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Is it morally acceptable to milk cows?
Topic Started: Sun Dec 30 23:11:01 GMT 2007 (300 Views)
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Let's think about this for a moment. Cows are not humans. We are not biologically meant to drink the milk of cows. People who are lactose intolerant are actually the normal ones, by nature's standards.

I propose that the slavery should be stopped now, and that all current cattle milk farms should be replaced by girl milk farms.

Discuss.
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I believe it is morally acceptable to milk cows. Many species are getting advantages from others like some birds cleaning up bigger animals and such. You stated that it's not 'natural', but who are humans to decide what is natural or not? Just because it hasn't been done by other species, it doesn't mean that it's not natural.
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Humans are the epitome of unnaturalness, though. We do dump chemicals into the air, water and ground, and we do slaughter loads of plants and animals every year to make way for ourselves. And, technically, if other animals don't do it, then it's probably more likely that we're the weird ones than any of the other animals.
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Although that proves that humans destroy and abuse nature in many cases, it does not prove that milking cows is unnatural nor does it give us the right to say what is natural or not, unless we define natural as how most non-human living beings act.
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I'm saying that natural is anything that several species share with each other, with a few exceptions. At any rate, there is no other species that drinks the milk of another species. So, therefore, it's not natural. However, it would be perfectly natural to harvest the milk of a girl, and as long as it is done with their consent and they are treated well, it's not an issue.
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According to www.thefreedictionnary.com , natural means...

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1. Present in or produced by nature: a natural pearl.
2. Of, relating to, or concerning nature: a natural environment.
3. Conforming to the usual or ordinary course of nature: a natural death.
4.
a. Not acquired; inherent: Love of power is natural to some people.
b. Having a particular character by nature: a natural leader.
c. Biology Not produced or changed artificially; not conditioned: natural immunity; a natural reflex.
5. Characterized by spontaneity and freedom from artificiality, affectation, or inhibitions. See Synonyms at naive.
6. Not altered, treated, or disguised: natural coloring; natural produce.
7. Faithfully representing nature or life.
8. Expected and accepted: "In Willie's mind marriage remained the natural and logical sequence to love" Duff Cooper.
9. Established by moral certainty or conviction: natural rights.
10. Being in a state regarded as primitive, uncivilized, or unregenerate.


It is Natural because
1. Drinking Cow milk is present in nature,
2. it is related to nature,
8. it is expected and accepted and
10. is primitive (We have been drinking it for ages).

It could not natural because
3. It is not conforming to the natural course of nature. (Children drink milk from the mother until they are grown up),
6. it is acquired because humans learned of the Milk's properties and began drinking it,
7. It is not faithfully representing nature.

The natural course of nature is everchanging however. ANimals of all kind adapt differently to changes, the more intelligent they are, the faster they adapt. It is a natural phenomenon.HUmans adapting to their need of vitamins and such would then be following the course of nature.

Faithfully representing nature remains a weak reason to tag is as unatural, since not making 'Nature' change and adapt would be a good thing in the eyes of a Conservatist and a bad thing in the eyes of those who are looking for change.


Also, whether it is natural or not does not mean that it is a good or bad thing (morally acceptable). We should focus on the effects of cow milking and whether they are good or bad. You can go first.
Edited by Gabriel, Mon Dec 31 0:44:43 GMT 2007.
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sweetfairychild
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we need their milk for survival, no matter what. it was the calcium some things don't...
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We don't need it for survival. We have other products to count for calcium. I can't think of examples at the moment, but if I wasn't lazy I could give some. It is, however, natural, because it is related to nature, it comes from nature, and I don't disapprove of it even if it wasn't natural, because it does not harm the cow. The cow doesn't care about being milked unless it was wrongly done. Some great points were made in here.
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ManicMica is right! and if a cow doesn't get milked bad things can happen. At least according to what i hear on tv...
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