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At a Crossroad; fitness
Topic Started: Mar 1 2011, 12:07 PM (309 Views)
TSL
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No daylight, I'm too weak to face it!
1. Continue to get stronger without Creatine and risk possible injury....

2. Start taking Creatine again and get stronger....

3. Just call it a day and start to maintain the strength I've built....


If I could do #1 without the injuries part, that would be ideal.... But I've got to evaluate myself over the next 2 weeks to see if that's going to be possible... My workout yesterday SUCKED and I'm hoping it was just an isolated incident because of fatigue...

If it does end up coming down to 2 vs 3, I may just go with 3 and call it a day... Which I REALLY don't want to do... I've come too far to quit now... :lightsabre:
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Maybe I should already know this, but creatine?
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It is a recovery supplement. it is a substance your body creates naturally and it aids in protecting tendons and muscle recovery (allegedly).

I don't really want to go back to taking it because it's not 100% scientifically proven, it makes you bloated, and most important, it's expensive as hell at GNC or other Vitamin stores...

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Honestly, I despise creatine supplementation. And it doesn't aid recovery in the sense that you described. In simple terms, creatine helps the body to produce ATP via the ATP-PCr system, which is what it used during most anaerobic workouts (which is what you are using if you're training for strength). So, your muscles are able to perform at a higher level sooner because they are aided in recovering the necessary energy. I'm not sure why you're correlating stopping creatine supplementation with potential injury (aside from the recovery aspect), but you should have ample time for recovery if you are maintaining a proper workout program and not overstressing the same muscle groups on consecutive workouts.

Furthermore, there are no long-term studies pertaining to creatine supplementation, but there has been speculation about it leading to dehydration and cramping issues, and more seriously liver/kidney damage and kidney stones.

I say screw the creatine.
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DarkCloudLives

I know nothing of what your needs are, so I leave this in the place of actual help:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daXQN58sv1s
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Gappler Baki beat up a gorilla thing at age 13 if you aren't even on the level where you can face off against an adult silver back unarmed and win you should probably just cut your losses and refocus on training your kids or they'll end up all soft like Gohan.
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Weidleface
Mar 1 2011, 12:41 PM
Honestly, I despise creatine supplementation. And it doesn't aid recovery in the sense that you described. In simple terms, creatine helps the body to produce ATP via the ATP-PCr system, which is what it used during most anaerobic workouts (which is what you are using if you're training for strength). So, your muscles are able to perform at a higher level sooner because they are aided in recovering the necessary energy. I'm not sure why you're correlating stopping creatine supplementation with potential injury (aside from the recovery aspect), but you should have ample time for recovery if you are maintaining a proper workout program and not overstressing the same muscle groups on consecutive workouts.

Furthermore, there are no long-term studies pertaining to creatine supplementation, but there has been speculation about it leading to dehydration and cramping issues, and more seriously liver/kidney damage and kidney stones.

I say screw the creatine.
I am correlating it to the recovery aspect... Even with 7-8 days of rest, I've noticed that with creatine, I ache less during workouts which has always led me to believe that I was better recovered on it than off it...

There are quite a few studies on it (as I'm sure you are aware). One in particular that I read dated back to the 1930s... And most of them point to the theory that what people believe it does, it actually doesn't do all that well. That's why I'm not really motivated to use it...

But I cannot deny that on days where I've taken it properly during recovery, I come back to lift with less strain and ache specifically in my shoulders... Maybe it's a placebo effect.
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I'm going to operate on the assumption that you're already using a protein shake, since that's step one in port-workout supplementation. The next thing I'd recommend in regards to soreness is looking into supplementing a little extra glutamine. If memory serves me, it's not that expensive of a supplement, especially in comparison to creatine.
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Weidleface
Mar 1 2011, 05:21 PM
I'm going to operate on the assumption that you're already using a protein shake, since that's step one in port-workout supplementation. The next thing I'd recommend in regards to soreness is looking into supplementing a little extra glutamine. If memory serves me, it's not that expensive of a supplement, especially in comparison to creatine.
Cool. I can deal with soreness after a workout. I'm talking about pain during sets, though. I've been nervous because I can feel my shoulders straining during the higher weight sets.... I don't want to pop something... Will glutamine address that?

And yeah, I usually get 2-3 protein shakes a day.
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Mar 1 2011, 08:48 PM
Weidleface
Mar 1 2011, 05:21 PM
I'm going to operate on the assumption that you're already using a protein shake, since that's step one in port-workout supplementation. The next thing I'd recommend in regards to soreness is looking into supplementing a little extra glutamine. If memory serves me, it's not that expensive of a supplement, especially in comparison to creatine.
Cool. I can deal with soreness after a workout. I'm talking about pain during sets, though. I've been nervous because I can feel my shoulders straining during the higher weight sets.... I don't want to pop something... Will glutamine address that?

And yeah, I usually get 2-3 protein shakes a day.
It should. There's no super definitive information out yet, but it has been shown to promote protein synthesis and increase GH production, which would certainly aid in recovery. It's worth a shot. I'd say go to GNC, try some out, and if it doesn't work take advantage of their 30 day return policy. ;)
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Cool. Thanks as always man.
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