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| Game Notes; Took down while playing the game. | |
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| Topic Started: Oct 1 2009, 02:57 PM (120 Views) | |
| asa | Oct 1 2009, 02:57 PM Post #1 |
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I ran across my notes that I wrote while playing the game. There is some interesting stuff, but I'm not certain that these things aren't already known or documented. I can't recall enough to give details, as I don't remember all of the area names off the top of my head. Tomorrow I will bring my notes and give a sample of some of the things I made note of. Asa |
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| Fate | Oct 1 2009, 03:07 PM Post #2 |
Kyle and Fate > Awesomeness
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Actually, I'm quite curious as to what kind of notes you took. What were they about? Maybe strategies and such, by the sound of it? |
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| asa | Oct 2 2009, 01:15 PM Post #3 |
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Actually, it's more in the line of solutions to the various puzzles (like the block puzzles in the Aquatic Gardens of Surferio), and notes about treasure chests. The guide made a few mistakes, and I made note of the corrections. I'm posting the puzzle solutions to all three block puzzles in the Aquatic Gardens of Surferio. Puzzle 1: Spoiler: click to toggle I noticed an error in the Puzzle 2 solution. I mistakenly type North Gate of Puzzle 1, instead of West Gate of Puzzle 1, when I referenced reaching the East Gate of Puzzle 2. Puzzle 2: Spoiler: click to toggle Puzzle 3: Spoiler: click to toggle Edited by asa, Oct 4 2009, 09:38 AM.
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| asa | Oct 4 2009, 06:00 PM Post #4 |
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I have been compiling a list I made in my notes concerning the various items found in the chests as I encountered them, and identified them according to the Brady Games guide. I found some very interesting differences. I haven't finished going through all of the lists yet. Currently, I have every area that contains treasure chests from Whipple Village to Sphere 211. I have the bonus dungeons yet to do. I have never defeated Gabriel Celesta, so the Sealed Levels of Sphere 211 remain sealed, for now. There is one area where I found that the guide showed 2 chests containing the same item, but in the game one of them contained something different. I never marked my guide to reflect which chest it was. I remember planning another play-through in order to find everything again and this time make note of which chest it is. There is another area where there are chests that are not identified in the guide. I made note of those, and, while I haven't checked that in depth yet, I believe I did mark the guide to show where those chests occurred. If I did, I will make maps of the area, showing where those chests occur. Finally, I recorded all of the puzzle solutions to all of the various floor and room puzzles that occur in the game. I am going to compile those documents as well. In the end, I hope to be able to provide some useful information to the players of the game. In terms of strategies, while I documented some details of the fight levels in the Fighting Arena. I have never defeated the Reigning Champions, but I have defeated all levels leading up to it. My notes there are sparse, but I may be able to provide some form of details. I didn't really write down any details about my battle groups, or what I had them doing. I know that I leveled them all as equally as I could. I had Adray, but he was not much use until he gained more abilities. I did not include Roger or Peppita in my groups. I had Nel, Adray, Albel and Mirage, in addition to Fayt, Cliff, Sophia and Maria. My memory is so sparse right now, that I'm having to refer to the guide constantly, just to make sure I give the correct names to everything and everyone. It's been a few years since I really played it. I got caught up in Final Fantasy XII. I'm waiting for XIII and XIII Versus to be released. It is my hope that I'll be able to get back to playing my PS2 in the next few months. I'll be able to play SO3 again, and finish up all the things I didn't do last time. If anyone is interested, and if there's a proper topic to post it in, I can provide a list of the Battle Trophies I accumulated. I haven't played through a third or fourth time yet, so I don't have those Trophies yet. Wayne |
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| Fayt | Oct 4 2009, 08:39 PM Post #5 |
Easy wins have never been my style
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Interesting stuff, I love how you made maps of the Aquatic Gardens of Surferio, I recall struggling through that place but eventually making it through without a guide. No doubt that would be handy to refer to if I ever did go there again. As for Battle Trophies, I tried to make a full guide of that myself, and ended up with over 80% of the trophies - but some of my tips might be too vague and not quite detailed enough. Feel free to refer to that with your Battle Trophies you accumulated. http://s1.zetaboards.com/Star_Ocean_Universe/topic/37836/1 Nice work asa. |
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| asa | Oct 5 2009, 03:02 PM Post #6 |
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This is a list of the items in the treasure chests in the game. This listing is derived from what the treasure chests in the game contained. Where there is a difference in the guide, that difference is noted in the column to the right of the table, on the same line as the item entry. Where additional text is included, it occurs on the next immediate line under the first comment. Hidden Items are treasure chests that require the Ring of Disentegration in order to remove the obstacle preventing you from reaching the chest. Ruins of Coffir =============== The guide has a numbering typo. It numbered item 7 as item 9, then followed that with item 8, and item 9 again. The item names are both correct, but the number is 9 in both cases, and the number 7 is missing. Mountains of Barr Hidden Items and Maze of Tribulations ================= ============ ==================== The order listed in the guide is different from the order I discovered these chests in. I am listing them in the order in which they occur in the guide. Maze of Tribulations ==================== My table for this area wasn't organized the way the others were. The distinction between regular chest and hidden chest was lost. I organized the list in the order of treasure chest number, and separated regular from hidden. Sphere 211 (Floors 6 - 100) and Sphere 211 Sealed Levels (Floors 101 - 210) =========================== =========================================== I opted to count the items found, since the level of complexity of the guide's list is large. I will be compiling a list, by floor, of what occurs on each level. There are many empty chests on these levels. I didn't count them last time. As I compile the list, I will count them and include entries for them. Sphere 211 Sealed Levels (Floors 101 - 210) =========================================== As I have never defeated Gabriel Celesta, I have not gone through the Sealed Levels. Ancient Ruins of Mosel (Lower Floors) ===================================== There are 2 treasure chests that occur in the game that are not documented in the guide. The level they occur on is: Floor B1F, Subterranean Passage Drawing an ascii map of the area is more difficult than I expected it to be. Instead, I will give directions to follow to get to them. Both treasure chests are only reachable after the water drains from the area. Start where you enter the lower levels. Cooking Ingredients =================== 1. Follow the path to where the Hauler Beast was. 2. Walk south and around the end of the upper platform. 3. Walk north and go to the left, passing under the upper platform. 4. Turn right and walk north as far as you can go. 5. Turn right and walk to the end of the narrow passage. 6. Switch back and walk up the ramp. 7. Switch back again and follow the platform. 8. Turn left. When you reach the fork, follow to the left. 9. Walk south until you reach the wall. The chest is against the wall. Star Talisman ============= 1. Follow 1 through 4 above. 2. When you get to the end, turn left and follow the path through the upper platform. 3. Turn right and keep walking until you reach the west-most wall of the area. 4. Turn south and follow the path going under the upper platform. 5. Keep walking south, making the left-right jog. 6. Go through the opening in the divider wall that takes you back into the southern portion of the area. 7. Follow the path south as it passes under the platform above. The chest is at the far south end of this part, on the left in the nitch. Urssa Cave Temple ================= I have never defeated the final boss of this area. As such, I have not yet gotten Trading Card EX11. C = count Whipple Village Spoiler: click to toggle Ruins of Coffir Spoiler: click to toggle Norton's Hideout Spoiler: click to toggle Royal City of Airyglyph Spoiler: click to toggle Traum Mountains Spoiler: click to toggle Kirlsa Mining Town Spoiler: click to toggle Kirlsa Caverns Spoiler: click to toggle Bequerel Mountain Path Spoiler: click to toggle Riverfront Village of Arias Spoiler: click to toggle Aire/Kirlsa Hills Spoiler: click to toggle Granah Hills Spoiler: click to toggle Kirlsa Training Facility Spoiler: click to toggle Palmira Plains Spoiler: click to toggle Trading Town of Peterny Spoiler: click to toggle Sanmite Steppes Spoiler: click to toggle Duggus Forest Spoiler: click to toggle Lost City of Surferio Spoiler: click to toggle Irisa Fields Spoiler: click to toggle Sacred City of Aquios Spoiler: click to toggle Bequerel Mine Spoiler: click to toggle Sealed Cavern Spoiler: click to toggle Shrine of Kaddan Spoiler: click to toggle Mosel Dunes Spoiler: click to toggle Ancient Ruins of Mosel Spoiler: click to toggle Mountains of Barr Spoiler: click to toggle Urssa Lava Caves Spoiler: click to toggle Moonbase Spoiler: click to toggle Arkives Spoiler: click to toggle Gemity Spoiler: click to toggle Sphere 211 (Floors 1 - 5) Spoiler: click to toggle Sphere 211 (Floors 6 - 100) Spoiler: click to toggle Ancient Ruins of Mosel (Lower Floors) Spoiler: click to toggle Spiral Tower Spoiler: click to toggle Aquatic Gardens of Surferio Spoiler: click to toggle Maze of Tribulations Spoiler: click to toggle Urssa Cave Temple Spoiler: click to toggle Sphere 211 Sealed Levels (Floors 101 - 210) Spoiler: click to toggle [/font] Edited by asa, Oct 8 2009, 10:28 AM.
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| asa | Oct 7 2009, 11:16 AM Post #7 |
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This post contains the solutions to the Floor Puzzles in the Maze of Tribulations. In addition to the exit solutions, I also include the solutions for clearing the levels below the puzzle levels. The floor puzzles are layed out identically, so I have only included one diagram. Levels B2F, B6F +------------------------+ |+----++----++----++----+| ||A1 ||A2 ||A3 ||A4 || || || || || || |+----++----++----++----+| |+----++----++----++----+| ||B1 ||B2 ||B3 ||B4 || || || || || || |+----++----++----++----+| |+----++----++----++----+| ||C1 ||C2 ||C3 ||C4 || || || || || || |+----++----++----++----+| |+----++----++----+ | ||D1 ||D2 ||D3 | D4 | || || || | | |+----++----++----+ | +------------------------+ Level B2F ========= Solution to exit: (10 moves) D3,C3,C2,B2,B1,C1,C2,B2,A2,A1 To get everything in Level B3F: ============================== 1. Go to D3 and jump into D4 2. Move D3 east, then jump into D3 3. Move D3, D2, and D1 east, then jump into D1 4. Move C4 south, then jump into C4 5. Move B4 and C4 south, then jump into B4 6. Move B4 and C4 south, then B2 and B3 east, then jump into B2 Level B6F ========= Solution to exit: (18 moves) D3,D2,D1,C1,C2,D2,D3,C3,B3,B2,A2,A3,B3,B2,C2,C1,B1,A1 To get everything in Level B7F: ============================== 1. Go to D3 and jump into D4 2. Move D3 east, then jump into D3 3. Move D2 and D3 east, then jump into D2 4. Move D1, D2 and D3 east, then jump into D1 5. Move D1, D2 and D3 east, then C1 south, then jump into C1 6. Follow solution until C3 south, then jump into C3 7. Follow solution until B2 east, then jump into B2 8. Follow solution until A3 west, then jump into A3 9. Follow solution until A3 west, then move A4 west, then jump into A4 10. Follow solution until B1 south, then jump into B1 |
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| asa | Oct 7 2009, 11:20 AM Post #8 |
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This post contains the solution for the second element of the Urssa Lava Caves Room Puzzle. Second Element Puzzle The Urssa Cave Temple room layouts are too complex for me to include a diagram at this time. The general layout is as follows: +------++------++------+ |North ||North ||North | |West ||Center||East | +------++------++------+ +------++------++------+ |South ||South ||South | |West ||Center||East | +------++------++------+ You start in the South-Center room. Go to (room): Get orb: Place orb: Get other: Where: ============ ======= ========= ========= ===== 1. South-West Fire 2. South-East Fire 3. North-East Air 4. South-Center Air 5. South-Center Water Center pedestal 6. North-East Water Treasure 7. North-East Water Exit through the center walkway and thru the door in the middle 8. North-Center Earth Water Exit west to the n/w room, exit that room east to the center walkway back to the n/e room 9. South-East Fire 10. South-Center Air 11. South-West Earth 12. North-West Air Treasure 12. North-West Air 13. North-Center Air 14. North-Center Fire |
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| asa | Oct 7 2009, 11:28 AM Post #9 |
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This post contains my Inventor Recruiting and Placement List. The location is where I sent them. I grouped them together according to type of inventing they do. I found that the locations have a limit to how many inventors can be there, so some of them were placed in a different location. In those cases, I put the location in parentheses beside the inventor's name. I purposely avoided the workshops in the Urssa Lava Caves and Maze of Tribulations, though, in retrospect, I probable could have divided the inventors up better if I had used them. The two inventors I have not gotten yet are shown in the location I planned to put them in. Cooking - Airyglyph =================== Item Inventor ====================== =========== Adorable Kitty Doll Mayu Golden Curry Rigel Keen Kithen Knife Killer Chef Winking Sage Cider Damdamooda Writing - Kirlsa-A ================== Item Inventor ====================== =========== Sunrise Dictionary Cornelius 85000 Fol Mishell 150000 Fol Count Noppen Strange Book Oshan the Sage (Airyglyph) Crafting - Kirlsa-A =================== Item Inventor ====================== =========== Antique Jewelry Balbados Kimited Edition Doll Stanice 20000 Fol Aqua & Evia 82000 Fol Chilico (Aquios) Smithery - Kirlsa-B =================== Item Inventor ====================== =========== 13500 Fol Grats 28000 Fol Lias 60000 Fol Gusto Bent Mystic Blade Boyd (haven't gotten yet) Compounding - Kirlsa-B ====================== Item Inventor ====================== =========== Potion of Youth (Fake) Gossam Experimental Remedy Puffy 3200 Fol Milenya 90000 Fol Louise the Diviner (Aquios) Alchemy - Paterny ================= Item Inventor ====================== =========== Book of Prophecies 1 Mackwell Spirit Stone Misty Lear 10000 Fol Eliza Philosopher's Stone Ansala (haven't gotten yet) Engineering - Aquios ==================== Item Inventor ====================== =========== Ultimate Bomb Dejison Dremela's Tool Set Meryl 30000 Fol Vanilla Rebuilt Izak Item Creation ============= I concentrated my efforts on creating Orichalcum, to enhance weapons, and synthesizing it into the weapons my characters used. Alchemy Team ------------ Misty Lear, Mackwell, Maria Synthesis Team -------------- Adray, Albel, Maria For items that have to be created to recruit inventors, I used the following teams: Golden Curry - 62 Fol --------------------- Killer Chef, Cliff, Nel Ultimate Bomb - 229 Fol (my team made it with 234 Fol) ----------------------- Vanilla, Fayt, Cliff Strange Book - 5400 Fol (my team made it with 7722 Fol) ----------------------- Count Noppen, Cornelius, Fayt Philosopher's Stone - ???? Fol ------------------------------ Eliza, Mackwell, Fayt I made 50 runs trying to create this item. Below is the table I created documenting the process. I never did create it. I started with 4,539,243 Fol. Expense = Fol x Passes Total = Sum of Expenses Remaining = Fol left after Run Run Fol Passes Expense Total Remaining --- --- ------ ------- ----- --------- 1 12 11 132 132 4539111 2 12 20 240 372 4538871 3 12 26 312 684 4538559 4 12 12 144 828 4538415 5 12 12 144 972 4538271 6 12 19 228 1200 4538043 7 12 18 216 1416 4537827 8 12 19 228 1644 4537599 9 12 20 240 1884 4537359 10 12 19 228 2112 4537131 11 12 16 192 2304 4536939 12 12 18 216 2520 4536723 13 12 14 168 2688 4536555 14 12 18 216 2904 4536339 15 12 18 216 3120 4536123 16 12 16 192 3312 4535931 17 12 21 252 3564 4535679 18 12 22 264 3828 4535415 19 12 30 360 4188 4535055 20 11 14 154 4342 4534901 21 12 18 216 4558 4534685 22 12 19 228 4786 4534457 23 12 17 204 4990 4534253 24 12 11 132 5122 4534121 25 12 24 288 5410 4533833 26 12 14 168 5578 4533665 27 12 21 252 5830 4533413 28 12 18 216 6046 4533197 29 12 15 180 6226 4533017 30 12 19 228 6454 4532789 31 11 21 231 6685 4532558 32 12 16 192 6877 4532366 33 12 23 276 7153 4532090 34 12 15 180 7333 4531910 35 12 21 252 7585 4531658 36 12 11 132 7717 4531526 37 12 21 252 7969 4531274 38 12 17 204 8173 4531070 39 13 15 195 8368 4530875 40 12 16 192 8560 4530683 41 12 12 144 8704 4530539 42 12 12 144 8848 4530395 43 12 16 192 9040 4530203 44 12 17 204 9244 4529999 45 12 16 192 9436 4529807 46 12 21 252 9688 4529555 47 12 14 168 9856 4529387 48 12 15 180 10036 4529207 49 11 13 143 10179 4529064 50 12 13 156 10335 4528908 Edited by asa, Oct 7 2009, 12:41 PM.
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| asa | Oct 7 2009, 12:39 PM Post #10 |
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Finally, the last of my notes. I seem to recall having to fight some of these ranking battles more than once, because the ranking order of the foes kept changing. Ranking Battle Order The order I fought them in isn't the same as the order of occurrence in the guide. Mine Guide Name ==== ===== ============================== 1 1 The Bandits 2 2 AAAAAAAA 3 3 Ghost Hunters 4 4 Beowulf 5 5 Secure or Not? 6 6 Twin Beast 7 8 Berserkers 8 7 Frog Warriors 9 9 Tiamat 10 10 Arch-Summoners 11 11 Get 'Em! Twin Beast 12 12 Knights of Babylon 13 14 Soldiers of Mu 14 13 Angels of Flame 15 15 Three Warriors of Flame 16 16 Bloody Stream 17 17 Eurus of the East Wind 18 18 Notus of the South Wind 19 19 Boreas of the North Wind 20 20 Zephyrus of the West Wind 21 21 Don't Lose! Twin Beast 22 23 Player Killers 23 22 Knight Roseria 24 24 Wild Blood 25 26 Gigantomakia 26 27 The Three Gurus 27 25 Imperial Guard 28 28 Silent Hammer 29 30 Spirit Mediums 30 29 Double Edge 31 32 Daddy's Little Rich Boys 32 31 Go! Go! Twin Beast 33 33 Dragon Eyes 34 34 Red Ram 35 36 Undead Masters 36 35 Magic Users 37 37 Insect Lords 38 39 Armored Knights 39 38 Insect Lords 40 40 Chukobher (guide spells it Chukober) 41 41 Twin Beast Yahoo! 42 42 We'll Show You 43 43 White Lilly Battlefield (I spelled it Lily) 44 45 Sherwood 45 44 Bourgeoisie (guide spells it Bourgeoise) 46 46 Knights of the Bloody Sword (guide spells it Bloddy) 47 49 Demon Lords 48 48 Knights of the Sacred Beast 49 50 Dragoon Knights 50 47 Tornado I have not defeated the Reigning Champions. |
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| Fayt | Oct 7 2009, 05:34 PM Post #11 |
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Impressive set of notes, well presented out too. As for the Ranking Battle I think that will vary for every player. I noticed that at the others will exchange their rating by up to a few places from time to time - assuming that they also fight each other and switch ratings. |
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| asa | Oct 8 2009, 01:45 AM Post #12 |
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Just when I thought it was done, I find my Firewall notes. Firewall Paths (going in) Much of Firewall is not necessary to use for getting from the beginning to the end. The following instructions are the "direct route". Getting back out is not so direct. Do not try to go back out the same way. It won't work. Part 1 +-----------------------------------------------+-+-----+ |....../ _____________ \......................| |.....| |..../ /.............\ \........____________| |.....| |../ /.................\ / \...../ ____________|.....| |/ /.....................\ \./ /..................| | /.........................\ /....................| | |........................../ /......................| | |......................../ /........................| |-|.....................................................| | |.....................................................| | |.....................................................| | |.....................................................| | |.....................................................| | |_____| |.............................................| | __|__ |.............................................| |_|.....| |.............................................| |.......| |.............................................| |.......| |.............................................| |.......| |.............................................| |.......| |.............................................| |.......| |.............................................| |.......|-|.............................................| |.......| |.............................................| |.......| |.............................................| |.......| \..........................| |...............| |........\ \........................| \..............| |..........\ \...................../ \............| |............\ \_________________/ /.\ \..........| |..............\___________|_______ <....\ \........| |..................................\ \.....\ \......| |....................................\ \_____\ \__..| |......................................\______ _____..| |.............................................| |.......| |.............................................| |.......| |.............................................| |.......| |.............................................|-|.......| |.............................................| |.......| +---------------------------------------------+-+-------+ Left through first door Through next door Left through first door Through next two doors Left to door to Part 2 The guide combines part 2 and part 3 into the "Second Half". Part 2 +----------------------------------------------------+-+----------+ |....................................................| |..........| |....................................................| |..........| |....................................................| |_.........| |....................................................|_ |........| |......................................................| |........| |......................................................| |........| |......................................................| |........| |...........................________________________...| |........| |...............___________| _______________ __ |..| |........| |..............._ __|____ |.............._| |__| .. |........| |................| |.......|__.............._ ____|..| |_.......| |................| |.........................| |.......|_ |......| |................| |.........................|-|.........| |......| |................| |____________________...._| |_________| |......| |................| __|_____________ _....__________|__ |......| |................| |................| |..................| |......| |................................___| |_..........................| |...............................| ___ |.........................| |...............................| |...| |.........................| |...............................| |...............................| |...............................| |...............................| |...............................| |___| |.........................| |...............................| ___ |.........................| |...............................| |...| |.........................| |......_........................| |...............................| |...._| |.......................| |...............................| |...._ |____| |________________| |_..............................| |.....| ____ ______|_____________..............................| |.....| |....| |..................................................| |.....| |.........................................................| |.....| |.........................................................| |.....| |.........................................................| |...._| |.........................................................| |.._| _|.........................................................| |.._ |...........................................................| |...| |...........................................................| |...| \...........................................................| |....\ \......| |/ /............................................| |......\ \....| /..............................................| |........\ \./ /................................................| |..........\ /..................................................| |...........| |...................................................| |...........| |...................................................| |...........| |...................................................| |...........| |...................................................| |...........| |...................................................| +-----------+-+---------------------------------------------------+ Right through second door Left, then left through door Right, then right through third door Forward on left side to end Right, right, left through door Left through door Left-forward (left-right jog)through door to Part 3 Part 3 +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ |......Save Point.....................................................| |.....\/............Save Point.............................._________.| |.______.__........\/......................................| _|____ || || * |......__________...............................| |...| || || |_____| * __ |.......| |_____| |____________| |...| * || <- Switch #6 || * __|__ /...| |_______| _________________|__ |...|___|| || |.....| /.....|___________|....................| |........| ||______.__|.....| |.......................................| |........| |.......^................................................._| |........| |.......Switch #8........................................| _|........| |........................................................| |..........| |........................................................| |..........| |........................................................| |..........| +--------------------------------------------------------+-+----------+ Right through door - flip switch Return through door Continue left until save point Edited by asa, Oct 8 2009, 01:29 PM.
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