people are idiots. Branco, Mala, and AL can all go to hell. Sorry for the bitterness I had a very bad day.
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Oct 28 2009, 05:52 PM
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Oct 28 2009, 05:50 PM
Nelson is on my list of people I want to (and could) beat up.

Nelson
Sidney Crosby
Parker
and my brother's one friend...
LMAO.

That's quite a list, twins. Those folks better watch out. :P
They better, cause with Nicole's help we'd be like Matt Damon and Greg Kinnear in "Stuck on You!"

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NB is lame as always :throwingup
And the not gay enough comment is hum....... not very funny :wacko sorry Forbes :zombie

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Oct 28 2009, 05:35 PM
I also LOATHE that that interview was with Branco. I hate how all "important" interviews are with people who hate Nuke.
I know, Branco just loves getting these opportunities to throw Nuke/Jake under a bus. and well these Nuke/Jake hater interviewers think they are real journalists but they are just all perez hilton wannabees. Ha Ha lets make fun of an actor because we dont like him hahaha. whatever these people are idiots. Branco, Mala, and AL can all go to hell. Sorry for the bitterness I had a very bad day.
I must be bitter all the time, because that's how I feel! :P
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Okay. I have never disliked Forbes as much as some folks do. But with this interview, I'm starting to get it.

"I honestly don’t think America is ready for a gay storyline on a soap." Excuse me? And Luke and Noah aren't gay enough? Okay.

Also. Slightly off-topic and possibly ridiculously nerdy of me. But was anyone else distracted by this?

"Any time I wanted to put my hand on Noah’s shoulder, several serious discussions ensued whether or not it would pass the mustard."

Pass the mustard?
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Oct 28 2009, 06:37 PM
Okay. I have never disliked Forbes as much as some folks do. But with this interview, I'm starting to get it.

"I honestly don’t think America is ready for a gay storyline on a soap." Excuse me? And Luke and Noah aren't gay enough? Okay.

Also. Slightly off-topic and possibly ridiculously nerdy of me. But was anyone else distracted by this?

"Any time I wanted to put my hand on Noah’s shoulder, several serious discussions ensued whether or not it would pass the mustard."

Pass the mustard?
I am not really defending Forbes cause I don't know two shits about the guy since he's been on ATWT, but I honestly think he was talking about his experiences on how it was like to work for ATWT.

He probably expected to do a hell of a lot more with Jake than what we got. He probably expected to be kissing him and he probably expected a triangle. And from his interview, it seemed like he was ready for it and all for it. But what he got? Was nothing.

He also included Mason in that "not gay enough thing." I hate when people say that and I disagree with him on that, but Mason literally didn't get to do ANYTHING with Noah. And Forbes said that any type of contact had to be approved first.

So if he was talking about his experiences on ATWT, I can see why he'd make a comment about how America is not ready for a gay storyline on a soap. *shrugs*
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Oct 28 2009, 06:44 PM
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Okay. I have never disliked Forbes as much as some folks do. But with this interview, I'm starting to get it.

"I honestly don’t think America is ready for a gay storyline on a soap." Excuse me? And Luke and Noah aren't gay enough? Okay.

Also. Slightly off-topic and possibly ridiculously nerdy of me. But was anyone else distracted by this?

"Any time I wanted to put my hand on Noah’s shoulder, several serious discussions ensued whether or not it would pass the mustard."

Pass the mustard?
I am not really defending Forbes cause I don't know two shits about the guy since he's been on ATWT, but I honestly think he was talking about his experiences on how it was like to work for ATWT.

He probably expected to do a hell of a lot more with Jake than what we got. He probably expected to be kissing him and he probably expected a triangle. And from his interview, it seemed like he was ready for it and all for it. But what he got? Was nothing.

He also included Mason in that "not gay enough thing." I hate when people say that and I disagree with him on that, but Mason literally didn't get to do ANYTHING with Noah. And Forbes said that any type of contact had to be approved first.

So if he was talking about his experiences on ATWT, I can see why he'd make a comment about how America is not ready for a gay storyline on a soap. *shrugs*
I get what you're saying about working for ATWT, but the article still rankled me.

First, the whole pass muster thing (pass mustard - not cool FM/ or Branco for that matter)-- Van is one of the touchiest/feeliest actors on the show. His hands are always on Jake (not that I can blame him) Why were they worked up about how much FM was touching him?

Also, I can't tell you how much the whole "not gay enough" thing bugs the crap out of me. I'm sorry, but none of my gay friends dress like Adam Lambert. Maybe because they're all middle aged and professional and we're clueless old people, but I doubt it. Personally, I love that Luke and Noah are so wholesome and normal looking. (BTW, so are Kish, but I digress) Isn't that part of the message we should be teaching kids - that homosexuals aren't some stereotype they see on television?

Sorry - people like Branco really really bug the crap out of me.

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Can someone please post this article at the LJ comm JUST so we can use the "In Which Branco is a Bitter Queen" tag again??!?!

Cause that tag makes my life!

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Can someone please post this article at the LJ comm JUST so we can use the "In Which Branco is a Bitter Queen" tag again??!?!

Cause that tag makes my life!

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I'd love to. Ha. But I really don't want to cause more wank. The luke_noah comm is one of the very few, if not only, place that barely has wank. :)

But I wish we tag on here like that. :P
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Oct 28 2009, 06:37 PM
Okay. I have never disliked Forbes as much as some folks do. But with this interview, I'm starting to get it.

"I honestly don’t think America is ready for a gay storyline on a soap." Excuse me? And Luke and Noah aren't gay enough? Okay.

Also. Slightly off-topic and possibly ridiculously nerdy of me. But was anyone else distracted by this?

"Any time I wanted to put my hand on Noah’s shoulder, several serious discussions ensued whether or not it would pass the mustard."

Pass the mustard?
I am not really defending Forbes cause I don't know two shits about the guy since he's been on ATWT, but I honestly think he was talking about his experiences on how it was like to work for ATWT.

He probably expected to do a hell of a lot more with Jake than what we got. He probably expected to be kissing him and he probably expected a triangle. And from his interview, it seemed like he was ready for it and all for it. But what he got? Was nothing.

He also included Mason in that "not gay enough thing." I hate when people say that and I disagree with him on that, but Mason literally didn't get to do ANYTHING with Noah. And Forbes said that any type of contact had to be approved first.

So if he was talking about his experiences on ATWT, I can see why he'd make a comment about how America is not ready for a gay storyline on a soap. *shrugs*
I get what you're saying about working for ATWT, but the article still rankled me.

First, the whole pass muster thing (pass mustard - not cool FM/ or Branco for that matter)-- Van is one of the touchiest/feeliest actors on the show. His hands are always on Jake (not that I can blame him) Why were they worked up about how much FM was touching him?

Also, I can't tell you how much the whole "not gay enough" thing bugs the crap out of me. I'm sorry, but none of my gay friends dress like Adam Lambert. Maybe because they're all middle aged and professional and we're clueless old people, but I doubt it. Personally, I love that Luke and Noah are so wholesome and normal looking. (BTW, so are Kish, but I digress) Isn't that part of the message we should be teaching kids - that homosexuals aren't some stereotype they see on television?

Sorry - people like Branco really really bug the crap out of me.

Oh jinx! I totally just posted something like this over on vh.net.
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Oct 28 2009, 07:13 PM
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Can someone please post this article at the LJ comm JUST so we can use the "In Which Branco is a Bitter Queen" tag again??!?!

Cause that tag makes my life!

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I'd love to. Ha. But I really don't want to cause more wank. The luke_noah comm is one of the very few, if not only, place that barely has wank. :)

But I wish we tag on here like that. :P
Haha, I wasn't being serious...I don't want to start up something just as much as you! I was just trying to be funny and remind people that NB is, in fact, a bitter queen.

But yes...I wish boards had tags. Cause you seriously come up with some of the best tags I've ever seen!
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Oct 28 2009, 07:44 PM
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Oct 28 2009, 07:13 PM
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Can someone please post this article at the LJ comm JUST so we can use the "In Which Branco is a Bitter Queen" tag again??!?!

Cause that tag makes my life!

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I'd love to. Ha. But I really don't want to cause more wank. The luke_noah comm is one of the very few, if not only, place that barely has wank. :)

But I wish we tag on here like that. :P
Haha, I wasn't being serious...I don't want to start up something just as much as you! I was just trying to be funny and remind people that NB is, in fact, a bitter queen.

But yes...I wish boards had tags. Cause you seriously come up with some of the best tags I've ever seen!
Hee. If someone posts it thought, I'll just have to monitor the comments.

The boards do have tags! We just can't see them for some reason. But if I had tagged this thread with that, you'd have to type it into the search box and that's how you'll get this thread. :P I believe that's how it works.
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Oct 28 2009, 05:26 PM
It also seems like their have been some edits in the interview. Branco's fault? IDK.
Apparently, all the edits have removed specific references to Proctor & Gamble boycotts. Richard on vanandjake.com posted the original article before it was edited, which is handy, because it makes a side-by-side comparison possible. Here are some of the changes:

Original: "Nothing kills a show faster than a boycott! If you want a show to be taken off the air, boycott the product, which in this case, are P&G products."

Edited: "Nothing kills a show faster than a boycott!"

Original: "Luckily, ABC owns their own soaps. I guarantee you that World Turns will be off the air in a year — if the Procter & Gamble product boycott continues. Chris is trying to desperately figure out how to tell this story because he is personally invested in it, but P&G isn’t."

Edited: "Luckily, ABC owns their own soaps. Chris is trying to desperately figure out how to tell this story because he is personally invested in it, but P&G isn’t."

Hmm.
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Oct 28 2009, 05:26 PM
It also seems like their have been some edits in the interview. Branco's fault? IDK.
Apparently, all the edits have removed specific references to Proctor & Gamble boycotts. Richard on vanandjake.com posted the original article before it was edited, which is handy, because it makes a side-by-side comparison possible. Here are some of the changes:

Original: "Nothing kills a show faster than a boycott! If you want a show to be taken off the air, boycott the product, which in this case, are P&G products."

Edited: "Nothing kills a show faster than a boycott!"

Original: "Luckily, ABC owns their own soaps. I guarantee you that World Turns will be off the air in a year — if the Procter & Gamble product boycott continues. Chris is trying to desperately figure out how to tell this story because he is personally invested in it, but P&G isn’t."

Edited: "Luckily, ABC owns their own soaps. Chris is trying to desperately figure out how to tell this story because he is personally invested in it, but P&G isn’t."

Hmm.
We all knew P&G was always the problem. This is just proof.

I have no idea why Branco edited AFTER it was published.

But I'm still so confused about the boycott. Is P&G losing business because of people boycotting their products cause they don't want gay people on their soaps? And it's making such a huge impact that that's really the sole reason they're going to cancel ATWT?

Really? Please someone explain this to me.
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Oct 28 2009, 08:17 PM
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Oct 28 2009, 05:26 PM
It also seems like their have been some edits in the interview. Branco's fault? IDK.
Apparently, all the edits have removed specific references to Proctor & Gamble boycotts. Richard on vanandjake.com posted the original article before it was edited, which is handy, because it makes a side-by-side comparison possible. Here are some of the changes:

Original: "Nothing kills a show faster than a boycott! If you want a show to be taken off the air, boycott the product, which in this case, are P&G products."

Edited: "Nothing kills a show faster than a boycott!"

Original: "Luckily, ABC owns their own soaps. I guarantee you that World Turns will be off the air in a year — if the Procter & Gamble product boycott continues. Chris is trying to desperately figure out how to tell this story because he is personally invested in it, but P&G isn’t."

Edited: "Luckily, ABC owns their own soaps. Chris is trying to desperately figure out how to tell this story because he is personally invested in it, but P&G isn’t."

Hmm.
We all knew P&G was always the problem. This is just proof.

I have no idea why Branco edited AFTER it was published.

But I'm still so confused about the boycott. Is P&G losing business because of people boycotting their products cause they don't want gay people on their soaps? And it's making such a huge impact that that's really the sole reason they're going to cancel ATWT?

Really? Please someone explain this to me.
I don't get it either.

If P&G were really losing THAT much business because of one gay couple on the show then Nuke would have been axed a long time ago. For this I'm certain.

I definitely think P&G are still getting beef about having the gays on the show, but I don't think it's enough to drive ATWT to cancellation. ATWT will get cancelled because P&G doesn't want a soap under their name anymore, not because of Nuke.
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I think part of the reason the interview bothered me so much was knowing that Forbes and Branco really are friends, and there was possibly a comfort level there he might not necessarily feel with other journalists, and I know it's completely irrational, but I just keep imagining the nasty things Nelson has said about Nuke (and Jake) to Forbes off the record.

And the not gay enough stuff. Ugh. Not only was it just plain stupid, but it completely feeds into the criticism that Jake especially doesn't play his character gay enough, and therefore he's the reason Nuke are such Big Fat Fail in some people's opinion.

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