Religion is up-itself.

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Religion is up-itself.
Topic Started: Nov 7 2009, 04:11 AM (65 Views)
Bunny	Nov 7 2009, 04:11 AM Post #1
A Godless life seems sweeter Posts: 1,863 Group: Members Member #17 Joined: May 4, 2008 Religious Views Atheist Gender Undisclosed Political View Rt Wing. Less Govt is Better!	In an effort to start a decent debate here on semi again, I will just post my personal opinion on why religion is completely up itself. I recently started reading Corinthians (It interested me after my mum said it had some good messages on love etc) and I'd just like to put a few things out there that I found: Corinthians 1, Chapter 6 1-6 If any of you have a dispute with another Christian, how dare you go before heathen judges instead of letting God's people settle the matter? Don't you know that God's people will judge the world? Well, then, if you are to judge the world, aren't you capable of judging small matters? Do you not know that we will judge the angels? How much more, then, the tings of this life! If such matters come up, are you going to take them to be settled by people who have no standing in the church? Shame on you! Surely there is at least one wise person in your fellowship who can settle a dispute between fellow Christians. Instead, one Christian goes to court against another and lets unbelievers judge the case! Corinthians 2, Chapter 6 14-16 Do not try to work together as equals with unbelievers, for it cannot be done. How can right and wrong be partners? How can light and darkness live together? How can Christ and the Devil agree? What does a believer have in common with an unbeliever? How can God's temple come to terms with living idols? Corinthians 2, Chapter 6 17-18 And so the Lord says, "You must leave them and seperate yourselves from them. Have nothing to do with what is unclean, and I will accept you. I will be your father, and you will be my sons and daughters, says the Lord almighty This is what really bugs me about religion: The seperatism and the elitism. I am a unbeliever: according to these passages at least a lowlife who doesn't know ethics when it slaps me in the face, the voice of the devil, unclean, and really not worth bothering with. My opinions are not important, my ideas are not valid, and my very presence is unacceptable. "How can right and wrong be partners?" Now let me make two things very clear: I think that there are some great messages in the bible, and I'm not trying to pick on Christianity (at the present time I don't have acess to other religious manuscripts). What I do think though, is that all religions share this feeling, wether it is denied or not. I'm sure some good people (looking at you sayf) will vehemently deny that their religion is like that, but really, who hasn't thought they are better than anyone else? Who doesn't believe that their world view is right and it's a bit dumb for people to believe otherwise? The difference here is that I accept differences. And though the bible says to love thy neighbor, they're obviously excluding homosexuals, drunkards (not everyone who is one want's to be one you know) and of course, the unbeliever. Love thy neighbor seems very different to "Do not try to work together as equals with unbelievers, for it cannot be done." and "You must leave them and seperate yourselves from them. Have nothing to do with what is unclean, and I will accept you." The very idea of these passages is to encourage separatism. You are Christian, Buddhist, Muslim, Catholic, Hindi etc. The fact that we're all human seems to be lost in the midst of our own separatist ideals. I read a quote somewhere: "We could learn a lot from a packet of crayons. They're all different colours, shapes, sizes and textures, but they've all learned to live together in the same box." We only have one box, people. One earth. And lets face it, we need to share it. We need to accept others for what they are, because you are only one of seven BILLION. And the fact that we allow these kind of ideals to survive in our world is to me, beyond belief. I wait in earnest for the debate to begin. /picks up the bible and carrys on reading



sabre	Nov 7 2009, 10:06 AM Post #2
Super Spok to the rescue! Posts: 1,244 Group: Members Member #218 Joined: Sep 16, 2008 Gender Male Religious Views Atheist Political View freedom and all that shizzle	thanks for posting this, the passages are very interesting



Sayf Udeen Ismaeel	Nov 9 2009, 11:05 AM Post #3
Icon by meagan_chelsea @ LJ Posts: 7,578 Group: Admins Member #1 Joined: May 2, 2008 Gender Male Religious Views Muslim Political View All over the shop.	Hello Bunny. I'm sorry I haven't replied to you sooner than now. And I know I promised a reply. A fair bit is going on, and will get to this!



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