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Lesbians Love Silbermann!; An interesting cultural phenomena...
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This was mentioned in another post, and it's something that sort of fascinates me, and would be fun to discuss-Jake and his adoring posse of Lesbians. Clearlier (Tonya) and I talked about this once before, and I just find it interesting that there's something about Jake and Noah that draws gals who wouldn't normally be interested in anyone with an XY chromosome.

Van seems to get straight women and gay men, Jake gets folks of all persuasions drooling over him. And why, exactly?

Since I'm a straight woman, I only have theories. (Although Moey and I agree that we'd both sleep with Ewa. And I have a thing for Rosario Dawson...but I digress...)

There are just some people-like Ewa-who just attract everybody. Jake-even though I've never met him, so I'm judging this from interviews and friends personal encounters-he's this very confident, masculine guy that seems really comfortable in his own skin and doesn't take himself too seriously. And that's really sexy in my book. There's also a very puppyish, playful enthusiasm coupled with a bright intelligence that's also appealing. Jake always seems to really think about the dumbest questions he gets asked, also attractive. He seems manly without being remotely threatening.

And yeah, there's that smile. And that body... :thud

This is all just speculation, and I wonder sometimes if Jake in RL life has to fight off hoards of "Gimme Sugar" girls.

So...any actual Lesbians who can explain?





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I think you answered your question in your own post :)


But i'm into both genders so...not much help - sworry!
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I'm one of those lesbians who goes all :wub :thud :drool over Jake.

I can't really explain it any better than you did. The fact that he's male is almost inconsequential.

My girlfriend and I have sat around discussing this because she too loves Teh Silbermann something fierce and neither one of us can figure it out.

It's mystifying because there are other male actors and musicians that I find attractive like, woah, but I wouldn't necessarily sleep with any of them because of that whole he's a guy thing. But Jake seems to slip under that whole he's a guy thing and given the chance (and more than likely enough alcohol to you know, give me the courage), I could totally do him.

So yeah, I don't know what it is.

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i find him scrumptious and charming, but i wouldn't sleep with him. i'm bi, mostly lesbian. just to, you know, throw my $.02 in.
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Excellent question. I use the word lesbian to describe myself because I am by far more attracted to women than men, but there are a few men out there that totally do it for me -- I suppose much how you describe yourself as straight but have that Rosario Dawson thing.

And I can't explain what it is about Jake either. But I'll tell you what I like about him. He has, in my view, the perfect male body -- long and lean with that teeny waist and slim hips, toned but not too bulky. And he's dark and gorgeous and has eyes that kill me dead, and the sexiest voice on the planet. The dorkiness and goofy sweet personality help, but honestly I felt this way about him before I knew anything about him as a person.

And I haven't slept with a guy in over a decade, but I would totally sleep with Jake. If I were single, I mean. Though actually, the ultimate fantasy would be a threesome with him and another guy. I wouldn't even have to be involved; I could just sit in the corner with a video camera. Despite how sexy he is on his own, there is something 1000% sexier about seeing him with another guy. When Noah kisses Luke on screen, and he gets all into it and does that low little moan/growl thing into his mouth? Oh my God, just kill me now.

Ahem. That may have been more detail than you were actually going for. Sorry. :blushing
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I'm not much of a help because I'm straight, bi-curious at most. :angel

As of now, I am such a Jake/Noah fan, it's not even funny! But when I first started to watch the show, I HATED Noah/Jake but was going gah gah over Van. Everything about him made me :wub Then one night, as of the moment me and my twin will say was one of the weirdest things, we decided to PBP Nuke ep. from the beginning to as many as we could in that amount of time we were online. We didn't get too far (I think beginning of Branson) before we had to go offline. Then, the next day we both said to each other "I'm in love with Jake Silbermann" out of NO WHERE! We were both hardcore Van fans and then in one night, we were immediatly drawned to Jake.

I really can't answer why so many lesbians are in love with Jake. My twin is bi and she loves Jake but we both used to love Van. My best friend in RL and my bestie on vh.net love Van. Maybe it's just one of the mysteries of the world or maybe it's just my families obssession with Italian men/women (tall, dark, etc.). :rotfl
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And I can't explain what it is about Jake either. But I'll tell you what I like about him. He has, in my view, the perfect male body -- long and lean with that teeny waist and slim hips, toned but not too bulky. And he's dark and gorgeous and has eyes that kill me dead, and the sexiest voice on the planet. The dorkiness and goofy sweet personality help, but honestly I felt this way about him before I knew anything about him as a person.
Best. Description. Of. Jake. EVER. :thud

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And I can't explain what it is about Jake either. But I'll tell you what I like about him. He has, in my view, the perfect male body -- long and lean with that teeny waist and slim hips, toned but not too bulky. And he's dark and gorgeous and has eyes that kill me dead, and the sexiest voice on the planet. The dorkiness and goofy sweet personality help, but honestly I felt this way about him before I knew anything about him as a person.
Best. Description. Of. Jake. EVER. :thud

:wub :wub :wub
I am absolutely no help here because I am straight but that description alone makes me melt. hehe

:needspics DEFINITELY!!

In case you haven't noticed yet: I am a total Noah-/Jakelover. :wub :cloud9
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Excellent question. I use the word lesbian to describe myself because I am by far more attracted to women than men, but there are a few men out there that totally do it for me -- I suppose much how you describe yourself as straight but have that Rosario Dawson thing.

And I can't explain what it is about Jake either. But I'll tell you what I like about him. He has, in my view, the perfect male body -- long and lean with that teeny waist and slim hips, toned but not too bulky. And he's dark and gorgeous and has eyes that kill me dead, and the sexiest voice on the planet. The dorkiness and goofy sweet personality help, but honestly I felt this way about him before I knew anything about him as a person.

And I haven't slept with a guy in over a decade, but I would totally sleep with Jake. If I were single, I mean. Though actually, the ultimate fantasy would be a threesome with him and another guy. I wouldn't even have to be involved; I could just sit in the corner with a video camera. Despite how sexy he is on his own, there is something 1000% sexier about seeing him with another guy. When Noah kisses Luke on screen, and he gets all into it and does that low little moan/growl thing into his mouth? Oh my God, just kill me now.

Ahem. That may have been more detail than you were actually going for. Sorry. :blushing
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And I can't explain what it is about Jake either. But I'll tell you what I like about him. He has, in my view, the perfect male body -- long and lean with that teeny waist and slim hips, toned but not too bulky. And he's dark and gorgeous and has eyes that kill me dead, and the sexiest voice on the planet. The dorkiness and goofy sweet personality help, but honestly I felt this way about him before I knew anything about him as a person.


:drool Um...yeah. That pretty much sums Jake up to the nth degree. *wibble*

Though actually, the ultimate fantasy would be a threesome with him and another guy. I wouldn't even have to be involved; I could just sit in the corner with a video camera. Despite how sexy he is on his own, there is something 1000% sexier about seeing him with another guy. When Noah kisses Luke on screen, and he gets all into it and does that low little moan/growl thing into his mouth? Oh my God, just kill me now.

And yeah...um, is it hot in here? And can I join you in your fantasy, pleeze?

And the kissing thing, THAT is so effing true. When Noah kisses Maddie, meh. When Noah kisses Luke-and both guys seem to go for it, and Jake does that purry, growly thing, well that's about the sexiest fucking thing ever, ever, ever. :thud :thud :thud

As a hmmm, 80% straight woman, watching boys kiss girls does nothing for me. Boys kissing boys, (and doing other things to each other) makes me all tingly. The straight/gay women slash phenomena is still something people don't talk about much, even though it's all over the interwebs. The Japanese get it, but I'm shocked that no one really markets it much. I mean lesbian sex has been part and parcel of male porn since it was invented.

I guess it has a lot to do with those in charge (men) and the fact that female sexuality and desires STILL makes people uncomfortable.

Oh, for a courageous partner and some start up money...slash novels and movies for the masses!

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As a hmmm, 80% straight woman, watching boys kiss girls does nothing for me. Boys kissing boys, (and doing other things to each other) makes me all tingly. The straight/gay women slash phenomena is still something people don't talk about much, even though it's all over the interwebs.
People keep asking me why I like it when two guys are kissing and touching each other. Especially my male friends ask me that. I usually ask them if they don't like it to watch two women making out with each other. That usually shuts them up.
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OT, but I'm probably the only person who doesn't find EDC attractive. I mean, I see that she's pretty, but I'm not all like "ZOMG she's so gorgeous!" about it. I'm more like, "Meh." And it may have much to do with the fact that I can't stand Vienna.

But then again, I'm just an asexual freak who wouldn't sleep with anyone, so my opinion is null and void.
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So indigo5 stole pretty much everything I would've said *temper tantrum* I've got watcha call a fluctuating sexual orientation--it sucks, by the way; if you don't have one, thank whatever god you worship--and right now it's bent towards girls. G has been awesomely supportive of this ( :kiss to G, btw) but she pointed to that picture of Shirtless!NoahJake in the hotel room in Branson and asked me if I would turn that down. I had to admit that I would not.

Guys--well, anything taller and/or stronger than me--tend to intimidate me, but he is just so not scary. He's got that adorable face that makes it seem like he's always seeing a cute little puppy somewhere in the room. He's got the perfect upper body with the right amount of muscle tone (kudos to him for successfully straddling the line between lanky/washboard and ridiculous/frightening...heehee, I said "straddling"). If only he'd get rid of the fuzz (HATE BODY HAIR) he'd be perfect ^.^ And maybe if he were less, you know, more than five years older than me >.>
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So...being a straight female, I don't have much to add to this conversation. But it is very, very interesting to think about! Thanks to those of you who are adding insight!
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Hee, glad everybody liked my description. All I did was tell it like it is. That boy, he slays me... :wub

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And yeah...um, is it hot in here? And can I join you in your fantasy, pleeze?

Absolutely! Pull up a chair! *grabs popcorn* :D

spookything
 
As a hmmm, 80% straight woman, watching boys kiss girls does nothing for me. Boys kissing boys, (and doing other things to each other) makes me all tingly. The straight/gay women slash phenomena is still something people don't talk about much, even though it's all over the interwebs. The Japanese get it, but I'm shocked that no one really markets it much. I mean lesbian sex has been part and parcel of male porn since it was invented.

I don't get that either! Why it's not marketed, I mean. I remember when Brokeback Mountain came out, there was all this surprise in the articles about it about how popular it was among straight women. And it's like hello, two beautiful boys macking on each other, how can you go wrong? This is not difficult. People are silly.

spookything
 
I guess it has a lot to do with those in charge (men) and the fact that female sexuality and desires STILL makes people uncomfortable.

Well yes. There is that. *sigh*

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Oh, for a courageous partner and some start up money...slash novels and movies for the masses!

I can't help with the money (or the movies), but I'm in! The first best-selling slash novel empire, co-written by you & me! Let's do it! Pick me pick me pick me! *jumps up and down all excited* :D
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Okay so I just found this like now (Hai Robin!)

And I really think that research needs to go into the psycho-sexual phenomenon that is "Lesbos-wanna-lick-Jake-itis". He is just so...(insert your own mildly pervy word/sound here).

The weird thing is I LOVE Van, adore him like kittens, but I just want him to be my BGB (best gay boyfriend),
Jake on the other hand is just imo some of the best that the male species has to offer. I do think that his lack of bulk has a lot to do with it, but it's not just that. He's smart without being pretentious, dorky without being a loser, genuinely humble and you know he's ever so grateful for every opportunity he's received. And the fact that he loves his co-stars to bits makes him even better.

In my dream world I would love to see Jake, Van, Billy, Ewa, Alex and Tala in one big old moresome where I run the steady cam and the craft services table. :threesome :threesome

I don't know if any of this helped figure out the issue, but I sure as hell love talking about it!
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In my dream world I would love to see Jake, Van, Billy, Ewa, Alex and Tala in one big old moresome where I run the steady cam and the craft services table.


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I SOMEHOW MISSED THIS POST. HAI, ROBIN, HAIIIII!!!

Too bad I have nothing constructive to add to this. Cause I'm straight, though if Ewa or Alex Chando declared their undying love for me, I wouldn't say no.

So really the only thing I have to add is: Nnngggggghhhh Silbermann NNNNNNNNGGGHHHHGGUNFUNFUNFUNFUNFUNF.



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Jake on the other hand is just imo some of the best that the male species has to offer. I do think that his lack of bulk has a lot to do with it, but it's not just that. He's smart without being pretentious, dorky without being a loser, genuinely humble and you know he's ever so grateful for every opportunity he's received. And the fact that he loves his co-stars to bits makes him even better.

This is like...the best description of Jake ever. EVER.
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What Rachel said.

No. Really. That's pretty much why I think lesbians are attracted to Jake.

And I'm attracted on a few levels. Base prettiness level, of course. Intelligence. Sense of humor. Though the more I know of him, the more I kinda just want him to sleep with... :mouthshut :mouthshut

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Ailene has a total free pass, though. Total. :D
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What Rachel said.

No. Really. That's pretty much why I think lesbians are attracted to Jake.

And I'm attracted on a few levels. Base prettiness level, of course. Intelligence. Sense of humor. Though the more I know of him, the more I kinda just want him to sleep with... :mouthshut :mouthshut

:rotfl

Ailene has a total free pass, though. Total. :D
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Hee, glad everybody liked my description. All I did was tell it like it is. That boy, he slays me... :wub

spookything
 
And yeah...um, is it hot in here? And can I join you in your fantasy, pleeze?

Absolutely! Pull up a chair! *grabs popcorn* :D

spookything
 
As a hmmm, 80% straight woman, watching boys kiss girls does nothing for me. Boys kissing boys, (and doing other things to each other) makes me all tingly. The straight/gay women slash phenomena is still something people don't talk about much, even though it's all over the interwebs. The Japanese get it, but I'm shocked that no one really markets it much. I mean lesbian sex has been part and parcel of male porn since it was invented.

I don't get that either! Why it's not marketed, I mean. I remember when Brokeback Mountain came out, there was all this surprise in the articles about it about how popular it was among straight women. And it's like hello, two beautiful boys macking on each other, how can you go wrong? This is not difficult. People are silly.

spookything
 
I guess it has a lot to do with those in charge (men) and the fact that female sexuality and desires STILL makes people uncomfortable.

Well yes. There is that. *sigh*

spookything
 
Oh, for a courageous partner and some start up money...slash novels and movies for the masses!

I can't help with the money (or the movies), but I'm in! The first best-selling slash novel empire, co-written by you & me! Let's do it! Pick me pick me pick me! *jumps up and down all excited* :D
I don't get that either! Why it's not marketed, I mean. I remember when Brokeback Mountain came out, there was all this surprise in the articles about it about how popular it was among straight women. And it's like hello, two beautiful boys macking on each other, how can you go wrong? This is not difficult. People are silly.

People are hilarious. And stupid. If it doesn't fit into a preconcieved box, they deny. Although I remeber when I first discovered slash on the intewebs it was like I DIED and when to heaven-'cuz I thought I was weird. Little did I know.

And oh, would I love to form a publishing house with you and Grinder, and Carolina Blue and a zillion other great writers. I't interesting too, how slash written by women is different from say, novels written by gay men. I think we love the hurt/comfort more, and are as not as interested in sexytimes. (Not that I don't love the sexytimes.) But I think you get what I'm saying. ;)
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Hee, glad everybody liked my description. All I did was tell it like it is. That boy, he slays me... :wub

spookything
 
And yeah...um, is it hot in here? And can I join you in your fantasy, pleeze?

Absolutely! Pull up a chair! *grabs popcorn* :D

spookything
 
As a hmmm, 80% straight woman, watching boys kiss girls does nothing for me. Boys kissing boys, (and doing other things to each other) makes me all tingly. The straight/gay women slash phenomena is still something people don't talk about much, even though it's all over the interwebs. The Japanese get it, but I'm shocked that no one really markets it much. I mean lesbian sex has been part and parcel of male porn since it was invented.

I don't get that either! Why it's not marketed, I mean. I remember when Brokeback Mountain came out, there was all this surprise in the articles about it about how popular it was among straight women. And it's like hello, two beautiful boys macking on each other, how can you go wrong? This is not difficult. People are silly.

spookything
 
I guess it has a lot to do with those in charge (men) and the fact that female sexuality and desires STILL makes people uncomfortable.

Well yes. There is that. *sigh*

spookything
 
Oh, for a courageous partner and some start up money...slash novels and movies for the masses!

I can't help with the money (or the movies), but I'm in! The first best-selling slash novel empire, co-written by you & me! Let's do it! Pick me pick me pick me! *jumps up and down all excited* :D
I don't get that either! Why it's not marketed, I mean. I remember when Brokeback Mountain came out, there was all this surprise in the articles about it about how popular it was among straight women. And it's like hello, two beautiful boys macking on each other, how can you go wrong? This is not difficult. People are silly.

People are hilarious. And stupid. If it doesn't fit into a preconcieved box, they deny. Although I remeber when I first discovered slash on the intewebs it was like I DIED and when to heaven-'cuz I thought I was weird. Little did I know.

And oh, would I love to form a publishing house with you and Grinder, and Carolina Blue and a zillion other great writers. I't interesting too, how slash written by women is different from say, novels written by gay men. I think we love the hurt/comfort more, and are as not as interested in sexytimes. (Not that I don't love the sexytimes.) But I think you get what I'm saying. ;)
SAME, It's crazy in the sense that people seem to want to ignore the fact that women are actually INTO it, like others have said, it's common knowledge that straight men love lesbian porn, but people refuse to acknowledge the reverse. And finding a M/M romance novel(or ANY M/M novel is down right impossible
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It's crazy in the sense that people seem to want to ignore the fact that women are actually INTO it, like others have said, it's common knowledge that straight men love lesbian porn, but people refuse to acknowledge the reverse. And finding a M/M romance novel(or ANY M/M novel is down right impossible
Uggg, it's SO annoying! And then some people even believe because you're into M/M that you are gay yourself. Of course their is fans where who are of the women-liking population, but it's not always the case and it gets annoying when you're questioned on the fact more than once.

There is this little section in our local mall's bookstore for Gay/Lesbians. The lesbian novels/"Sex" books take up half the sections shelves.
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It's crazy in the sense that people seem to want to ignore the fact that women are actually INTO it, like others have said, it's common knowledge that straight men love lesbian porn, but people refuse to acknowledge the reverse. And finding a M/M romance novel(or ANY M/M novel is down right impossible
Uggg, it's SO annoying! And then some people even believe because you're into M/M that you are gay yourself. Of course their is fans where who are of the women-liking population, but it's not always the case and it gets annoying when you're questioned on the fact more than once.

There is this little section in our local mall's bookstore for Gay/Lesbians. The lesbian novels/"Sex" books take up half the sections shelves.
UGH! I knows!

Let me see now

My sisters, mother,father ext

All think I'm gay

Because of my "obession"

Now, I don't know what I am myself atm, still figuring that one out but, really why can't they accept the fact that some woman LOVE M/M
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Sep 2 2009, 02:37 AM
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It's crazy in the sense that people seem to want to ignore the fact that women are actually INTO it, like others have said, it's common knowledge that straight men love lesbian porn, but people refuse to acknowledge the reverse. And finding a M/M romance novel(or ANY M/M novel is down right impossible
Uggg, it's SO annoying! And then some people even believe because you're into M/M that you are gay yourself. Of course their is fans where who are of the women-liking population, but it's not always the case and it gets annoying when you're questioned on the fact more than once.

There is this little section in our local mall's bookstore for Gay/Lesbians. The lesbian novels/"Sex" books take up half the sections shelves.
UGH! I knows!

Let me see now

My sisters, mother,father ext

All think I'm gay

Because of my "obession"

Now, I don't know what I am myself atm, still figuring that one out but, really why can't they accept the fact that some woman LOVE M/M
Mostly my parents ask me. My brothers just snicker and laugh about my gay boys. I used to be into BBM so it was much worse than being into a Soap where the majority of characters besides Nuke are straight.

You're 18 like me. Me and my best friend think that at this age, everyone is experimenting, growing, and question themselves on EVERYTHING. Not just sexuality. And until we discover and put ourselves out there, we aren't certain. Only time can tell, right? ;)
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The day that was much more than just Ice Cream. 1/12/09

* Credit to Moey & Ronnie!
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