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Topic Started: Dec 12 2009, 01:14:31 PM (1,067 Views)
Nocturnal Ape
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Hey, errbody. I'm starting to play Morrowind again, and I was wondering if you guys can help me with my class. I want to make a mage that can hold its own in actual combat (when I run out of magicka and have no potions). What race and stuff should I do? Is Dark Elf good?
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Jan 21 2010, 09:26:43 PM
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Dark Elf is perfect for the battlemage-type character. They've got a perfect lineup of skills for it.
As for the class, make a custom one. Choose magic for the specialization. For the skills, pretty much just make sure you have a weapon for a major skill (long blade is a good one since Dark Elves get a bonus in it), and you're good. You could also put an armor in the major skills or keep it in minor. Luckily, Morrowind has unarmored if you want a thematically appropriate wizard.
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I agree. The Dark Elves are native to Morrowind, so not only does playing that race put me in the mood, it's the only race in which the native dark elves (majority of NPCs) do not have a lowered disposition toward you, which could prove helpful on quests.
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Dec 12 2009, 05:43:28 PM
I agree. The Dark Elves are native to Morrowind, so not only does playing that race put me in the mood, it's the only race in which the native dark elves (majority of NPCs) do not have a lowered disposition toward you, which could prove helpful on quests.
Actually, I'm pretty sure they still do. Sure, you're a Dark Elf, but you're a foreign Dark Elf, and that's just as bad as anyone else.
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Dec 12 2009, 05:45:42 PM
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Dec 12 2009, 05:43:28 PM
I agree. The Dark Elves are native to Morrowind, so not only does playing that race put me in the mood, it's the only race in which the native dark elves (majority of NPCs) do not have a lowered disposition toward you, which could prove helpful on quests.
Actually, I'm pretty sure they still do. Sure, you're a Dark Elf, but you're a foreign Dark Elf, and that's just as bad as anyone else.
It DOES give you an advantage over all the other races.
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Dec 12 2009, 05:52:55 PM
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Dec 12 2009, 05:45:42 PM
BloodPheasant741
Dec 12 2009, 05:43:28 PM
I agree. The Dark Elves are native to Morrowind, so not only does playing that race put me in the mood, it's the only race in which the native dark elves (majority of NPCs) do not have a lowered disposition toward you, which could prove helpful on quests.
Actually, I'm pretty sure they still do. Sure, you're a Dark Elf, but you're a foreign Dark Elf, and that's just as bad as anyone else.
It DOES give you an advantage over all the other races.
Really? Well, UESP doesn't say anything, but whatever. I'll believe you.
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It would also be wise to get a magicka regen mod(assuming you have the PC version). They have some that are configurable, some that are incremental, and so on.
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Oh yeah, that's one of the best mods ever.
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Make sure you choose a sign that gives you a magicka boost.

Sucks to run out of magic.
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Dec 12 2009, 05:57:04 PM
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Dec 12 2009, 05:45:42 PM
BloodPheasant741
Dec 12 2009, 05:43:28 PM
I agree. The Dark Elves are native to Morrowind, so not only does playing that race put me in the mood, it's the only race in which the native dark elves (majority of NPCs) do not have a lowered disposition toward you, which could prove helpful on quests.
Actually, I'm pretty sure they still do. Sure, you're a Dark Elf, but you're a foreign Dark Elf, and that's just as bad as anyone else.
It DOES give you an advantage over all the other races.
Really? Well, UESP doesn't say anything, but whatever. I'll believe you.
The disposition drop isn't as high as the other races, so it's an advantage.

Yes, Dark Elf or Breton would be the best Battle Mages. It depends on how you want to fight though.

Dark Elf = Offensive magic attacks(destruction) with combat intermixed.
Breton = More defensive magic, with combat intermixed.

Also, choose only ONE weapon for your major.
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I've personally always found this to be the best mix:

High Elf
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Major: Destruction, Alteration, Light Armor, Mysticism, Conjuration, Long Blade
Minor: Illusion, Restoration, Athletics, Armorer, Alchemy, then whatever you feel the need to put in as an extra skill.

Just be sure to get a Summon Longsword spell early on, keep an eye on light armors that pop up, keep health potions stocked, and you're good to go so long as you do Telvanni and Mage's Guild.
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I need to play another character on Morrowind, I've yet to really play a magic user. Which is surprising, as I love magic.
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Those Bound spells are quite the unbalancer! I mean, you have the default Battlemage with a decent Conjuration and Axe, and you can wreak any havoc with a Bound Battleaxe at a low level. Or even if you're bad at Conjuration, you can enchant some stuff with the spell. Blah. I did plan making a balancing mod for 'em, but never got around the laziness factor.
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Dec 15 2009, 04:41:36 PM
Those Bound spells are quite the unbalancer! I mean, you have the default Battlemage with a decent Conjuration and Axe, and you can wreak any havoc with a Bound Battleaxe at a low level. Or even if you're bad at Conjuration, you can enchant some stuff with the spell. Blah. I did plan making a balancing mod for 'em, but never got around the laziness factor.
No, I think it's all balanced out. Once you find the good weapons later on in the game, you realize that you've been wasting tons of points in a completely useless skill the entire game.
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Dec 15 2009, 04:41:36 PM
Those Bound spells are quite the unbalancer! I mean, you have the default Battlemage with a decent Conjuration and Axe, and you can wreak any havoc with a Bound Battleaxe at a low level. Or even if you're bad at Conjuration, you can enchant some stuff with the spell. Blah. I did plan making a balancing mod for 'em, but never got around the laziness factor.
Off topic, but I have a colour version of your profile picture if you want it. I love that picture, its so great.

Imma make my character soon. I'm def going with Blood Elf though, because they look the best.
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Jan 21 2010, 09:26:43 PM
You're so badass, Ape. I wish I were you.

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Eh.... Blood elf? This isn't world of warcraft you know :bad:
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Dec 15 2009, 07:16:34 PM
Tabasco
Dec 15 2009, 04:41:36 PM
Those Bound spells are quite the unbalancer! I mean, you have the default Battlemage with a decent Conjuration and Axe, and you can wreak any havoc with a Bound Battleaxe at a low level. Or even if you're bad at Conjuration, you can enchant some stuff with the spell. Blah. I did plan making a balancing mod for 'em, but never got around the laziness factor.
No, I think it's all balanced out. Once you find the good weapons later on in the game, you realize that you've been wasting tons of points in a completely useless skill the entire game.
What do you mean? You don't have to waste points to get your Conjuration up. Just use it. And very few weapons are better than the Bound ones. The better Long and Short Blades are better, okay. But Axe? The only one I consider better is the Adamantium Axe. There are some nice Blunts, but either the weigh insane amounts of pounds (Dae Warhammer, 6th House Bellhammer) compared to their damage, or they're hard to get (Sunder, Skull Crusher), or both (Aevar Stone-singer's toy). All good Spears are hard to get. As are Marksman weapons.

So yeah, I kinda think they're unbalancing.
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Yes, but you spend time to use the spells, time that could be spent on far more useful endeavors.
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Dec 16 2009, 11:36:47 AM
Yes, but you spend time to use the spells, time that could be spent on far more useful endeavors.
WTF, are you joking?

This is a joke, right? Where's the punch-line?

Spend...spend time!? It takes half a fucking second to cast the spell, and you will only be using the spells while out adventuring, therefore you ARE using your time for useful endeavors, you're going into the world, EXPLORING. Which is what the game is based on. Unless your idea of more useful endeavors is going around talking to people and declining every quest they give you, there's going to be NO reason why bound items are a waste of time. Even the bound armor is better, it's light armor with the strength of Daedric! How the hell can that be classified as useless time wasting? Hell, sitting here trying to argue a moot point like this is more of a time consumer that could be spend on far more useful endeavors.

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What IM said, plus that Conjuration is easy as hell to improve. You just get some weak Turn Undead thing and keep casting as you wander around. Of course, that's extreme powerplaying, and many don't like it (including me). But yes, Mr Maidens said it. Skills improve by using. Following your logic, using weapons skills is a waste of time, too.
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Personally, I think it gets to be too tedious. Eventually, there's no reason to conjure any creatures, since you can pwn anything with one swing or spell, if you plan correctly. And having to cast spells every time you needed armor would be pretty annoying as well.
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That's what I'm talking about. I'm not saying the act of casting each and every spell is a waste, the act of casting it at all is a waste. Spending all your time building up a skill that in the end becomes more of a burden than anything. Many of the artifact weapons and armor are incredibly easy to get a hold of, and are superior to the bound equipment in every way (except weight). Why go casting bound armor whenever something pops up when you can just wear the Cuirass of Savior's Hide?
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Because if you get your Conjuration skill set well it's not a waste of time. I could make the same point about using armor at all, or about using weapons, or using potions...you see what I'm getting at? If you don't use Conjuration ever, I could give two [censored]s less, but it doesn't mean it's a 'waste of time' to use it.
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You're not getting my point. Bound equipment is inferior to artifact equipment. Once you fill yourself up with artifacts, all those bound spells are completely useless.
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But maybe not everyone wants to play so that they collect all the artifacts...?

There's a huge imbalance in artifacts.Almost all the weapons are Long Blades.
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Not even that, but you're forgetting that really NONE of the artifacts are easily obtainable to low level characters. Dude, we're not running out there at level 40 or something, we need skills to help us get those awesome artifacts. And until then, trust me, Conjuration is a good spell. Even after you get artifact equipment, summoning a Golden Saint to help you out is always useful.
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You can also just roleplay being a conjurer anyway, or get a magic balancing mod.
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I love Conjuration. I love looking like a badass.
redsrock
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You're so badass, Ape. I wish I were you.

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