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Mason Storyline Speculation Time; YAY!
Topic Started: Oct 22 2009, 09:04 AM (3,159 Views)
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Oct 22 2009, 04:33 PM
What I'm wondering about is if Mason is going to be redeemed in the end sort of along the same lines as the whole Brian debacle. Because, yeah, he did assault Luke (or at least attempt to on some occasions) but during the last couple of episodes with Brian the boys sort of forgave him. I felt like they came to some mutual understanding.

I think the days of purely evil soap characters are gone. I mean, look at Damian for example. And as much as people want to vilify Mason I'm hoping that at the end his character will come full circle. I'm not saying that if the sexual assault thing does pan out that Mason will be one hundred percent accepted and loved. But that they move through the proper avenues with his character.

Regardless of what happens exactly I am super amped for the November storyline. And I wonder what happened to Noah that he's no longer working at Java. I mean, he hardly ever worked anyway and when he was working he always left or had someone cover so he could be with his booface. Jake totally let something slip during the Q&A. 'Way to go, Jake.'
I think if they do the assault route, it's difficult to redeem the character. But The November Sweeps article did say they weren't turning him psycho. Although I take that with a grain of salt. The quote sounded too much like when general managers say they have complete faith in their head coach....

Anyway, I didn't catch that slip first time around. I do know at the Emmy's Jake said something Noah going through personal hardships. Sounds like his entire world might collapse - his degree, his job, and if he's the victim of an attack. And somehow I think Luke is going to be suffering too because he played an inadvertant role in Noah's issues.

Either way, it will be painful to watch but the boys will rock it out of the park. They both bring out the best in each other when they have emotional scenes. If Van's saying Jake rocked, then I'm guessing it's a safe bet to say Van kept up.

And Jake has grown so incredibly much over the past two years. He will do such amazing things with the material - stuff that we couldn't imagine two years ago. I also love that he isn't a scenery chewer by nature. That kind of acting gets old fast.

:bored Is it November 9th yet?
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Oct 22 2009, 04:33 PM
What I'm wondering about is if Mason is going to be redeemed in the end sort of along the same lines as the whole Brian debacle. Because, yeah, he did assault Luke (or at least attempt to on some occasions) but during the last couple of episodes with Brian the boys sort of forgave him. I felt like they came to some mutual understanding.
I'm going with a big fat no on that one.

As much as I HATED what Brian did and as much as I hated how he DID take advantage of Luke - it wasn't framed as sexual assault. It wasn't even really shown as something that was wrong - thanks so much for that Jean :rollseyes - so much as Brian being confused about his sexuality and attracted to Luke.

The fact that Luke initated that second kiss and was pretty sober to shoot him down when Brian was drunk sort of evened out the playing field.

In the end - and I think in their minds - all the way through the story, Brian was supposed to be sympathetic.

I'm not feeling that for Mason at all (I didn't for Brian but I was aware I was supposed to).

Also, at no time in that story did THEY frame Brian badly. Not really. Confused. Maybe a tool but not bad.

Mason isn't looking too good in the upcoming spoilers, IMO. THIS is being told in a COMPLETELY different light.

Also, I totally disagree about villians. They've got some sickies in daytime still.
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Also, at no time in that story did THEY frame Brian badly. Not really. Confused. Maybe a tool but not bad.

Mason isn't looking too good in the upcoming spoilers, IMO. THIS is being told in a COMPLETELY different light.

Yeah, I can see what you mean. From day one I felt sympathetic towards Brian, and Mason has much less, although it is still there. I guess where I feel sympathetic towards Mason is in the unrequited love aspect. I know what that's like, what he's going through, so I feel for the guy.

And while I do really like the potential Mason had as a character, I am kinda looking forward to his downfall. I'm just hoping that they do it justice. But I know that if everything does pan out like we think it's going to, or if they do go the trial route, Jake is going to rock it. Hands down. And plus, if a trial means that we get Jake in a suit again, I'm not going to complain.

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And Jake has grown so incredibly much over the past two years. He will do such amazing things with the material - stuff that we couldn't imagine two years ago. I also love that he isn't a scenery chewer by nature. That kind of acting gets old fast.

I agree so hard. Jake has shown amazing growth as an actor over the past two years. He's been hitting out of the park the entire year. So looking forward to how he plays everything that is to come.



What I'm really interested in is the one spoiler 'Noah's film bothers Luke.' I was wondering content-wise, or just that Luke was cut from the creative process. I wonder what Noah's mystery film is all about.
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I'm so excited! Although I wanted a full out triangle (and still do)...if it goes down the sexual assault route I won't complain. I'm so super stoked for Jake to rock this out of the park. I don't know if Mason will necessarily overpower Noah, but maye he'll drug him and take advantage. Noah may not remember what happens and Mason will twist it and the Luke will go off at the prospect of them being together and then go batshit when he finds out the truth and that's when his Damian side will come out.

Whatever happens..... :hyper :hyper :hyper :hyper <---this is me
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I'm so freaking excited about this!!! I'm ready for some heart-gushing angst! Jake is going to knock this out of the park :D
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Man, if the sexual assault storyline turns out to be true, things are gonna get shitty on the show! :D No doubt the boys (and Jake in particular) are going to rock the crap out of this one. :rockon

I am so ridiculously pent up with anticipation - I can't wait to see whatever it is that Van keeps gushing over Jake about, and I can't wait to see what Mason does that kicks it all off!

Is it November yet? No, seriously...is it? :D
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Umm,wow,

I didn't think they would actually go there,if they DO it will be something completely different and worth watching

The build up has definetly been slow enough that's for sure

It's given us something this show NEVER gives there temp characters

Time for the audience to know and to care

This is definelty going to be interesting
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Just about a week until November (and two until my birthday... *coughs*).

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I really, really, really hope that is IS a sexual harrassment storyline. Like, I'd only take them getting married or adopting a baby over a sexual harrassment storyline. Yami no Matsuei gave me a fascination with sexual assault against men in fiction, if only because it's so rarely portrayed. They missed the mark with Jack and Julia Lindsey (she broke bones!), and with Luke and ZoeGia (which also kinda included Noah and Zach), so if they DO do this I hope they really take it seriously and follow through.
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Psh. I don't even know what's going on! So its safe to say that the sexual assault theory is now fact?

And Noah's not going to work at Java anymore!?!? Awwww! I'm going to miss Noah's skin-tight, form-fitting Java shirt. * le sigh*

I'm looking foward to whatever comes up next for the guys. Because holy hell. Its been a while, hasn't it? AND. Jake would OWN that storyline, for freaking sure. And Van too.

So bring it on, homies. :D
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Soo...I'm not sure if this has been touched upon at all...but what do you guys think that Luke is gonna actually do to Mason? All of the spoilers are saying that he comes up with some kind of scheme to get rid of Mason (where is Damian side comes out) that backfires and leaves the boys in this place they never thought they would be in, and causes a lot of problems, and is very dark, yatta yatta yatta. But what do you think Luke is actually going to do?

Has anyone speculated that Luke could possibly end up accidentally killing Mason? This is just an idea, mind you...I have no idea what is going to happen or how, but wouldn't that be a really interesting twist? It would definitely put some angst between the boys, and let's not even begin with all of the damage it could do to Luke. But what do you think...do you think it's possible that the show could go this route?
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Oct 26 2009, 09:43 PM
Soo...I'm not sure if this has been touched upon at all...but what do you guys think that Luke is gonna actually do to Mason? All of the spoilers are saying that he comes up with some kind of scheme to get rid of Mason (where is Damian side comes out) that backfires and leaves the boys in this place they never thought they would be in, and causes a lot of problems, and is very dark, yatta yatta yatta. But what do you think Luke is actually going to do?

Has anyone speculated that Luke could possibly end up accidentally killing Mason? This is just an idea, mind you...I have no idea what is going to happen or how, but wouldn't that be a really interesting twist? It would definitely put some angst between the boys, and let's not even begin with all of the damage it could do to Luke. But what do you think...do you think it's possible that the show could go this route?
I think that idea has been brought up at some point. I just reaaaaaalllllly hope that's not what happens. Because the thought of Luke actually wanting to cause someone physical harm in the first place bothers me. I can see him being manipulative, and even mean towards Mason, but physical harm? Errr. Even though the killing part would be accidental, I just. Woah. I'm all for angsty character drama, but I don't really want to deal with the whole possibility of Luke going to jail or something. I think I'd rather have it just be things going on between Luke and Noah, without all that. But I think I'm wrong, and that it will be something that serious. Because all this "place they've never been before" stuff just doesn't sound like it will only be relationship drama. It sounds like there must be something else going on.

The only other thing I can think of, (and I almost feel like a terrible fan for even mentioning this), is that he does something that actually ends up almost killing Noah instead. Or really harms Noah in some serious way. Because THAT? Would be something that they've never experienced before. Cause there was also another spoiler that said Luke could possibly lose everything he holds dear. Or something like that. Which, y'know. Killing somebody and going to jail for it might do.

Although I just realized that all of this accidental stuff would be kinda similar to what just happened to Jack, wouldn't it? One more reason I hope they surprise me with something else.
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New Speculation:

Apparently at VH.net, someone said they hired a man to play an eye doctor...... We know Luke gets some kind of plan that backfires and we know someone suffers violence.

This is kind of out there, but what if Luke decides to teach Mason a lesson and somehow Noah gets stuck in the middle and gets injured? Like blinded. And it's Luke's fault? Or Luke believes it's his fault? That would make for some heavy duty drama......
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Oct 27 2009, 08:20 AM
New Speculation:

Apparently at VH.net, someone said they hired a man to play an eye doctor...... We know Luke gets some kind of plan that backfires and we know someone suffers violence.

This is kind of out there, but what if Luke decides to teach Mason a lesson and somehow Noah gets stuck in the middle and gets injured? Like blinded. And it's Luke's fault? Or Luke believes it's his fault? That would make for some heavy duty drama......
Especially considering Noah's career path. Any kind of eye injury could be devastating, even one that wouldn't be a huge problem for the average person. :-/
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Oct 27 2009, 08:20 AM
New Speculation:

Apparently at VH.net, someone said they hired a man to play an eye doctor...... We know Luke gets some kind of plan that backfires and we know someone suffers violence.

This is kind of out there, but what if Luke decides to teach Mason a lesson and somehow Noah gets stuck in the middle and gets injured? Like blinded. And it's Luke's fault? Or Luke believes it's his fault? That would make for some heavy duty drama......
I am soooooooooooooooooo very torn about all this now! I literally, (up several posts) just mentioned last night that perhaps Noah gets hurt because of Luke, but now that there *might* be spoilery evidence to start supporting it, I take it back! WAH.

It almost scares me so much I feel like I need to just shut up and stop reading spoilers and speculation. But on the other hand, I can't stop either! I WANT TO KNOWWWWW.

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If Noah goes blind, OH MY EFF. I will cry my head off. I just, wow. I know that Luke does something that goes wrong, I just really don't know if I could handle it being his fault. I'm not even sure *I* would be okay with them getting back together after something like that. That would freaking eff up a relationship, for sure. Especially because I'm going to assume that whatever Luke does is not necessary. Now, if it happened while Luke was trying to fully save Noah's life or something, I could be down with that. But just some silly plan that goes wrong? OH GOD. That will be massively terrible. Seriously.

Oh, but I'm still pretty sure Mason does something terrible, too. I think that's almost confirmed, isn't it? So good GOSH. If this stuff all plays out, too? They are really putting Noah through the freaking ringer, aren't they? Unless it's all the same event. Like Mason tries to do something, and Luke does something right back, and BAM. Drama explosion.

ACK. How many more days?

*runs round in flaily circles til November*
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Oct 27 2009, 02:44 PM
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Oct 27 2009, 08:20 AM
New Speculation:

Apparently at VH.net, someone said they hired a man to play an eye doctor...... We know Luke gets some kind of plan that backfires and we know someone suffers violence.

This is kind of out there, but what if Luke decides to teach Mason a lesson and somehow Noah gets stuck in the middle and gets injured? Like blinded. And it's Luke's fault? Or Luke believes it's his fault? That would make for some heavy duty drama......
I am soooooooooooooooooo very torn about all this now! I literally, (up several posts) just mentioned last night that perhaps Noah gets hurt because of Luke, but now that there *might* be spoilery evidence to start supporting it, I take it back! WAH.

It almost scares me so much I feel like I need to just shut up and stop reading spoilers and speculation. But on the other hand, I can't stop either! I WANT TO KNOWWWWW.

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If Noah goes blind, OH MY EFF. I will cry my head off. I just, wow. I know that Luke does something that goes wrong, I just really don't know if I could handle it being his fault. I'm not even sure *I* would be okay with them getting back together after something like that. That would freaking eff up a relationship, for sure. Especially because I'm going to assume that whatever Luke does is not necessary. Now, if it happened while Luke was trying to fully save Noah's life or something, I could be down with that. But just some silly plan that goes wrong? OH GOD. That will be massively terrible. Seriously.

Oh, but I'm still pretty sure Mason does something terrible, too. I think that's almost confirmed, isn't it? So good GOSH. If this stuff all plays out, too? They are really putting Noah through the freaking ringer, aren't they? Unless it's all the same event. Like Mason tries to do something, and Luke does something right back, and BAM. Drama explosion.

ACK. How many more days?

*runs round in flaily circles til November*
Sarah:

If it makes you feel better, I blew part of my lunch hour scouring for a eye doctor start date to see if it would fit in the timeline. I couldn't find one though.

Back to feet stamping.... :bored
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Could it be possible that it's Luke that would have problems with his eyes? We all assume something bad is going to happen to Noah, but "dealing with what has happened" might refer to him dealing with somthing that happened to Luke. He could not be working at Java because either he himself is blinded, or because he's taking care of Luke.

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I know that Luke does something that goes wrong, I just really don't know if I could handle it being his fault.

Me too. That would just kill the couple for me.

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Oh man...all this eye doctor stuff is really getting to me now!

The thought of what Mason is gonna do to Noah is already so heartwrenching, and now to think that Luke might possibly hurt Noah too...it's just too much for my heart to handle! And then I think about how amazing Van and Jake are gonna be in those scenes, and I want it to be here nownownownownow! And it's even worse cause like you've all already said...we have to wait so long for it to just happen already!

I totally just realized that the song that is playing on my iTunes right now is "I Can't Wait" by Hanson...oh the ironic goodness!
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Probably in the minority but if Luke is somehow responsible for hurting Noah like that, it won't ruin the couple for me. Because I guess for me a) it's a soap (Emily has stabbed Paul in the past or shot him or something and they're all lovey dovey now) b) I know Nuke are treated differently but this will probably be the most soapy they'll ever get c) Luke didn't do it on purpose, it wasn't out of any malicious intent. Noah didn't cheat on him and Luke wanted revenge or something, it's an accident.

So I definitely think they can come back from this without them being ruined as a couple for me.

But holy shit, I am so excited. I'm SCARED. But flipping excited.
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Oct 27 2009, 10:23 PM
Probably in the minority but if Luke is somehow responsible for hurting Noah like that, it won't ruin the couple for me. Because I guess for me a) it's a soap (Emily has stabbed Paul in the past or shot him or something and they're all lovey dovey now) b) I know Nuke are treated differently but this will probably be the most soapy they'll ever get c) Luke didn't do it on purpose, it wasn't out of any malicious intent. Noah didn't cheat on him and Luke wanted revenge or something, it's an accident.

So I definitely think they can come back from this without them being ruined as a couple for me.

But holy shit, I am so excited. I'm SCARED. But flipping excited.
I concur. My heart will break and I'll e all " "OH SHIT BRO!" but it'll be hella soapy and provide wonderful drama for my boos to play. EXCITED!!
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Oct 27 2009, 10:23 PM
Probably in the minority but if Luke is somehow responsible for hurting Noah like that, it won't ruin the couple for me. Because I guess for me a) it's a soap (Emily has stabbed Paul in the past or shot him or something and they're all lovey dovey now) b) I know Nuke are treated differently but this will probably be the most soapy they'll ever get c) Luke didn't do it on purpose, it wasn't out of any malicious intent. Noah didn't cheat on him and Luke wanted revenge or something, it's an accident.

So I definitely think they can come back from this without them being ruined as a couple for me.

But holy shit, I am so excited. I'm SCARED. But flipping excited.
I concur. My heart will break and I'll e all " "OH SHIT BRO!" but it'll be hella soapy and provide wonderful drama for my boos to play. EXCITED!!
Agreed!

It won't ruin the couple for me either...it might make me like them even more! Adds another dynamic to their relationship, and it's gonna be some AMAZING acting from Van and Jake (cause they are the real couple anyway, right?)!

And I know what you mean about being scared, Moey. I think about the storyline and all of the possible dark stuff, and my heart just twists and clenches thinking about it! BUT I WANT IT TO COME SO BADLY!
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Oct 27 2009, 10:23 PM
Probably in the minority but if Luke is somehow responsible for hurting Noah like that, it won't ruin the couple for me. Because I guess for me a) it's a soap (Emily has stabbed Paul in the past or shot him or something and they're all lovey dovey now) b) I know Nuke are treated differently but this will probably be the most soapy they'll ever get c) Luke didn't do it on purpose, it wasn't out of any malicious intent. Noah didn't cheat on him and Luke wanted revenge or something, it's an accident.

So I definitely think they can come back from this without them being ruined as a couple for me.

But holy shit, I am so excited. I'm SCARED. But flipping excited.
I concur. My heart will break and I'll e all " "OH SHIT BRO!" but it'll be hella soapy and provide wonderful drama for my boos to play. EXCITED!!
Agreed!

It won't ruin the couple for me either...it might make me like them even more! Adds another dynamic to their relationship, and it's gonna be some AMAZING acting from Van and Jake (cause they are the real couple anyway, right?)!

And I know what you mean about being scared, Moey. I think about the storyline and all of the possible dark stuff, and my heart just twists and clenches thinking about it! BUT I WANT IT TO COME SO BADLY!
For real. The dark stuff actually excites me more than scares me actually. I'm just SOOOO looking for it. :hyper :hyper :hyper Weee November!
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Oct 27 2009, 10:23 PM
Probably in the minority but if Luke is somehow responsible for hurting Noah like that, it won't ruin the couple for me. Because I guess for me a) it's a soap (Emily has stabbed Paul in the past or shot him or something and they're all lovey dovey now) b) I know Nuke are treated differently but this will probably be the most soapy they'll ever get c) Luke didn't do it on purpose, it wasn't out of any malicious intent. Noah didn't cheat on him and Luke wanted revenge or something, it's an accident.

So I definitely think they can come back from this without them being ruined as a couple for me.

But holy shit, I am so excited. I'm SCARED. But flipping excited.
You're not alone.

If Luke was somehow inadvertenly responsible, it was be such a great story and in the end it was solidfy them as a stronger couple. I wouldn't blame him. He would never purposely hurt Noah.

So yeah. Wouldn't ruin anything for me. :)
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