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| Loto Vialo | Jun 6 2010, 10:37 AM Post #21 |
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The only problem is you've only been testing the combat for the shinigami a.k.a soul reapers. I haven't seen the combat system tested with Bounts, Quincy or Hollows. I imagine they would require different needs of use since they don't have the same abilities of a shinigami. In other words you can't say the combat system just needs to be tested to be finished when the other three haven't been taken into consideration for the system. |
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| Bishonen_Pimp | Jun 6 2010, 11:10 AM Post #22 |
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Only the names of their abilities are really different. Bount and Quincy are just Soul Reapers with similar abilities that are named different, Quincy Hirenkyaku or Hollow Sonido = Soul Reaper Flash Step. Not saying a Quincy/Hollow test wouldn't be bad, but not necessarily needed. |
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Zekes_Rival: You see, what they don't show is that when Gato ovary-punched Nina, he aborted Kou Uraki's baby and replaced it with his own seed. Zekes_Rival: Vist was like "Oh dear! I am scared old man!" and LondoBell was like "Lol!" and then Vist was like "ROFLMAO JUST KIDDING! -neck snap-" Fate: OG: Koji should know, he confused him for a loli. <--- ... I will kill you. :P OG: Koji should know, he confused him for a loli. Kojiru: No, Fate is a 13 year old evil child genius bent on world domination. | |
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| Drathmar Darkstar | Jun 6 2010, 03:26 PM Post #23 |
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I found a site that lists all the canon kido, as well as fan made ons to fill in some of hte blanks that are not to powerful, and the ones i read seemed well made. Here is the link: http://bleachfanfiction.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Kido |
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| Bishonen_Pimp | Jun 6 2010, 04:56 PM Post #24 |
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Wanted to point this out because Drath brought it up. I don't like the idea of banning powers/zanpakuto/weapon types unless they are getting spammed with everyone and their cousin having them. This current idea is regarding Illusion-type Zanpakuto (and weapons/powers like them). First a definition: Weaker to as strong: Anyone with a smaller reiatsu/focus pool and up to 10% greater then your own. Ie. If you have a reiatsu/focus pool of 1000, anyone with less than or up to 1100 reiatsu focus is weaker and/or as strong as you are. Anyone with 1150 reiatsu/focus is stronger then you. Rules regarding Illusion-type Zanpakuto (powers/weapons): 1. Illusion-type powers affect all five senses of the body (sight, sound, smell, taste, and touch). Other types of Zanpakuto can create illusions also, however they may not affect all five senses, only those their element would affect, for ie. a Light-type Zanpakuto would only affect sight. Kido-type Zanpakuto can affect all senses but 1, ie. Tosen's Suzumushi affects only one sense in shikai, and all senses but touch in bankai. 2. Illusion-type powers are not permanent. After the fight is done, regardless who wins, the illusion/hypnosis ends until used/activated again. 3. Illusion-type powers can only affect those weaker or as strong as you. Opponents who are stronger are unaffected by the illusions/hypnosis/hallucinations power. Zanpakuto who use a separate item to create said effect, ie. a Plant-type power using spores, is not affected by this rule. 4. Opponents who are stronger are only able to discern the illusion by sensing the wielder's reiatsu. Their senses are still affected, so unless they are 2x or stronger then you (ie. if you have 1000 reiatsu/focus, they would have to have 2000 reiatsu/focus), they are still initially affected by the illusion. EDIT: 5. Illusion-type Zanpakuto have no form of direct attack or defense. They simply create an illusion or hallucination. A zanpakuto can't not put an opponent into an illusionary world and then fire off a blast of energy at the opponent. What do you guys think? Edited by Bishonen_Pimp, Jun 6 2010, 05:12 PM.
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Zekes_Rival: You see, what they don't show is that when Gato ovary-punched Nina, he aborted Kou Uraki's baby and replaced it with his own seed. Zekes_Rival: Vist was like "Oh dear! I am scared old man!" and LondoBell was like "Lol!" and then Vist was like "ROFLMAO JUST KIDDING! -neck snap-" Fate: OG: Koji should know, he confused him for a loli. <--- ... I will kill you. :P OG: Koji should know, he confused him for a loli. Kojiru: No, Fate is a 13 year old evil child genius bent on world domination. | |
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| Bishonen_Pimp | Jun 6 2010, 05:32 PM Post #25 |
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Drath pointed this out concerning the above so here is the correction. 1. Definition of touch: the ability to sense touch, weight, feel. An illusion that affects touch can make a feather feel in all aspects like an apple. However tricking touch does not mean you can hide pain and wounds from an opponent. If you stab an opponent they'll feel it. 2. Illusion types in shikai can only affect 4/6 of the bodies senses (sight, sound, smell, touch, taste, and sensing of reiatsu). Illusion types in bankai are able to affect all 6 senses for those which affect the wielder only. Illusion-types which affect the opponents can only affect 5/6 senses. 3. Taste may not be one of the abilities a shikai illusion-type zanpakuto doesn't affect. |
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Zekes_Rival: You see, what they don't show is that when Gato ovary-punched Nina, he aborted Kou Uraki's baby and replaced it with his own seed. Zekes_Rival: Vist was like "Oh dear! I am scared old man!" and LondoBell was like "Lol!" and then Vist was like "ROFLMAO JUST KIDDING! -neck snap-" Fate: OG: Koji should know, he confused him for a loli. <--- ... I will kill you. :P OG: Koji should know, he confused him for a loli. Kojiru: No, Fate is a 13 year old evil child genius bent on world domination. | |
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| Drathmar Darkstar | Jun 6 2010, 06:51 PM Post #26 |
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Me and Noah were talking and we decided (I think at least) that we should use the bleach wiki system for a basic stat system (just a basis, like we used the MS stats for a basis in gundam). The four categories are: Hoho (agility) Hakuda (hand-to-hand) Zanjutsu (swordmanship) Kido (demon magic) and you can be user/expert/master in each. people choose to either be expert in all (balanced types) or they can master in a type but then have to go to user in another type so they could go expert, expert, user, master, or master, master, user, user. Also, using this system with Kido it would go like this for who can use what Kido: User: Use 1-39 kido, have to use incantations (unless there is none for it) Expert: Use 1-69 kido, can use no incantation for half power, or incantation (where available) for full Master: use all kido, can use no incantation and use full power to learn then you learn them based on 10% of your reaitsu/focus. So at 200/200 you can use 1-29, 300/300 1-39, 800/800 1-89 (but must be master to use above 69), and at 900/900 you can use all. The only problem I see with that is being able to use all kido but not bankai, though if they are a master that might not necessarily be a problem since is means they are more focused on kido than on swordsmanship and relating to their zanpakuto. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if hinamori (who I would think of as at least close to a master) learning the high level kido before bankai. Discuss. |
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| Bishonen_Pimp | Jun 14 2010, 02:49 PM Post #27 |
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Going over a preliminary of Quincy powers and how they would be used with the combat system. As a rough right now, as someone had pointed this out, instead of gaining reiatsu/etc. per action, Quincy gain it per post. The 'basic' quincy action (their main weapon is the spirit arrow they fire) is -10 reiatsu / -10 focus (gaining no reiatsu and only doing damage). Additionally much like the flash step, the Quincy Hirenkyaku costs +10 reiatsu / -20 focus. However unlike shinigami, bounts, hollows, etc. Quincy gain reiatsu per post. In the Human World, Quincy gain +40 reiatsu (at the beginning of the post) per post while in Soul Society or Hueco Mundo they gain +100 reiatsu per post. I've also thought of a low +20 reiatsu (human world) and +50 reiatsu (soul society/hueco mundo) and on the other end of the spectrum +100 reiatsu (human world) and +200 reiatsu (soul society/hueco mundo) but haven't decided what to test either way. It could also be done by their skill as a Quincy, since in the series it is said that the stronger and more skilled the Quincy, the easier it is for them to absorb reiashi/reiryoku. Thoughts/comments? |
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Zekes_Rival: You see, what they don't show is that when Gato ovary-punched Nina, he aborted Kou Uraki's baby and replaced it with his own seed. Zekes_Rival: Vist was like "Oh dear! I am scared old man!" and LondoBell was like "Lol!" and then Vist was like "ROFLMAO JUST KIDDING! -neck snap-" Fate: OG: Koji should know, he confused him for a loli. <--- ... I will kill you. :P OG: Koji should know, he confused him for a loli. Kojiru: No, Fate is a 13 year old evil child genius bent on world domination. | |
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| Drathmar Darkstar | Jun 14 2010, 03:03 PM Post #28 |
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Actually considering we've been gaining what? Roughly 50 reiatsu per post in soul society it's not bad, plus their attacks don't gain them reiatsu. I would go with the lower end though since they still have their version of flash step as well. If you want to set up a fight to test it, shinigami vs quincy, i'll play the quincy. |
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| Bishonen_Pimp | Jun 14 2010, 03:05 PM Post #29 |
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DP Going further into the idea, borrowing from the potential shinigami/etc. skill idea, I came up with this scenario: Novice Skill (req. 500 reiatsu/focus or less) - 50 (hw) / 100 (ss,hm) Practiced Skill (req. 1000 reiatsu/focus or less) - 100 (hw) / 200 (ss,hm) Expert Skill (req. 2000 reiatsu/focus or less) - 150 (hw) / 300 (ss,hm) Mastery Skill (req. 4000 reiatsu/focus or less) - 200 (hw) / 400 (ss,hm) Ultimate Skill (req. 8000+ reiatsu/focus or less) - 250 (hw) / 500 (ss,hm) hw = human world, ss = soul society, hm = heuco mundo The Quincy's ability to absorb reiryoku is determined by how powerful they are and what environment they are in. |
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Zekes_Rival: You see, what they don't show is that when Gato ovary-punched Nina, he aborted Kou Uraki's baby and replaced it with his own seed. Zekes_Rival: Vist was like "Oh dear! I am scared old man!" and LondoBell was like "Lol!" and then Vist was like "ROFLMAO JUST KIDDING! -neck snap-" Fate: OG: Koji should know, he confused him for a loli. <--- ... I will kill you. :P OG: Koji should know, he confused him for a loli. Kojiru: No, Fate is a 13 year old evil child genius bent on world domination. | |
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