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Gorean Question,and Qoutes
Topic Started: Jul 28 2010, 08:17 PM (2,641 Views)
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AFTER STUDYING THE MAP? YOU NOW KNOW THAT
TA-SARDAR-VAR MEANS "TURNING TO THE
sARDARS" ON THE GOREAN COMPASS WHAT
TERM IS USED TO INDICATE THE TRUE
OPPOSITE DIRECTION AWAY FROM THE SARDARS?

"accordingly the main division of the map
are ta-sardar-var and the other seven taking
the sardar as our "north pole" the other directions
clockwise as earth clocks (gorean clock hands move
in the opposite direction) would be first Ta-Sardar-van
then vask (sometimes spoken of as verus var or the
true turning away)"

NOMADS OF GOR PAGE 3

NODDING YOU ARE COMING TO GRIPS WITH THE GOREAN COMPASS
TA-SARDAR-VAR "TURNING TO THE SARDARS"AND VASK OR VERUS
VAR "THE TRUE TURNING AWAY" WHAT ARE THE OTHER DIRECTIONS
ON THE GOREAN COMPASS?

"Accordingly the main divisions of the map are Ta-Sardar-Var
and the other seven taking the Sardar as our "north pole" the
other direction clockwise as earth clocks move (gorean clock hands
move in the opposite direction) would be first ta-sardar-var then in
order ror,rim,tun,vask(sometimes spoken of as verus var or the true turning
away)cart klim and kail and then again of course ta-sardar-var"

NOMADS OF GOR PAGE 3
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LAR-TORVIS IS THE LESS COMMONLY USED NAME
FOR THE SUN.WHAT IS THE OTHER MORE COMMON
EXPRESSION?

"oddly enough one of the expressions in the
tongue of gor for our sun was Lar-Torvis which
means the central fire another pythagorean
expression except that it had not been as I
understand it originally used by the Pythagoreans
to refer to the sun but to another body the more
common expression for the sun was Tor-tu-gor"

TARNSMAN OF GOR PAGE 16
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WE KNOW THAT PRIEST KINGS CONTROL THE INVENTION
OF TECHNOLOGIES FOR WAR COMMUNICATION AND OTHER
MILITARY EQUIPMENT FAMILIAR ON EARTH WHAT HAPPEN
IF DESPITE THE BAN A HUMAN OF GOR DEVELOP ONE OF THE
FORBIDDEN WEAPONS?


"on the other hand " he said you will learn tht in lighting
shelter agricultural techniques and
medicine for example the Mortals or the Men below the Mountains
are relatively advanced he looked at me amused i think You wonder he
said why the numerous rather obvious deficits in our technolgy have not
been required in spite of the priest kings it crosses your mind that
ther must exist minds on this world capable of designing such things
as say rifles and armored vehicles surely these things must be produced i
urged and you are right he said grim;y from time to time they are but their
owners are then destroyed bursting into flame like the envelope of blue metal yes
it is flame death merely to possess a weapon of the interdicted sort sometimes
bold individuals create or acquire such war materials and sometimes for as long as a
year escape the flame death but sooner or later they are struck down his eyes
were hard i once saw it happen he said

TARNSMAN OF GOR

TRUE OR FALS THE LEAVES FROM THE RENNEL PLANT ARE USED TO SPICE UP GOREAN MEALS

"the wagon peoples are fascinated with the future and itssigns and though to hear them
speak they put no store in such matters yet they do
in practice give them great conideration i was told by kamchak that once an army
of thousand wagons turned aside because a swarm of rennels poisonous crablight
desert insects did not defend its broken nest crushed by
the wheel of the lead wagon

NOMADS OF GOR PAGE 27

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THIS TWO HANDLED NARRO NECKED
VESSEL WITH A POINTED BASE IS BURIED
IN THE GROUND TO KEEP THINGS COOL
WHAT IS IT CALLED?

"it would have been stored overnight i assumed in an amphora
buried to the neck in the cool earth sometimes earth girls
first brought to gor do not understand why so many of these
two handled narrow necked vessels have such a narrow usually
pointed base for they cannto stand upright on such a base they
have not yet learmed that these vessels are not intoded to stand
upright rather they are commonly fitted into a storage hole buried
there to keep their contents cool the necks above the earth the pointed
base of course presses into the soft earth at the bottom of the storage
hole"

MERCENARIES OF GOR PAGE 257
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THERE ARE MANY DRINKS IN GOR BOTH
ALCOHOLIC AND NON-ALCOHOLIC SOME ARE
REGIONAL SOME ARE MORE WIDE SPREAD THIS
COMMON DRINK IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO THE
NOMADS OF THE DESERTS OF GOR AS WELL AS THE INUIT
OF THE NORTH WHAT IS THIS DRINK?

"in turn from the oases the nomads receive most importantly Sa_Tarna
grain and the bazi tea....tea is extremely important to the nomads
it is served hot and heavily sugared it gives them
strength then in virtue of the sugar and cools them by
making them sweat as well as stimulationg them it is drunk three small
cups at a time carefully measured "

TRIBESMEN OF GOR PAGES 37-38
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IS THERE POWDERED MILK ON GOR?

"i brought up from the kitchen where i had been where i had been keeping it hot a vessel of black
wine with sugars and cups and spoons too i had brought up a small bowl of powered bosk milk we had
finished the creams last night and in any event it was unlikely they would have lasted the night if i had wanted
have had to have gone to the market"

GUARDSMAN OF GOR PAGE 295
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THREE BEASTS ON GOR ARE HAVESTED
FOR THEIR MILK CAN YOU NAME THEM?

'the wagon people grow no food nor do they have
manufacturing as we know it they are herders and it
is said killers they eat nothing that has touched the dirt
they live on the meat and milk of the bask"

NOMADS OF GOR PAGE 4

"verr are to be milked the eggs of vulos
gathered and the sleen must be watered and
fed and their cages cleaned"

SLAVE GIRL OF GOR PAGE 229

"Kailla milk like verr milk is used by
the people of the tahari it is reddish
and has a strong salty taste features
which one supposes are connecte
with some sort of climatological
adaptation it has a high iron content
men do not drink it unless water is
not plentiful"

TRIBERSMEN OF GOR PAGE 71
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THIS ALCOHOLIC DRINK IS SWEET SYUPY FLAVORED
WITH SPICES AND SUGARED TO THE POINT WHERE ONE
CAN ALMOST LEAVE A FINGERRING ON THE SURFACE WHAT
IS THE DRINK?

"i did not much care for the sweet syrupy wind of Turia flovored and
sugared to the point where one could almost leave one's fingerprint on
their surface"

NOMADS OF GOR PAGE 85

"it was a turian saying they used wines
in which as a matter of fact things could
be and were upon occasion stirred mostly
spices and sugar "

NOMADS OF GOR PAGE 205

"before them had been placed large
golden dishes heaped with delivacies
prepared by the kitchens of the Ubar
tall precious goblets filled with turian wines
the small bowls of spices and sugars with
their stirring spoons at hand"

NOMADS OF GOR PAGE 262
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THIS IS A MOUTH BURNING CONCOCTION
ESPECIALLY POPULAR WITH SOME OF THE
LOWER CASTS PARTICULARLY THOSE WHO
PERFORM STRENUOUS LABORS IT IS MADE OF
DILUTED WINE,JUICE AND SPICES WHAT IS IT?

"Kal-da is a hot drink almost scalding made of diluted
ka-la-na wine mixed with citrus juices and stinging spice
i did not care much for this mouth burning concoction
but it was popular with some of the lower castes particularly
those who performed strenuous manual labor i expected its
popularity was due more to its capacity to warm a man and
stick to his ribs and its cheapness a poor grade of ka la na wine
being used in its brewing than to any gustatory excellence"

OUTLAW OF GOR PAGE 178

"behind the counter the thin bald headed proprietor his
forehead glistening his slick black apron
stained with spices juices and wine busily
worked his long mixing paddle in a vast
pot of bubbling kal-da my nose wrinkled
there was no mistaking the smell of brewing
kal-da"

OUTLAW OF GOR PAGE 178


THIS DRINK SIMILAR TO A COMMON
EARTH BEVERAGE IS CONSIDERED A RARE
AND UNUSUAL LUXURY OUTSIDE THE
REGION IN WHICH THE BASE INGREDIENT
IS GROWN EVEN IN THAT REGION IT IS MORE
COMMONLY DRANK AMONGST THE HIGHER
CASTE WHAT IS THE DRINK AND WHERE IS THE
BASE INGREDIENT GROWN?

"the air was fresh and beutiful soon i smelled the frying
of vulo eggs in a large flat pan and the unmistakable
odor of coffee or as the goreans express it black wine
the beans grow largely on the slopes of the Thentis mountains
the original beans i suppose had been brought like certain
other gorean products from Earth it is not impossible of course
that the opposite in the case that black wine is native to gor and
that the origin of Earth's coffee beans is gorean i regard this as
unlikely however because black wine is far more common on Earth
than on gor where it is except for the city of Thentis a city famed for
her tarn flocks and her surrounding villages a somewhat rare and unusual
luxury"

SLAVE GIRL OF GOR PAGE 76

IN THE NORTH THIS DRINK MADE FROM FERMENTED HONEY
WATER AND SPICES TENDS TO BE FAVORED OVER PAGA
WHAT IS THE DRINK?

"in the north generally mead made with fermented honey and water
and often spices and such tends to be favored over paga"

VAGABONDS OF GOR PAGE 11
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WITHIN THE CONCEPT OF DOUBLE
KNOWLEDGE WHICH GROUP OF
PEOPLE IS TAUGHT SECOND KNOWLEDGE

"i wondered however if the Second Knowledge
that of the intellectuals might not be as carefully
tailored to preclude inquiry on their level as the
first knowledge apparently was to preclude inquiry
on the level of the lower castes i would guess that
there is a third knowledge that reserved to the priest
kings"

TARNSMAN OF GOR PAGE 27

THERE IS WITHIN THE CULTURE
OF GOR THE CONCEPT OF DOUBLE
KNOWLEDGE EXPLAIN THE NATURE
OF DOUBLE KNOWLEDGE

"i was also instructed in the double knowledge
that is i was instructed in what the people
on the whole believed and then i was instructed
in what the intellectuals were to know sometimes
there as a surprising discrepancy between the two for
example the population as a whole the caste below
the high castes were encouraged to believe that their world
was a broad flat disk perhaps this was to dicourage them from
exploration or to develop in them a habit of relying on common
sense prejudices something of a social control device
on the other hand the high caste specifically the warriors,builder
scribes initiates and physicians were told the truth in such matters
perhaps because it was thought they would eventually determine it
themselves from observations such as the shadow of their planet on
on one or another of gor's three small moon during eclipses the phenomenon
of sighting the tops of distant objects firs and the fact that certain stars
could not be seen from certain geographical positions if the planet had been
flat precisely the same set of stars would have been observable from every
position on its serface"

TARNSMAN OF GOR PAGE 27
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ECONOMICALLY THIS CASTE IS THE
BASE OF GOREAN LIFE THE MOST
FUNDAMENTAL OF CASTE

"economically the base of the gorean life
was the free peasant which was perhaps
the lowest but undoubtedly the most
fundamental caste"

TARNSMAN OF GOR PAGE 29

THE STAPLE CROP GROWN ON GOR
IS A YELLOW GRAIN CALLED SA-TARNA
INTO ENGLISH WHAT WOULD IT MEAN?

"economically the base of the gorean life was
the free peasant which was perhaps the lowest
but undoubtedly the most fundamental caste
and the staple crop was a yellow grain called
sa-tarna or life daughter"

TARNSMAN OF GOR PAGE 29

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YOU ARE A SLAVE A MAN HAS GIVEN
YOU AN ORDER TO BRING HIM A BOWL
OF PAGA ARE YOU RISE HE STERNLY SAYS
"HAR-TA" WHAT DO YOU DO?

"I shouted to my tarn in gorean and in english
"har-ta har-ta faster faster"

TARNSMAN OF GOR PAGE 40

THE TARN WHISTLE IS USED TO SUMMON
A TARN WHAT IS UNIQUE ABOUT THIS WHISTLE?

"the older Tarl had mounted his tarn climbing up the
five rung leather which hangs on the left side of the
saddle and is pulled up in flight he fastened himself in
the saddle with a broad purple strap he tossed me a
small object which nearly fell from my fumbling hands
it was a tarn whistle with its own note which would
summon one tarn and one tarn only the mount which was
intended for me"

TARNSMAN OF GOR PAGE 36

THE TARN IS ONE OF THE TWO MOST
COMMON MOUNTS OF A GOREAN WARRIOR
WHAT IS THE OTHER?

"the tarn is one of the two most common mounts of a
gorean warrior the other is the high tharlarion a species
of saddle lizard used mostly by clans who have never
mastered tarns"

TARNSMAN OF GOR PAGE 26

THE WORD FOR MEAT OR FOOD IN
GENERAL IS TRANSLATED INTO ENGLISH
AS LIFE-MOTHER WHAT IS THE GOREAN
PHRASE?

"interestingly enough the word for meat is sa-Tassna
which means life Mother incidentally when one speaks
of food in general one always speaks of sa-tassna"

TARNSMAN OF GOR PAGE 29
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YOU ARE TRAVELING ON THE EDGE OF THE
BARRENS THE LAND OF THE RED SAVAGES.POSTED
AT THE EDGE OF THE LANDS ARE TALL WANDS
SEVEN OR EIGHT FEET HIGH FROM ITS TOP THERE
DANGLE TWO LONG NARROW YELLOW BLACK TIPPED
FEATHERS FROM THE TAIL OF THE SUN STRIKER WHAT IS THE
GOREAN NAME FOR THIS BIRD?

the wand before us was some seven or eight feet high it is of this height
apparently that it may be seen above the snow during the winter moons
such as waniyetuwi and wanicokanwi it was peeled ka la na wood and from
its top there dangled two long narrow yellow black tipped feathers from the
tail of the taloned herlit a large broad winged carnivorous bird sometimes in
gorean called the sun striker

SAVAGES OF GOR PAGE 143

THERE ARE SEVERAL CASTES ASSOCIATED
WITH THE COLORS BROWN AND BLACK?

i knew him now he was the fellow whose back i had
seen in the restaurant from a distance i had not
been able to place at that time his identity he no
longer now wore the brown and black common to
professional sleen trainers he wore as i merchant robes

BEASTS OF GOR 78

THIS WELL KNOWN GOREAN CASTE WEAR THE COLOR
BLUE AND YELLOW CAN YOU NAME THE CASTE?

once there was a visitor to the pens a tall stranger partially
hooded who wore robes of blue and yellow silk those of
the slavers he over his left eye a strip of leather which was
wound about his head he was shown through our section of
the pens by Targo

CAPTIVE OF GOR PAGE 198

EACH GROUP IN THE GOREAN CASTE SYSTEM
HAS A COLOR ASSOCIATED WITH IT THE BOOKS
OF THE GOREAN SAGA PROVIDE US WITH A FEW OF
THOSE COLOR DESIGNATION THIS GROUP ONE OF THE
LOW CASTE WEAR THE COLORS YELLOW AND BROWN
CAN YOU NAME IT"

i stayed for four days in the rooms above the shop of Dina of Turia
there i dyed my hair black and exchanged the robes of the merchant
for the yellow and brown tunic of the bakers to which caste her father
and two brothers had belonged at one time i gathered from Dina her
fathers shop had been the most famed of the baking shops of Turia as
gorean custom would require by members of the caste of bakers

NOMADS OF GOR PAGE 237
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YOU COME UPON A MASTER AND SLAVE
HE IS POINTING TO THE GROUND AT HIS
FEET THE SLAVE TREMBLING A TEAR ROLLING
DOWN HER CHEEK KNEELS QUICKLY CROSSES HER
WRISTS BEFORE HER AS IF BOUND THEN FOLDS HER
BODY LOWERING HER HEAD TO THE STONES EXPOSING
THE BOW OF HER BACK WHAT DO YOU THINK WILL
HAPPEN NEXT?

"i went to Targo trembling and knelt at His feet my head to the
boards of the floor i crossed my wrists beneath me
and touched my head to the floor exposing the bow of my back
it is the submissive posture of a slave girl who is to
be punished it is called kneeling to the whip i shook
visibly at his feet"

CAPTIVE OF GOR PAGE 200

STANDING ON THE DOCKS YOU WATCH AS A SHIP TURNS AND
HEADS OUT INTO THE CALM WATERS OF THE THASSA YOU STARE
IN AMAZEMENT AT THE SHIP ARE THOSE EYES? YOU LOOK CLOSER YES THE
SHIP HAS EYES WHY WOULD EYES BE PAINTED ON THE BOW OF THE
SHIP?

"the eyes of the ship painted on either side of the bow would now have turned toward
the opening of the harbor of Telnus ships of gor of whatever class or type always have
eyes painted on them either in a head surmounting the prow as in tarn ships or as in
the Rena as in round ships on either side of the bow it is the last thing that is done for the
ship before it is first launched the painting of the eyes reflects the gorean seamans belief
that the ship is a living thing she is accordingly given eyes that she may see her way"

RAIDERS OF GOR PAGE 183

IN THE DARKNESS YOU STRAIN TO SEE THE SOURCE
OF THE NOISE IN THE BURSY YOU SEE WHAT YOU
THINK MIGHT BE A HUGE LIZARD BUT AS THE MOONLIGHT
STRIKES IT YOU SEE THAT SINEWY BODY IS COVERED IN
FUR LONG AND THICK ITS EYES CATCH THE LIGHT AND FLASH LIKE
RED COPPER IT SNARLS IT HAS SIX LEGS WHAT IS IT?

"i saw it in the darkness emerging from the brush i thought at first because
of its sinuous movement that it was a great snake but it was
not i throught seeing it holding itself closely to the ground but yet free of the
ground that it might be a long bodied lizard then as moonlight fell through the tree
branches in a pattern across its snout and neck i swa not scales but rippled fur long and
thick its eye caught the light and flashed like burning copper it snarled i gasped it had six
legs it was perhaps twenty feet in length perhaps eleven hundred pounds in weight
it approached sinuously hissing it is called a sleen"

SLAVE GIRL OF GOR PAGE 38

A SLAVE IS BROUGHT BEFORE HER NEW OWNER SHE KNEELS
AND TO HER ASTONISHMENTS SHE FINDS HERSELF IN FAMILIAR
SURROUNDINGS SHE IS BACK IN THE HOME STONE FROM WHICH
SHE WAS CAPTURED AS A FREE WOMAN TAKEN AWAY AND ENSLAVED
A MAN SHE KNOWS AS HER FATHER STANDS LOOKING DOWN HER
WHAT DO YOU THINK WILL BE THE GIRLS FATE?

"as a last remark it might be noted that it is generally understand that any woman who
becomes a slave should be kept a slave"

as an extreme example let us suppose that the daughter of a household is captured carried away
and enslaved then let us suppose that she say through exchanges buyings and sellings and such is
recovered by her family they will not free her but disowning her will keep her as a slave as any
other slave in the house she will serve as any other slave and as any other slave if her work is not
satisfactory will be lashed. eventually onces she has fully understand how she has shamed and humiliated
her family she will be sold out of the house as might be any other slave cast her into the markets she
is now only goods it is the gorean way

KUR OF GOR PAGE 56

THE HERLIT IS A LARGE BROAD WINGED CARNIVOROUS
BIRD SOMETIMES CALLED THE SUN STRIKER WHY DOES IT
HAVE THAT NAME?


"the wand before us was some seve or eight feet high it is of this
height apparently that it may be seen above the snow during the winter
moons such as waniyetuwi and wanicokanwi it was of peeled ka la na wood
and from its top there dangled two long narrow yello black tipped feathers from
the tail of the taloned herlit a large broad winged carnivorous bird sometimes in
gorean called the sun striker or more literally though in clumsier english out of the
dun it strikes presumably from its habit of making its descent and strike on prey like the
tarn with the sun above and behind it similar wands i could see some two hundred yards away
on either side to the left and right"

SAVAGES OF GOR PAGE 143
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