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M rated games are NOT appropriate for your 5 year old; You'd think this $#!% was common sense
Topic Started: Dec 17 2009, 04:15 PM (272 Views)
nate
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So I've been doing a good number of Kindergarten speech screenings as part of my job over the past few months. As part of this, I'll spark up conversations to get an idea of where they're at. And what's blowing my mind is how many of these kids are playing M rated games. And not just 1, but multiple M rated games. I had one kid today tell me about Halo games I didn't even know existed, he was so into the series.

I understand making exceptions with mature teens, but there is NO 5 year old on the planet that should be playing these games. Point blank period.
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I disagree. I am the parent of the child. I am the one who spends the majority of thier time with them. I am the one who should be determining what is or isn't appropriate for them. Not you. Not the ESRB. I would have absolutely no problem with Pagan playing Halo 3 at 5 because I have seen the content. It is harmless. You are mowing down cute little aliens not realistic people. Infact I don't think I ever shot a single human or something that resembled one. Just like I would have no problem with her squashing goombas or blasting them down with fireballs.
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I remember the main argument not being about questionable content of electric media, but media itself it having a negetive effect on still developing brains which are like sponges. The should really be using the time to learn extra languages or math or something usefull was how it went.
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:doesn't see a delete button:
Edited by nate, Dec 17 2009, 05:59 PM.
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Ocyd
Dec 17 2009, 05:03 PM
I remember the main argument not being about questionable content of electric media, but media itself it having a negetive effect on still developing brains which are like sponges. The should really be using the time to learn extra languages or math or something usefull was how it went.
Sure if you are sticking them in front of the TV with a controller in their hand for 8-10 hours a day than ya it would have a negative impact on them. I would much rather have her sitting there with a game for an hour than watching an hour of most kid cartoons. She may not realize it but she would be learning. Reading, math, problem solving and hand eye co ordination.

And by the time she reaches school age I am betting the schools themselves will be relying on electric forms of education over the old barbaric practice of slaughtering billions of trees to teach them. It will offer the students a more specialized education directed to thier needs and skills over the rigid 1 size fits all style that we grew up with.
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I don't see anything wrong with a kid playing Halo, either. If it weren't for the blood (and some of the swearing on Legendary in Halo 2 and 3), the games would be rated T. They are barely M rated games.
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Dec 17 2009, 06:51 PM
Ocyd
Dec 17 2009, 05:03 PM
I remember the main argument not being about questionable content of electric media, but media itself it having a negetive effect on still developing brains which are like sponges. The should really be using the time to learn extra languages or math or something usefull was how it went.
Sure if you are sticking them in front of the TV with a controller in their hand for 8-10 hours a day than ya it would have a negative impact on them. I would much rather have her sitting there with a game for an hour than watching an hour of most kid cartoons. She may not realize it but she would be learning. Reading, math, problem solving and hand eye co ordination.

And by the time she reaches school age I am betting the schools themselves will be relying on electric forms of education over the old barbaric practice of slaughtering billions of trees to teach them. It will offer the students a more specialized education directed to thier needs and skills over the rigid 1 size fits all style that we grew up with.
You are robbing your child of the chance to use her imagination to create her own entertainment and turning her into a vg Otaku.

I'm an American I know what's best you your child.



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Dec 17 2009, 08:08 PM
I don't see anything wrong with a kid playing Halo, either. If it weren't for the blood (and some of the swearing on Legendary in Halo 2 and 3), the games would be rated T. They are barely M rated games.
You guys really don't understand what a 5 year old is, do you? We're not talking 5th graders here.
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nate
Dec 17 2009, 09:10 PM
doomer
Dec 17 2009, 08:08 PM
I don't see anything wrong with a kid playing Halo, either. If it weren't for the blood (and some of the swearing on Legendary in Halo 2 and 3), the games would be rated T. They are barely M rated games.
You guys really don't understand what a 5 year old is, do you? We're not talking 5th graders here.
5 year olds are more capable that you give them credit for ex. at 5 Gohan had already beaten up a dinosaur and at the same age Goku had already defeated an army and destroyed many opponents
Edited by Ocyd, Dec 17 2009, 09:28 PM.
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nate
Dec 17 2009, 09:10 PM
doomer
Dec 17 2009, 08:08 PM
I don't see anything wrong with a kid playing Halo, either. If it weren't for the blood (and some of the swearing on Legendary in Halo 2 and 3), the games would be rated T. They are barely M rated games.
You guys really don't understand what a 5 year old is, do you? We're not talking 5th graders here.
If she can hold the controller and press the buttons I don't see the problem. I was playing games when I was 5. Sure I needed a stool to reach the buttons and wasted alot of my parents quarters but that is what parents are for. I don't see the problem. Especially with Halo 3 (since it is the only one I've played) other than she will get her butt handed to her alot.
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Ocyd
Dec 17 2009, 08:41 PM
squid5580
Dec 17 2009, 06:51 PM
Ocyd
Dec 17 2009, 05:03 PM
I remember the main argument not being about questionable content of electric media, but media itself it having a negetive effect on still developing brains which are like sponges. The should really be using the time to learn extra languages or math or something usefull was how it went.
Sure if you are sticking them in front of the TV with a controller in their hand for 8-10 hours a day than ya it would have a negative impact on them. I would much rather have her sitting there with a game for an hour than watching an hour of most kid cartoons. She may not realize it but she would be learning. Reading, math, problem solving and hand eye co ordination.

And by the time she reaches school age I am betting the schools themselves will be relying on electric forms of education over the old barbaric practice of slaughtering billions of trees to teach them. It will offer the students a more specialized education directed to thier needs and skills over the rigid 1 size fits all style that we grew up with.
You are robbing your child of the chance to use her imagination to create her own entertainment and turning her into a vg Otaku.

I'm an American I know what's best you your child.



:lol:
You just want me to send her outside with all the guns and kidnappers and people with windowless vans. I see how it is.
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squid5580
Dec 17 2009, 11:23 PM
Ocyd
Dec 17 2009, 08:41 PM
squid5580
Dec 17 2009, 06:51 PM
Ocyd
Dec 17 2009, 05:03 PM
I remember the main argument not being about questionable content of electric media, but media itself it having a negetive effect on still developing brains which are like sponges. The should really be using the time to learn extra languages or math or something usefull was how it went.
Sure if you are sticking them in front of the TV with a controller in their hand for 8-10 hours a day than ya it would have a negative impact on them. I would much rather have her sitting there with a game for an hour than watching an hour of most kid cartoons. She may not realize it but she would be learning. Reading, math, problem solving and hand eye co ordination.

And by the time she reaches school age I am betting the schools themselves will be relying on electric forms of education over the old barbaric practice of slaughtering billions of trees to teach them. It will offer the students a more specialized education directed to thier needs and skills over the rigid 1 size fits all style that we grew up with.
You are robbing your child of the chance to use her imagination to create her own entertainment and turning her into a vg Otaku.

I'm an American I know what's best you your child.



:lol:
You just want me to send her outside with all the guns and kidnappers and people with windowless vans. I see how it is.
You can't coddle her forever, besides some of those van guys are nice and have candy. Also it's better to be proficient with guns and never need them than to need to use one and suck at it.
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Can't coddle her forever huh? Like worrying about what a video game might do to to her? :think:

And she is Canadainain. She can already take down a moose with her bare hands. A gun ain't gonna protect her from the bullet of someone elses.
Edited by squid5580, Dec 18 2009, 01:52 AM.
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Dec 18 2009, 01:41 AM
Can't coddle her forever huh? Like worrying about what a video game might do to to her? :think:

And she is Canadainain. She can already take down a moose with her bare hands. A gun ain't gonna protect her from the bullet of someone elses.
There's a difference between coddling the poor dear and crippling her while she hasn't the foresight to properly defend herself.


See that's one of the many flaws in Canadian Eductation. bullet/bullet deflection techniques have been part of the U.S. p.e. curriculum for the past 60 yrs at least. part of the reason for the dropout rate. Honestly hand to hoof moose combat may as well be teaching fer to knit sweaters for beavers as much as that'll come up.
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Dec 18 2009, 02:13 AM
squid5580
Dec 18 2009, 01:41 AM
Can't coddle her forever huh? Like worrying about what a video game might do to to her? :think:

And she is Canadainain. She can already take down a moose with her bare hands. A gun ain't gonna protect her from the bullet of someone elses.
There's a difference between coddling the poor dear and crippling her while she hasn't the foresight to properly defend herself.


See that's one of the many flaws in Canadian Eductation. bullet/bullet deflection techniques have been part of the U.S. p.e. curriculum for the past 60 yrs at least. part of the reason for the dropout rate. Honestly hand to hoof moose combat may as well be teaching fer to knit sweaters for beavers as much as that'll come up.
And the difference between OMG this form of media might be bad for her and sun cancer, sugar, playground equipment injuries, indoor injuries, burns and the list goes on and on are what exactly? Other than the fact it is my responsibility to teach her about things like moderation and safety? And when I deem her mature enough to handle them is it also my responsibility to allow her to learn about them? Or am I supposed to blindly follow what a little letter on a box means? Or what a study might have proved when there is another study that refutes the first's claim?

And oh look at you deflecting little 1 ounce bullets. Lets see you take on a 600 pound animal that doesn't travel in a straight line. And has antlers bigger than you are.
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