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| I hate my job | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Feb 4 2010, 05:09 PM (396 Views) | |
| nate | Feb 4 2010, 05:09 PM Post #1 |
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I got hired for a middle aged woman with no college degree position and get paid crap for it. At one of my schools (I'm the only speech para at any of the schools I work at), I teach more kids and work more hands on with them than her. And not by any small margin, either. I do little else but teach there. At another, I do all of her paperwork. All of the annoying hoops and crap they have to jump through. Between the two, all I'm missing are meetings and I feel like I do just about everything they do. And the best part is, the head of the department was giving me some guilt trip crap about the fact I don't plan to do this for the rest of my life. OF COURSE YOU WANT ME TO STAY LONG TERM. I'm so absurdly over-qualified for this, it not only makes me uncomfortable, but the teachers I work with, too. No, the best part is, I don't have any other goddamned plan for the rest of my life or job I can get. I don't even have the ability to get my foot in a door. And I get the feeling going back to school will only leave me where I already am with more wasted time and debt. Now, I know some of you have worse jobs and just as bleak outlooks and I'm not trying to sound like I've got it the worst. I'm just saying I'm absolutely SICK of it. "Go to college, get your degree." I went to one of the best colleges in the country and it's done nothing for me. I work my ass off at every job I've ever held and it's done nothing for me. I don't know what the hell I've been working so hard for all this time. I could've done absolutely nothing with my life and be at the same freaking place. I don't even know what I want to do with my life at this point. I just don't see any way out of it. And the next time I hear a politician talking about creating jobs or the economy rebounding or trying to empathize with this, I'm going to lose it. 6 months of unemployment until I had to go back to my high school summer job (not even my college one) and then this was the first real interview I got. 8 months of applications and this was it. You're not my buddy, you're not dealing with this like the rest of us are, so don't even play that card for applause. |
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| TSL | Feb 4 2010, 05:57 PM Post #2 |
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Have you put any dedicated thought into what you WANT to do? You say you don't know... But what things would you like to do? If I could offer you any number of jobs, what would you want to do? May do you some good to reflect on that and then orchestrate your search around the desire. |
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| nate | Feb 4 2010, 06:00 PM Post #3 |
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That's what I used to do. I even have a list of 5 jobs up on the fridge right now and the path it would take to get to them. Then, I learned that the job market doesn't give a damn what I want to do or what I'd be good at. |
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| Ocyd | Feb 4 2010, 06:02 PM Post #4 |
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It's cause he's black ain't it? Go ahead and say it you racist sob. A black man can't be president, instead of trying to couch your hatered in some imagined tale of woe. The "qualified people" for that job can't have it because of all you college people flooding the unskilled worker pools. Got's the migrants on one side and you self rigchus on teh other, instead of using that education to make more jobs by creating a business or sumthin I don't know what they be teach'n up there....wait weren't you a political major, run for an office and live above it all like you been trained to. Taking jobs from decent folk then complaining it's not up to you lofty abilities. You should be ashamed. That ^ or See what happens when you mock/deny the existence of the illuminati :lol: Edited by Ocyd, Feb 4 2010, 07:01 PM.
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| TSL | Feb 4 2010, 09:35 PM Post #5 |
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yeah. I've found that hiring managers in many businesses are not qualified to be such. It's to the point these days where you pretty much have to know someone to get in where you want to go. Age discrimination also seems to run wild. I remember when I first took my last job, my boss told me not to volunteer my age because I was so young to have the position I had. And it was great advice. I was privileged to have worked with her for the 5yrs I did. She taught me alot. 8) In my current job, I've found myself in situations where people are surprised that I'm not retarded. Sometimes I want to say, "Yo, I've led over 60 men in combat and brought all my boys home alive. I think I can handle myself in a cotton pickin staff meeting without doing something foolish." :lol: I'll give you the same advice I gave my cousin who is getting ready to graduate. Don't quit. No matter how frustrating it is. Keep pushing for what you want. Somebody somewhere will recognize your abilities. Trust me... not all of us hiring managers are crazy. 8) Edited by TSL, Feb 4 2010, 09:37 PM.
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| nate | Feb 4 2010, 09:39 PM Post #6 |
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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: |
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| nate | Feb 4 2010, 09:46 PM Post #7 |
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Here's the problem with that: No one's even getting a chance to see my abilities. They see recent college graduate and into the waste basket I go. I made it to a whopping 2 real interviews out of 8 months of constant applications. Both with the school division I currently work for and both for similar positions. Heck, the school system that I freaking graduated from never even called me back. Not only did I go there but my mother even works for them. And not even an interview. |
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| thinkfreemind | Feb 5 2010, 12:10 AM Post #8 |
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The problem is that you are overqualified, along with every other college graduate, for the wages that business owners want to pay to have a job done. However, at the same time, there are people who are more qualified than you who will do that job for the same amount of money. So, you start to think that if you went back to school and got a PhD, then you'd be the highly qualified worker who could at least get that underpaying position. This is an error in logic though, since all you'd really be doing is going deeper into debt on the path to becoming so overqualified that the company will still not hire you, now because you'll cost them too much money when compared to the guy who knows less but is just smart enough to be trained to do the work. George Carlin, my hero, said it best though. This is the truth from a man who knew what is really going on in this world. |
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| TSL | Feb 5 2010, 09:30 AM Post #9 |
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TFM, you make a valid point. Some companies would rather waste money on hiring and firing cheap labor than investing in a person who can actually do the job with excellence. The reason is their short-sightedness. They see an opportunity to save $10k up front by hiring the cheaper person. But then they spend $30k hiring and firing that person and all the lazy follow ups after them. Nate, have you considered working with a headhunter? |
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| squid5580 | Feb 5 2010, 01:58 PM Post #10 |
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I don't think just because they spent more time in school that automatically makes them more qualified or harder workers. I would hazard a guess and say that probably half of those cheap laborers work harder than the more expensive higher educated worker simply because they are going to be more grateful for what they get. Opposed to thinking they are underappreciated. |
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| TSL | Feb 5 2010, 03:31 PM Post #11 |
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What I'm talking about isn't about education. Having been a hiring manager, I understand that it's about hiring the best person to do the job efficiently. Many times, I've seen companies pass over a person who wouldn't take the insulting salary they wanted to offer but then hired a dirtbag that would take the salary. My point is pay the extra $10k and get someone that will put in 10x that amount of effort thus justifying the expense.. 8) |
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| thinkfreemind | Feb 5 2010, 03:53 PM Post #12 |
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Sure, but I wasn't talking about the average laborer. I was thinking more along the lines of those with a learned skill - like IT or engineering (for example) - and not the guys who stock the shelves at a BestBuy store. The debate over who works harder, blue collar vs. white collar is a whole other issue from what I was trying to say. |
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| squid5580 | Feb 5 2010, 05:39 PM Post #13 |
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Oh I wasn't going for the whole blue vs white. I am talking about both. If I have all this training to where I could develop a game blindfolded but I am stuck at the IT desk of Bioware well my skills are underappreciated so I am probably not going to do as good as a job as someone with less of my training who is basically overappreciated. |
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| teacake | Feb 5 2010, 09:57 PM Post #14 |
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"Nate, have you considered working with a headhunter? " :lol: :lol: :lol: His mom's been on me especially, but both of us, for months about "getting a headhunter." Where does this elusive breed of human exist? It's like a freaking magical leprechaun that is supposed to be the magical answer to finding a job, but I can't seem to find any that actually exist. You find a headhunter, we will talk to them. Edited by teacake, Feb 5 2010, 09:59 PM.
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| TSL | Feb 5 2010, 10:07 PM Post #15 |
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They are usually firms. They are also a catch 22 because they charge fees and many companies don't want to pay them. The company I used was called The Lucas Group. But I think they may be exclusive to former Military folks! |
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