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So I lost a so called friend today
Topic Started: Dec 24 2009, 04:37 AM (310 Views)
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Ok., A few months ago, a guy named John that my room mate is friends with was getting kicked out of his house. His parents moved away for whatever reason and ownership of their trailer transfered to a cousin of John's. This cousin had another mother/father/=child that needed the trailer as well, which means that John and his brother had to move out. He is a friend of Alex, so we take him into our place, even though it is a violation of the lease. He has been living with us since September, really. We got a letter from the land lord saying that we would be evicted if we were in violation of our contract even one more time. Here is the list of things she needed us to fix/take care of, followed by an explanation of each:

- Failure to properly dispose of our garbage

There have been skunks running around in our area that have been knocking peoples garbage cans down and digging through their trash. This has happened to Alex and I before while both of us were at work. Evidently complaints were lodged before we could put stuff back in the can. Somehow, skunks digging through peoples garbage is our fault

-The hard wired smoke detector was ripped out of the wall and set in the rain.

This one is partly true. Every time we cooked, the smoke alarm went off. John got up at 4in the morning one day when he could not sleep. He was going to cook himself some ramen. Not wanting to wake Alex and I up, he took the smoke detector down. The letter makes it sound violent, but that is not the case. The thing was beeping, and he couldn't get it to stop. He said even removing the battery didn't get it to stop beeping, so he set it outside. HE forgot about it. It rained the next day.Alex and I were oblivious to this happening until the land lord's husband told us. Either way, this was John doing something dumb.

-Broken cabinet doors

There was only one broken cabinet door. Again, this was John. He said he kneed it on accident while washing dishes and it broke. We fixed this in like...October. That should tell you how long it has been since the LAnd Lord has actually seen the place.

- Unreasonable amount of things hung on the walls hung in an improper way that caused damage

This one confuses me the most. When I moved in,. I told the Land Lord that I had a lot of posters that I would like to hang up. I asked her what method I should use to go about this. She told me to used either thumb tacks or double sided tape. We bought thumb tacks and found out that the walls are not dry wall. We could not force the thumb tacks in, so we used double sided tape. Why is this improper if the land lord told us to use it, and how is double sided tape damaging to the walls?

There is one other thing of note. When we moved in, the towel rack and the toilet paper holder were very lose where they were hanging on the wall. Every time you put any weight on them at all, they fell down. That, practically, makes them useless. We used a strong form of glue to glue both of these items back to the wall, and have had no problems since. That being said, the glue dripped down a bit below the two previously mentioned items. Getting the glue off the wall wound up pulling the paint off the wall. This is wall damage, for certain.

-Noise complaints

no one has ever told me anything. The land lord has never, prior to this letter, said anything to me about noise complaints. This is the first I have heard of it. We asked our neighbor, and he says he never hears us. We don't turn music up loud or anything like that. I wonder if the noise complaints were because the smoke alarm went off every day we cooked anything (The vent for the stove just blows the smoke back out at the top of the room. IT is pointless). I need to talk to the land lord on this one, especially. We are paranoid to turn anything up much at all. When I play video games past about 8 PM or so, I am afraid to turn the game up loud enough for me to actually hear the dialog for fear of getting evicted.

-Allowing a third party to live with us.

This would be John. The note said that this is the most important one.

One more thing. the note said to fix these things at our own expense immediately. I have been. We vacuumed, swept, mopped and cleaned this place from head to toe. We took down every single poster on the walls. I went and bought paint and a paint brush and painted over the spots where there was wall damage in the bathroom. The paint doesn't match 100%, but it does look a lot better than it did. I also bought a smoke detector and put that up in the kitchen.

This just leaves John. We told John that he needs to move out. He said he understands and will do so. We leave him alone about it for hte weekend, and he doesn't do anything. We ask him on Monday to move his stuff to where he will be staying now while Alex and I are at work. He promises he will We come home to find him on his lap top, having not done that which he promised to do. On Tuesday, we offer to move his stuff for him. He refuses, saying he will do it himself. He still doesn't. On Wednesday, we have been waiting for John to move out since we received the letter on Thursday. He hasn't done it. I am pissed. To me, it looks like he is riding our kindness for as long as he possibly can, even if it means Alex and I losing our apartment. He didn't seem to care. I tell Alex that if he hasn't moved his stuff by the time I get home from work. I will move it for him. I told Alex straight forward "John is not sleeping here tonight." This is exactly what I did. I made 3 seperate trips. I take most of his stuff to the place down the street where he is supposed to live now. I am over there, hanging out with Paul and chatting with him when he gets a phone call. It's John, and he is pissed off at me for what I have done. He tells me to bring his stuff back over to my apartment. I tell him no. Straight faced. I tell him no. He hangs up on me. Alex and John drop by Paul's place. They hang out for a bit and then Alex and I go back to our place. John follows about 30 minutes later. He sits there and doesnt say a word while watching Godzilla on Blu Ray. As he leaves, he tells me he hates my guts. HE leaves me messages on aim willing me to kill myself. Yeesh.

Let me tell you a bit more about him. He was a drug addict. He got himself clean of everything except weed. HE drinks alcohol and smokes. He is supposed to be Christian, but his apologies are worthless. He will apologize for something and act as if he feels genuinely guilty about whatever he has done. He does not stop doing what he apologized for, however. That, essentially, makes the apology worthless. He takes advantage of Alex's kindness and tries to talk Alex into buying stuff that he can't afford yet (Usually beer or something else small, though the laptop was Alex's purchase as well, and he hasn't paid Alex every week for it, despite promising that he would.)

Alex recently got a perscription for Aderol. It really helps Alex stay focused at work. Aderol basically doubles as a form of speed, however, and John has a tendancy to use it as such...a lot. John would freely take aderol from the perscription bottle. He was basically steal it. Then, he would lie about how much he has had, as if it isnt obvious from the fact that the bottle is either empty or almost empty. He emptied e veyr single pill of it's contents, confessed to Alex and apologized. Alex started hiding it, and he has admitted to seeking it actively. He has done similar things with Ian, Alex's younger brother. Stealing perscription pills right in front of him and then apologizing for it later and doing it all again.

On top of this, he is very self righteous. HE believes he is better than I am. He bitches to Alex all the time about me when he thinks I am not listening and talks to Alex about kicking me out of the apartment. He also calls me childish or a baby and things like that He said I am immature and don't have a sense of responsibility. This is coming from someone who steals perscription pills from someone that it actually does them some good. He works in the evenings, but during the day, he rarely, if ever does things such as dishes or cleaning up. The living room looks like a mess a lot of the time specifically because of him just throwing his clothes whereever, and he cannot stick to his weekly commitments such as giving Alex monehy. He talked Alex into buying him a laptop when he didn't have the cash for it, and he wants to call me irresponsible, childish and immature?! Last time I checked, I give Alex money every single week from my pay check. Last time I checked, I waited until I had the vast majority of the money before I asked Alex to help me with a major purchase (used PS3 slim. I paid 220 of it. He paid 69.). Last time I checked, I do the dishes pretty much every single day. Last time I checked, I keep my room relatively clean. This shit isnt going to fly. You dont get to be a guest in someones house and then bitch about the host the entire time. That isn't how it works

*sigh* He just came back here at 4 in the fucking morning because he cannot sleep on the floor at his other place. I shojld have locked the doors so he cannot get back in. I swear to God I am going to call the cops on him. He is treading on very thin ice with me right now, and he will not win this.
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Ouch, I was hoping everything was going well with yer new place to, and now it seems yer heading into a court situation.

But yeah you got yerself a junkie problem there, it's not going to be easy to get rid of him since there he's got access to a stash and extra money. If all his stuff is out start preparations to get the locks changed and let the landlord know he's moved. Removing smoke alarms is a major problem though cause it endangers everyone in the building, it seems like things in need of repair should have been reported to the landlord so they could fix them first like the vent and towel rack but you would know what the lease says better than I.

That's quite a mess you got going on over there, but yeah you don't need "friends" that are going end you up homeless. I hope your roommate is at least on the same page as you with all that. Good luck.
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Oh yeah how do you set off a smoke detector making ramen of all things? it's boiling water fer crise sake.
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Ocyd
Dec 24 2009, 06:36 AM
Ouch, I was hoping everything was going well with yer new place to, and now it seems yer heading into a court situation.

But yeah you got yerself a junkie problem there, it's not going to be easy to get rid of him since there he's got access to a stash and extra money. If all his stuff is out start preparations to get the locks changed and let the landlord know he's moved. Removing smoke alarms is a major problem though cause it endangers everyone in the building, it seems like things in need of repair should have been reported to the landlord so they could fix them first like the vent and towel rack but you would know what the lease says better than I.

That's quite a mess you got going on over there, but yeah you don't need "friends" that are going end you up homeless. I hope your roommate is at least on the same page as you with all that. Good luck.
He does not have a ke., He just woke me up by slamming shit all over the place. Apperently it just occurred to him that all of his clothes are in his room where he is supposed to be staying now.
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Ocyd
Dec 24 2009, 06:39 AM
Oh yeah how do you set off a smoke detector making ramen of all things? it's boiling water fer crise sake.
There might have been something on the burner or something. I have cleaned the burners and th stuff below them twice now.

I dont want to have a court battle on my hands. I am doing my damnedest to avoid it. What I did yesterday had to be done
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Talk to your roommate. Make sure you two are on the same page. Keep your doors locked, at all times. And if this guy keeps harassing you, call the cops.
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If he isn't on the lease then he has no case to take to court. Just call the cops. He is breaking and entering.
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nate
Dec 24 2009, 10:13 AM
Talk to your roommate. Make sure you two are on the same page. Keep your doors locked, at all times. And if this guy keeps harassing you, call the cops.
Alex agrees with me that this needed to be done. I told him that I was going to do this, and he didnt have a problem with it. He said it needed to be done
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It sounds like you are doing what you need to do and making all of the right moves. Be sure to contact your landlord to tell them about all of the fixes you have made to the problems they mentioned. As for John, you are doing well to ditch this loser. He sounds like nothing but trouble, and that is of course something that you should be trying to stay very far away from.

Also, I'd recommend that you get together with your neighbor to figure out how loud you can have your stuff. If you happen to see him one evening, ask him to spare a couple minutes of his time to help you figure out how loud you can have your stuff without bothering him. Do it scientifically, just like how conditions would normally be (doors shut and all, you know...). After this, you won't have to worry about how loud is too loud anymore.
Edited by thinkfreemind, Dec 24 2009, 01:16 PM.
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It isnt my neighbor Ryan. I think it is the person who lives above us. I don't know who else could be making noise complaints, but I don't know the person that lives above us. I have never seen him or her even.
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Fs_Metal
Dec 24 2009, 02:37 PM
It isnt my neighbor Ryan. I think it is the person who lives above us. I don't know who else could be making noise complaints, but I don't know the person that lives above us. I have never seen him or her even.
That's weird. It's usually the person through the wall or below you that has noise issues. As someone who lives above someone, I've never once heard anything from the apartment below, but I've had to file complaints about the people above before (who are the absolute WORST upstairs neighbors ever). And I can hear the people next door all the time too.
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nate
Dec 24 2009, 02:44 PM
Fs_Metal
Dec 24 2009, 02:37 PM
It isnt my neighbor Ryan. I think it is the person who lives above us. I don't know who else could be making noise complaints, but I don't know the person that lives above us. I have never seen him or her even.
That's weird. It's usually the person through the wall or below you that has noise issues. As someone who lives above someone, I've never once heard anything from the apartment below, but I've had to file complaints about the people above before (who are the absolute WORST upstairs neighbors ever). And I can hear the people next door all the time too.
Ryan told us that he never hears us at all. I dont know who else it would be
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Everything, everything, EVERYTHING!
Only option left is to kill him. Next letter from the landlord will include "unearth and dispose of dead body".
Edited by Ragnarok, Dec 24 2009, 11:59 PM.
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That guy sounds like nothing but trouble, I wouldn't even call him "so call friend" if I were you.
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