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Other OTPs?; Let's make a fleet of ships! *rimshot*
Topic Started: Aug 15 2009, 09:41 PM (3,212 Views)
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It's fun to watch other OTP and soaps but abandoning the boys, well thats just CRAZY. No other couple will ever have the chemistry that Van and Jake have they are just soooo comfortable with each other and respect each other, the just shine together. Oh well thier loss I guess.
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Aug 27 2009, 08:14 PM
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Aug 27 2009, 08:11 PM
OK I might be stupid but what is Kradam :wacko
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I get really sad when people bash Nuke too...I don't know if it is because I'm insecure or whatever, but I feel like when they do that, they are bashing ME too since I'm still a fan. And I think that that is what makes it worse.

And I don't like when people ditch just cause they think the show isn't at its best right now. In my opinion, the show has gotten a lot better as of late than it was before. And if they keep that up then hopefully Nuke will get better, too. And I don't even think that Nuke is bad right now...I'm actually excited for the upcoming storyline with Mason...and I can't remember being as excited about one of their storylines since Damian came back. And even if it ends up not being very good or as good as fans want it to be, Van and Jake are still gonna be amazing. They always are. They always take what they are given and make the best out of it, and that is what keeps me watching.

As far as other OTP's go, here are some of mine:
Luke/Noah
Link/Zelda (I'm a nerd!)
Squall/Rinoa (from FF8)
Buffy/Angel
Marco/Dylan
Ron/Hermione
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Aug 27 2009, 07:55 PM
But who will be left on the Nuke fandoms if no one tries to once care about their favorite OTP?

P.S. Sorry as well Rach, Kish just puts a bad flavor in my mouth.
Me. I will be. And I'll bring all my fic to play, too.

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Aug 27 2009, 09:18 PM
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Aug 27 2009, 07:55 PM
But who will be left on the Nuke fandoms if no one tries to once care about their favorite OTP?

P.S. Sorry as well Rach, Kish just puts a bad flavor in my mouth.
Me. I will be. And I'll bring all my fic to play, too.

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And yes, Rachel, :grouphug , sorry.
No other fandom in the history of fandoms will ever have the talent in fic writing that Nuke does :wub
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i think a lot of people have fall OTPs and summer OTPs, even if a show such as ATWT goes all year round. I don't know if it means their original OTPs are any less valid in their lives, but sometimes people need to change up to not feel stifled.
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Aug 27 2009, 09:49 PM
i think a lot of people have fall OTPs and summer OTPs, even if a show such as ATWT goes all year round. I don't know if it means their original OTPs are any less valid in their lives, but sometimes people need to change up to not feel stifled.
My problem isn't that they're now on a new ship or finding other waters to sail in, it's the fact that it appears like they're completely abandoning ship and are saying how much the service onboard sucks these days. It's the, "that ship wasn't going anywhere and this new shiny ship is totally going places and true it's following in my first ships waves, it's totally making new ones of it's own," that really bothers me.

I mean, what happened to the people that stood by through the kissing ban and the Ameera storyline and the election fiasco and the never going to have sex are they?!?!? cockblocks? I know most of them are still around but now that the writing is tanking more than usual and we're being bombarded with Meg, some of these people are just giving up. And that bothers me because if the fandom can stick together through all of the shit before now, there isn't any reason they shouldn't be able to do that now. Instead, they're latching on to the new shiny, which is fine, but they're doing it in a completely classless and sometimes insulting manner.

idk, that's just my .02 on the matter.
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i'm in agreement with you on that, but i kinda think you answered your own question with your question. People like to fight the good fight, people like to have a cause. That cause was taken away. True, we don't see as much of them as we would like, but from a kissing ban to actually having sex? It's this huge win, and I don't think everyone was prepared to stop waving their martyring-capes-of-doom-gloom-and-justice. Okay, that's harsh. But does it make sense? Who doesn't like the feeling that they're involved in something important? Like they're bucking the system? If a group defines themselves by being in opposition to something, what happens once that opposition isn't there?
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In the water I am beautiful."
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Well, personally. The only thing I'm pissed off about are the fans (who once loved Nuke so hard and so true) being in their brand new shiny ships. Having a freaking blast using their shiny new cannons to blow up Nuke's poor beaten down ship. Leaving them to drown sad and alone. :(

What is the POINT in that?
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Aug 27 2009, 10:14 PM
Well, personally. The only thing I'm pissed off about are the fans (who once loved Nuke so hard and so true) being in their brand new shiny ships. Having a freaking blast using their shiny new cannons to blow up Nuke's poor beaten down ship. Leaving them to drown sad and alone. :(

What is the POINT in that?
you got me there. that i don't get.
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In the water I am beautiful."
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Aug 27 2009, 10:18 PM
andyfeltrad
Aug 27 2009, 10:14 PM
Well, personally. The only thing I'm pissed off about are the fans (who once loved Nuke so hard and so true) being in their brand new shiny ships. Having a freaking blast using their shiny new cannons to blow up Nuke's poor beaten down ship. Leaving them to drown sad and alone. :(

What is the POINT in that?
you got me there. that i don't get.
I think I'll put this on the many shelves that I have titled "mysteries of the universe".

I already got rid some of that poison on my flist. Hopefully the rest that I kept on there will back off. :( I really like these people, so I don't wanna cut them.
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Oh and LIS! I keep forgetting to answer you about the spit strand in the first kiss.

It's right when Noah kisses him and Luke pulls back. It's subtle but it's there. :D I don't know how much you can see it on the youtube clip, but on the good quality download version I have you can see it a whole lot better.

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I don't understand the concept of abandoning ships. Hell, I left Harry Potter fandom awhile ago, but I still get up in arms when someone talks smack about Harry/Hermione or James/Sirius. Gundam Wing's been off the air for nearly a decade, and I still squee over Duo/Hilde.

Personally I feel like our fandoms/OTPs/etc are extensions of ourselves, or at least reflections of ourselves, so when people abandon them carelessly for The Next Big Thing, it kinda reveals how shallow and fair-weather that person probably is. In which case let's not waste time complaining about it and just enjoy our trusty, rusty Nuke ship. Quality before quantity, right?

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Aug 27 2009, 11:02 PM
I don't understand the concept of abandoning ships. Hell, I left Harry Potter fandom awhile ago, but I still get up in arms when someone talks smack about Harry/Hermione or James/Sirius. Gundam Wing's been off the air for nearly a decade, and I still squee over Duo/Hilde.

Personally I feel like our fandoms/OTPs/etc are extensions of ourselves, or at least reflections of ourselves, so when people abandon them carelessly for The Next Big Thing, it kinda reveals how shallow and fair-weather that person probably is. In which case let's not waste time complaining about it and just enjoy our trusty, rusty Nuke ship. Quality before quantity, right?

Word, Honey, word.

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Except I'm not a big member of LJ but I've experienced a lot of (sorry the next statements) Nuke hate from AI fans who are following Kradam. Do you know how devasted I was when my twin on vh.net said that she's only going to watch the Nuke ep. on YT (she used to watch the entire show, everyday like I did..) and that she's leaving the forum because she needs something new and exciting like Kradam? I couldn't believe it.

OMG. YES. THIS. YES THIS TIMES A MILLION. TIMES ELEVENTY BILLION. TIMES A TRILLION MILLION BILLION.

I thought I was the only one who felt this way.

I've had REALLY REALLY REALLY good friends leave the Nuke fandom for Kradam as well.

I have bitten my tongue bloody so I wouldn't say anything. And quietly mourned.

It's fucking sad. A couple that once meant so much to you, you can just abandon so fast. :crying :crying :crying :crying :crying

All my past OTPs have special places in my heart. But I've never seen people drop a couple as fast as Nuke for other people. And then just leave them there on dirty streets, all stepped on and broken. :sadpanda :sadpanda :sadpanda :sadpanda :sadpanda
I have bitton my tounge SOOO many times after the whole "Kradam" ship started. I've gotten into an ARUGEMENT with friends that I used to have a blast with on vh.net just because I said something about Nuke and something wrong about Kradam. Now, I can't even mention it to them because they assume an arugement is going to start or there comment back to me is a simple "yeah."

The sad part of it all, most of them don't even realize that what they're doing is everything againist what they used to believe. That Nuke was almost everything to them. That Nuke that helped them come out, save themselves, bring escape from the outside world. All for a ship that doesn't even exsist.

And then there's a part of me that's worried that if they leave for w/e ship they think is "exciting" ends, will I still be willing to support people who gave up so easily if they come back?

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All my past OTPs have special places in my heart. But I've never seen people drop a couple as fast as Nuke for other people. And then just leave them there on dirty streets, all stepped on and broken.


This statement explains everything I've felt. :sadpanda
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OK...not to sound like snotty or bossy or whatever...but this thread is getting uber depressing. :crying Can we please go back to the topic at hand and remember that even though there are people that might have disembarked on the Nuke ship, there are still wonderful, wonderful people left, and instead of mourning our losses more than we already have, let's begin to embrace who is left and go back to remembering what brought us all together in the first place...Luke and Noah and Van and Jake.

I seriously love you all and I will never leave! :grouphug :grouphug :grouphug
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Aug 27 2009, 11:22 PM
OK...not to sound like snotty or bossy or whatever...but this thread is getting uber depressing. :crying Can we please go back to the topic at hand and remember that even though there are people that might have disembarked on the Nuke ship, there are still wonderful, wonderful people left, and instead of mourning our losses more than we already have, let's begin to embrace who is left and go back to remembering what brought us all together in the first place...Luke and Noah and Van and Jake.

I seriously love you all and I will never leave! :grouphug :grouphug :grouphug
Sorry, bb.

But I guess we just needed to let it all out. Us people who have been burned and wounded. It feels good to mourn and try to move on.

I'm glad you'll never leave! Cause I sort of really want to marry Camp Valencia and I still really want to know, why Noah is acting the way he is. *nudge nudge nuuuuuuuuuddgggeee*
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Mk.

I don't think I mentioned Rosette/Chrono from Chrono Crusade, did I? The ending to the manga almost had me in tears. So beautiful.
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By the way, who was the one who mentioned Link and Zelda? Cause I fucking love you for it.
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Aug 27 2009, 11:02 PM
I don't understand the concept of abandoning ships. Hell, I left Harry Potter fandom awhile ago, but I still get up in arms when someone talks smack about Harry/Hermione or James/Sirius. Gundam Wing's been off the air for nearly a decade, and I still squee over Duo/Hilde.

Personally I feel like our fandoms/OTPs/etc are extensions of ourselves, or at least reflections of ourselves, so when people abandon them carelessly for The Next Big Thing, it kinda reveals how shallow and fair-weather that person probably is. In which case let's not waste time complaining about it and just enjoy our trusty, rusty Nuke ship. Quality before quantity, right?

Ok, I'll admit that I was part of a BBM forum for 2 years before I found Nuke. That thread was everything to me and I talked and made friends were people that were amazing. And then I left, for Nuke. It wasn't quickly and without notice, it was slow. I kind of knew it wouldn't last forever because it being a movie, as the months passed, nothing changed but I still believed I'd be part of that ship forever. Then, Heath died and everything changed. So many people left because they couldn't bare to be part of a forum that once cared about Heath more than anything.

But even with leaving, there will be times I'll sign back on and visit. Nothing has changed but I need to see whose still there. I'm still friends with some of them on FB. If I post, they'll bring me back in with open arms. I've only met two good friends on that site, one who followed me to Nukedom and one who didn't. The one who didn't, I haven't talked much to. But I never once said that what they still loved was wrong. And funny thing is, I talked to him yesterday. Same old kid I remember back in '07.

If someone leaves a fandom, all I ask for is you do it in the way that won't hurt the people and fandom you once loved.
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OK...not to sound like snotty or bossy or whatever...but this thread is getting uber depressing. :crying Can we please go back to the topic at hand and remember that even though there are people that might have disembarked on the Nuke ship, there are still wonderful, wonderful people left, and instead of mourning our losses more than we already have, let's begin to embrace who is left and go back to remembering what brought us all together in the first place...Luke and Noah and Van and Jake.

I seriously love you all and I will never leave! :grouphug :grouphug :grouphug
Sorry, bb.

But I guess we just needed to let it all out. Us people who have been burned and wounded. It feels good to mourn and try to move on.

I'm glad you'll never leave! Cause I sort of really want to marry Camp Valencia and I still really want to know, why Noah is acting the way he is. *nudge nudge nuuuuuuuuuddgggeee*
You don't have to apologize...I completely understand the need to mourn and rant and let it out...I just didn't want it to get out of hand! No need to dwell on bad things when there are good things too, yeah?

And I'm working on chapter six now! I'm just taking a little break! And Noah is quite intriguing at this point, huh? Both boys have a lot of work to do...stubborn, stubborn, stubborn...and I can't wait to write the big reveal!!!


And BTW, the Link and Zelda was me. :blushing And I flove you back!
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Oopsy, my badness. Like others, I think I needed to let out a bit of steam!

Back to our OTPs! :P

Anyone watch "House" or "Medium" because I don't watch a lot of TV shows besides ATWT, Y&R, and random Nick shows. :blushing
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Aug 27 2009, 11:22 PM
OK...not to sound like snotty or bossy or whatever...but this thread is getting uber depressing. :crying Can we please go back to the topic at hand and remember that even though there are people that might have disembarked on the Nuke ship, there are still wonderful, wonderful people left, and instead of mourning our losses more than we already have, let's begin to embrace who is left and go back to remembering what brought us all together in the first place...Luke and Noah and Van and Jake.

I seriously love you all and I will never leave! :grouphug :grouphug :grouphug
Sorry, bb.

But I guess we just needed to let it all out. Us people who have been burned and wounded. It feels good to mourn and try to move on.

I'm glad you'll never leave! Cause I sort of really want to marry Camp Valencia and I still really want to know, why Noah is acting the way he is. *nudge nudge nuuuuuuuuuddgggeee*
You don't have to apologize...I completely understand the need to mourn and rant and let it out...I just didn't want it to get out of hand! No need to dwell on bad things when there are good things too, yeah?

And I'm working on chapter six now! I'm just taking a little break! And Noah is quite intriguing at this point, huh? Both boys have a lot of work to do...stubborn, stubborn, stubborn...and I can't wait to write the big reveal!!!


And BTW, the Link and Zelda was me. :blushing And I flove you back!
A CV update would make this entire month a lot less shitty for me that's for sure. :D :D :D

And Link/Zelda :ftw :ftw :ftw :ftw

I played my fingers bloody on those games. But I barely made a dent in the Ocarina of Time. :crying :crying :crying :crying
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Aug 27 2009, 10:35 PM
Oh and LIS! I keep forgetting to answer you about the spit strand in the first kiss.

It's right when Noah kisses him and Luke pulls back. It's subtle but it's there. :D I don't know how much you can see it on the youtube clip, but on the good quality download version I have you can see it a whole lot better.

I saw it, I saw it! I had to put it on HQ and look verrrrry close but I did see the small spit strand. It wasn't as in your face as the 3rd kiss spit strand but it was there :P
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Aug 27 2009, 11:36 PM
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Aug 27 2009, 11:22 PM
OK...not to sound like snotty or bossy or whatever...but this thread is getting uber depressing. :crying Can we please go back to the topic at hand and remember that even though there are people that might have disembarked on the Nuke ship, there are still wonderful, wonderful people left, and instead of mourning our losses more than we already have, let's begin to embrace who is left and go back to remembering what brought us all together in the first place...Luke and Noah and Van and Jake.

I seriously love you all and I will never leave! :grouphug :grouphug :grouphug
Sorry, bb.

But I guess we just needed to let it all out. Us people who have been burned and wounded. It feels good to mourn and try to move on.

I'm glad you'll never leave! Cause I sort of really want to marry Camp Valencia and I still really want to know, why Noah is acting the way he is. *nudge nudge nuuuuuuuuuddgggeee*
You don't have to apologize...I completely understand the need to mourn and rant and let it out...I just didn't want it to get out of hand! No need to dwell on bad things when there are good things too, yeah?

And I'm working on chapter six now! I'm just taking a little break! And Noah is quite intriguing at this point, huh? Both boys have a lot of work to do...stubborn, stubborn, stubborn...and I can't wait to write the big reveal!!!


And BTW, the Link and Zelda was me. :blushing And I flove you back!
A CV update would make this entire month a lot less shitty for me that's for sure. :D :D :D

And Link/Zelda :ftw :ftw :ftw :ftw

I played my fingers bloody on those games. But I barely made a dent in the Ocarina of Time. :crying :crying :crying :crying
Aww, I'm sorry this month has been awful for you! I hope it gets better! :blushkisses

And you haven't played much OoT?!?! I'm so sad for you! That is quite possibly the best game ever made! Zelda or otherwise...any chance you could try again one day?
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