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| nate | Jan 15 2011, 09:31 AM Post #991 |
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Revenant Wings was a fantastic game. :x |
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| kknd | Jan 15 2011, 04:33 PM Post #992 |
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lol... I think the last 2 bosses left a sour taste in my mouth, plus I didn't care about the story. |
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| nate | Jan 15 2011, 05:17 PM Post #993 |
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The final boss of that game was bananas. That may be the single hardest final boss I've ever beaten. |
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| thinkfreemind | Jan 15 2011, 05:29 PM Post #994 |
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Since when is a 10x10x12 rectangle, a square? It is a rectangle Professor Layton! If I am to be expected to solve this puzzle, at least make the answer logical. Don't ask me to build a rectangle when the question asked for a square! :angry: I swear, some of these puzzles are 100% bullshit! |
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| nate | Jan 15 2011, 05:34 PM Post #995 |
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10x10x12 is neither a rectangle nor square, chief, since those are 2D shapes and that includes a z-axis. I'd reread more carefully cause I cannot think of a single incident where the solution was not 100% obtainable and logical once you understood the question fully. The issue is, many questions contain a twist that you might not be catching. |
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| kknd | Jan 15 2011, 05:37 PM Post #996 |
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Well I don't remember the puzzle but technically 10x10x12 could be a square depending on which side of the prism you are looking at since a square is only a 2D object, now if they said to make a cube than that's another story. |
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| thinkfreemind | Jan 15 2011, 05:51 PM Post #997 |
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Kknd is exactly on the money! I figured that this was one of those riddles where they were trying to be sneaky, giving a dimension for height when all they asked was for the player to make a square, not a cube. So, using the information given, the correct answer would have been 30. I tried 30, but this did not work, and I was all like WTF!?! :headscratch: Using all of the hints, I knew they wanted the player to make a cube somehow, because they made specific mention to not forget the height of the tile. However, they also also made a mention of exactly what I had done to make a square with 30 tiles and said that it could be done with less. Um... No it can't. At this point, I simply gave up and just kept trying numbers less than 30 to find out what they were thinking. I was willing to be made an idiot, but when I got to the answer they wanted of 20, only to see that they made a three-dimensional rectangle (not a square), I was pissed. This isn't the first puzzle in the game that has been wrong, or had another logical answer, which would be just as correct, but not the answer that they wanted. I'll admit that this doesn't happen often, but when it does it is infuriating. Edited by thinkfreemind, Jan 15 2011, 05:53 PM.
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| nate | Jan 15 2011, 05:59 PM Post #998 |
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What number is it? I'll look it up and explain it to you cause I have no idea what you're talking about from explanation. |
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| thinkfreemind | Jan 15 2011, 06:04 PM Post #999 |
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#76. I have been reading on GFaqs as well and some people over there are doing it in different ways, but many of their methods involve things unspoken, while my way, of just laying out 30 tiles in a 6x5 grid to make a square in no way contradicts the spirit of the puzzle. |
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| nate | Jan 15 2011, 06:12 PM Post #1000 |
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It does, because they want the fewest number of moves. Your answer does work, but it's not what they asked for. ;) |
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| thinkfreemind | Jan 15 2011, 06:34 PM Post #1001 |
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Have you looked at the puzzle? They've made a 3D rectangle, not a square. I realize that it will look like a square on one side, but that is a shitty way to make a puzzle, in my opinion. Thinking about it more, even assuming that all they care about is how something can be made to look like a square from a single view point, four tiles stood up to make a 10x10 or 12x12 square when viewed from above would be an even better answer. The bottom line is that this puzzle is crap. |
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| nate | Jan 15 2011, 06:40 PM Post #1002 |
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TFM, I have no idea why you're playing this game, honestly. This is exactly what I expected after the last attempt. :? |
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| thinkfreemind | Jan 15 2011, 07:54 PM Post #1003 |
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Am I wrong though? The entire game asks the player to think outside the box, but when a puzzle comes along that literally has the player trying to make a square, they can't even get that right. I want to like the game, it has a lot of character and is unique. Some of these puzzles are a bit crap though and they ruin the experience, and it is this that I am finding so frustrating. Another example of a riddle that wasn't thought out very well is the one about aliens trying to explain a human object. Long question short, the game asks what item is capable of creating a hole in a sheet of paper and then marking the location? I understand that the answer wanted is a compass, but this answer requires guesswork. Any item capable of marking a location on a sheet of paper (and also strong enough to make a hole) would work; a pencil, pen, marker, crayon, or any number of things could be a correct answer. So, it is my opinion that riddles such as this should not be included in the game. |
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| nate | Jan 15 2011, 08:10 PM Post #1004 |
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You are wrong, yes. (Who sets themselves up like that?) :D I don't want you to take this the wrong way, but have you ever thought that the issue is that you're not thinking outside the box? Instead of thinking like the game, you're expecting the game to think like you. It sounds like you're hung up on how you would do things and just looking for the game to tell you what a clever person you are. I had zero problems with any of the puzzles in any of the three games. And I've 100%ed them- regular puzzles, bonus puzzles, hidden puzzles, DLC puzzles. Even the ones that I had trouble figuring out, I could always see where they came from with the solution and how I was going about it the wrong way. There's almost always a catch where you're supposed to be examining things from another angle. You sound like you're hung up on your own and want the game to vindicate you, rather than rethinking things and looking at it differently. To be perfectly honest, it just sounds like this just isn't your type of game and that's perfectly fine. If you don't dig it, you don't dig it. No big. Edit: One thing you might want to do since you say you like the characters and story is just do the bare minimum (I think it's 80) to beat Curious Village. You may like the second game more. I had problems with it because I felt like it largely eliminated the clever twist puzzles in favor of just hunker down and solve em variety, which it sounds like you'd prefer. --- On the subject of not digging things: I just don't like Mass Effect. This game's just clunky as hell. I tried playing through some more today. Nothing big happened or anything, just wasn't having fun. So when I was killed cause I couldn't detach from cover while being flanked, I just decided to cut my losses on this one. There really wasn't much compelling me to keep going besides not wanting to lose $20 on a game. I think I got decently far into it, too. I was about 1/2 through the 6th out of 9 mission in the game according to one of the FAQs I saw. Shame, but oh well. Edited by nate, Jan 15 2011, 08:22 PM.
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| thinkfreemind | Jan 15 2011, 09:06 PM Post #1005 |
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I don't think the problem is that I am incapable of thinking outside the box, but rather that I am perhaps too far outside the box. In a game such as this, there can only be a single answer that they are looking for each question. The only time that there is a problem is when there are multiple answers, that require out of the box thinking, that just aren't the answer that the game wants. Another example, is a puzzle that asked the player to connect dots to make a cross on a peg board that met the requirements given. I got the answer they wanted after a while of working on a solution, but before discovering the answer they wanted, I found another correct way to solve the puzzle. I will say that my cross wasn't very nice looking, but it was a cross-like shape just the same. It also didn't help that the game made a point of saying that the cross could be any size, which made me think my first answer might have been what they wanted. It is just my opinion that in games such as this, where there can only be one correct answer with no debate, there needs to be more attention paid to make sure that this is so. I enjoy logic puzzles, like the ones found in those books at a gas station, and that is what this game needs more of, not vague riddles. |
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