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Official Second Chances Character Permission Archive; Important reading for any future SC planning/discussion
Topic Started: May 14 2018, 09:32 PM (364 Views)
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Hello, handlers! With SC2 winding down, staff have taken a moment to consider and reconfigure our character permission process. Please note that this in no way implies or confirms the planned existence of SC3, either in the short term or at all. It is, instead, a preemptive measure designed to address some concerns and considerations that arose among staff over the course of SC discussions.

When Second Chances was launched in late 2011, it was conceived as a one-off alternate universe game. Handlers were required to secure permission to use characters, and certain characters were excluded (initially winners, Endgamers, and characters from active versions). Over time, some of these rules have changed; surviving characters who were not winners (escapees and such) were initially allowed but barred from SC2, while Endgamers and characters from ongoing versions were added to the pool. Nobody foresaw the growth and popularity of SC2, or the demand for future versions.

In SC2, a number of handlers used lingering permissions from SC1 to vouch for character choices. In the context of SC1, permission to use a character was relatively low-stakes. In light of the continuing universe of Second Chances, however, a character being given has some more implications; they are, to start with, barred from later participation in hypothetical future SC games. Staff has also lacked a comprehensive database of extant permissions. We have decided to change that with this thread.

This thread will serve as a public repository of permissions for all future versions of SC, potential or actual. To be used, a character must be posted with here or must be submitted by their original handler. All entries to this thread should match the following template:

Template
 
Handler:
Character(s):
Permission Type:
Permission Duration:
Proof:


This should be filled as follows:

Explanation
 
Handler: This is the handler whose characters are being transferred/offered. You may post entries here for other handlers, so long as you have the proof to back it up.
Character(s): The characters in question, ideally with links to their wiki pages. If multiple characters are being offered to different handlers or with different permission types, please make a separate entry (following the full template) for each grouping--characters may share a template only if all details match.
Permission Type: Open/Steward (Handler Name)/Limited (Handler Name)

Each of these means something different:
  • Open: Characters tagged as open may be taken by literally anyone. A handler may reserve an Open character with a simple post to this thread. That reservation will hold until a period of thirty days after the opening of the next version of Second Chances, unless explicitly dropped or extended. A dropping may occur at any time, as may an extension. A dropping returns the character to the pool, while an extension resets the timer to thirty days from the date of the extension.
  • Steward (Handler Name): This option entrusts distribution of the character(s) in question to another handler (as noted in parentheses). This handler is treated by staff as having full rights to all noted characters, to use themselves or authorize for other handlers. If they do authorize other handlers to use the character(s), another post to that effect should be made to this thread, again following the template. Stewardship may be transferred via a post to this thread filling the template and including the new steward.
  • Limited (Handler Name): This option grants rights to use the character(s) in question to one specific handler. These rights are not transferable; to give the character to someone else requires explicit permission from the original handler (though the designated handler is under no obligation to actually submit the character(s) in question). Transferable permissions should be entered under the Steward category, as explained above.

Permission Duration: This is how long the permissions detailed last for. The can be entered as "Open-Ended" or "Indefinite" for permissions that do not expire. It can also be entered in a timeline counted either by dates or versions. If a date-based timer expires prior to the start of a new version of Second Chances, all permissions derived from it expire and characters may not be submitted without renewed permission, even if they were previously claimed. If a date-based timer expires after a character has been submitted, the submission remains valid so long as it does not time out.
Proof: A screenshot or chatlog of the securing of permission. This must make clear all details, or else staff will assume a permission type of Limited tied to the handler who secured the permission, and a duration of one version (meaning that, if the character is not submitted in the next version, permission to use that character expires). Note that this means many permissions secured prior to SC2 must be renewed to be valid for any future versions.

Please note that any permissions secured prior to SC2 will be considered expired effective immediately unless they explicitly state that they are ongoing. Any permissions secured after the closing of apps for SC2 will apply only to SC3 unless otherwise noted.

Staff will maintain a directory of Open permission characters in the next post, noting them as they are claimed.

A handler may withdraw previously-granted permissions at any time and for any reason, with some exceptions. In the event of a withdrawal, a character marked Open who has already been claimed will still be submittable by the claiming handler until such time as the original deadline elapses or thirty days from the opening of applications of the next version passes, whichever is sooner. They may not be extended, and if dropped may not be picked back up without new permission being secured. The same restrictions will apply to Limited characters, who will be treated as reserved for a single version to the handler noted. A similar rule applies to Steward characters, though any that have not been handed out may not be handed out and may only be submitted by the steward. In the case of transferred stewardship, any steward may revoke permissions of all levels below them as detailed above.

Furthermore, no handler may have more than two characters on official reserve at any time. Securing permission is not the same as official reserve; official reserve applies only to characters marked Open or characters whose handlers have expressed desire to withdraw them.

If you have any questions, please feel free to ask them here. If you have old permissions you would like to note/import, please feel free to do so. It is our hope that laying out a more detailed and explicit process will better allow handlers to make informed decisions about the use of their characters going forward, and will also enable the creation of an archive of freely-offered characters for any handler to use without having to track down older handlers every time this topic comes up.
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Alright, who the hell plugged in the Overlord?
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Open Permission Character Archive:
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MurderWeasel
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Some examples, to help clarify the process:

Example #1
 
Handler: The Director
Character(s): Yoshimi Yahagi, Toshinori Oda, Megumi Eto
Permission Type: Steward (MurderWeasel)
Permission Duration: Two years
Proof: Logs

Were I to post this, it would mean that I had contacted The Director, and had received permission not only to use the three characters listed, but to give them to otehr handlers as if they were my own. This permission would expire in two years.

Example #2
 
Handler: MurderWeasel
Character(s): Aaron Hughes
Permission Type: Open
Permission Duration: Indefinite
Proof: here

Were I top post this, I would be offering Aaron up for the staff-curated claim list. Any handler could post to stake a claim to him, and that claim would hold until either they relinquished it or thirty days passed from the opening of apps for SC3, at which point he would be returned to the pool.

Example #3
 
Handler: MurderWeasel
Character(s): Everett Taylor
Permission Type: Limited (Kermit)
Permission Duration: One version
Proof: here

Were I to post this, I would be granting Kermit (and only Kermit) the right to play Everett, and only in the next SC to occur. If Kermit decided he didn't want Everett, anyone else would still have to come to me to claim him. If Kermit did not submit Everett for the next version, but wanted him for the one after, he would have to get new permission from me.

Note that if this permission were Steward instead of Limited, Kermit would, upon deciding he did not want Everett, be able to give him to somebody else, trade him, whatever.
Current characters:

The Program: V3 Prologue:
Mina Mashall - Digital Voice Recorder - Making a good impression - "I didn't know you felt so strongly about me."
Erik Bell - Jericho .941 - Having lunch - "May I?"

SECOND CHANCES: V2:
Assorted flora and fauna

SOTF-TV V2:
EW4: Jewel Evans - Chatterbox Communicator Headsets (0/5) - Online - ELIMINATED - "Scars are just reminders to be better next time."

Past characters:

If you want an honest assessment of your character's storyline, feel free to PM me and I'll whip one up as soon as I am able.

Thanks to Bear/Frogue/Kotorikun/Ryuki for the avatar art.
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Handler: 230
Character: Darius Van Dyke
Permission Type: Steward (Toxie)
Permission Duration: Indefinite
Proof: This post

Am I doing this correct?
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Things will obviously change but can we get a list (generalized not comprehensive) of which characters would not be eligible for a future SC version?
PV2.5

PV3

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Handler: FrozenSmoke
Character(s): Any character I've written (Mini/Main), effective as they become eligible
Permission Type: Open
Permission Duration: Indefinite
SOTF-TV 1

PV3 (UK Edition)

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Constructive Critism is always welcome! - I'm returning from a VERY long hiatus
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Handler: MurderWeasel
Character(s): Adam Morgan, Robin Pounds
Permission Type: Open
Permission Duration: Indefinite

Will be adding more as I make sure they're not already promised to people. These two I'm like 95% nobody has wanted yet.
Current characters:

The Program: V3 Prologue:
Mina Mashall - Digital Voice Recorder - Making a good impression - "I didn't know you felt so strongly about me."
Erik Bell - Jericho .941 - Having lunch - "May I?"

SECOND CHANCES: V2:
Assorted flora and fauna

SOTF-TV V2:
EW4: Jewel Evans - Chatterbox Communicator Headsets (0/5) - Online - ELIMINATED - "Scars are just reminders to be better next time."

Past characters:

If you want an honest assessment of your character's storyline, feel free to PM me and I'll whip one up as soon as I am able.

Thanks to Bear/Frogue/Kotorikun/Ryuki for the avatar art.
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Cactus
May 14 2018, 10:53 PM
Things will obviously change but can we get a list (generalized not comprehensive) of which characters would not be eligible for a future SC version?
Right now, the characters who are ineligible are:
  • Any character who won their version, regardless of whether or not they subsequently died or what form their victory took (ten-kill winners from TV and any sort of co-winner are thus out).
  • Any BR AU character.
  • Any character who featured in a past version of SC proper.
  • Any character who escaped their home version or otherwise survived the island.
  • Any character from RPs not officially hosted by Main or Mini (ex: Mercy Street, Arena, REvo)

One prickly area up for discussion is characters submitted for SC Pregame who had posts but did not appear in-game. Another is characters whose existence is alluded to due to connected characters who were in a version. That'll be a discussion for staff to have later, but ideally don't count on such characters being allowed until clarification is issued.
Current characters:

The Program: V3 Prologue:
Mina Mashall - Digital Voice Recorder - Making a good impression - "I didn't know you felt so strongly about me."
Erik Bell - Jericho .941 - Having lunch - "May I?"

SECOND CHANCES: V2:
Assorted flora and fauna

SOTF-TV V2:
EW4: Jewel Evans - Chatterbox Communicator Headsets (0/5) - Online - ELIMINATED - "Scars are just reminders to be better next time."

Past characters:

If you want an honest assessment of your character's storyline, feel free to PM me and I'll whip one up as soon as I am able.

Thanks to Bear/Frogue/Kotorikun/Ryuki for the avatar art.
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Handler: Primrosette
Character(s): Brendan Harte
Permission Type: Open
Permission Duration: Indefinite
SC2

Simon Leroy (Thanks to Kami!) - Deceased

Scarlett McAfee

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Kermit
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Handler: Canadian Cactus Man
Character(s): Burton Harris
Permission Type: Limited, I guess? (Kermit)
Permission Duration: Open Ended sc3!
Proof:screenshot (from this post)

Handler: Kaishi
Character(s): Thom Chuck
Permission Type: I have no clue, Limited, probably (kormit)
Permission Duration: Open Ended? sc3!
Proof: (Backstory: Adam and Vicky tracked down Kaishi a while back, if you need confirmation you can ask either of them) Proof that Thom is actually a creation of Kaishi (she used a different account for him: here. Frog man asking for Thom and/or Waldo here. Frog man's dreams coming true here. I believe Yugi has dibs on Waldo but he hasn't posted them in here yet so idk
Edited by Kermit, May 15 2018, 07:45 PM.


SC2!



PV3!?


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SC3: The Meme Team
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Just going to go ahead and clarify this permission while it's fresh in memory:

Handler : Cicada Nights
Character : Ben Fields (V6)
Permission Type : Open
Permission Duration : Indefinite
Proof : Yugi transferring me steward rights.
Active Games
Future Concepts (Mini)
The Days
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Handler: Adam the Cactus-Man
Character(s): Burton Harris
Permission Type: Limited (Kermit)
Permission Duration: If SC3 comes and goes and Kermit hasn't played Bortn, I'll find him and eat him.

Handler: Cactus
Character(s): Amanda Jones
Permission Type: Limited (Bowser)
Permission Duration: Until SC3 comes and goes.

Handler: Cactus
Character(s): Jamie Li
Permission Type: Limited (Inge)
Permission Duration: Until SC3 comes and goes.

Handler: Cactus
Character(s): Rupert Stockton
Permission Type: Steward (Aura)
Permission Duration: Indefinite. He is yours for as long as you want him. Au revoir, worst character of mine ever.

Handler: Cactus
Character(s): Alicia Murazek
Permission Type: Limited (Somersault)
Permission Duration: Until SC3 comes and goes.

Once Naft ever resurfaces, maybe I'll add him in for Ken but until then, I'll leave him off this.

Also...

Handler: Cactus
Character(s): Gilbert Archambault, Jodene Zalack, Mary McKay, John Sheppard
Permission Type: Open
Permission Duration: Indefinite

People can get at me for other characters, but I'm going to have to have a conversation with staff regarding what to do with the ones I'm okay giving up that are inserts of real people. I'm on a weird iffy ground there and I'll need to talk more at length before I'll feel good letting any of them out that I'm open to giving away (Art, Ryan, Adam A, Andrew L, Andrew P, Sarah, Zilya, Staffan, Wade).
PV2.5

PV3

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Kermit
May 15 2018, 05:54 AM
Handler: Kaishi
Character(s): Thom Chuck
Permission Type: I have no clue, Limited, probably (kormit)
Permission Duration: Open Ended?
Proof: (Backstory: Adam and Vicky tracked down Kaishi a while back, if you need confirmation you can ask either of them) Proof that Thom is actually a creation of Kaishi (she used a different account for him: here. Frog man asking for Thom and/or Waldo here. Frog man's dreams coming true here. I believe Yugi has dibs on Waldo but he hasn't posted them in here yet so idk
As a quick note, since permissions duration is not specified in the logs, this one defaults to applying only to SC3.
Current characters:

The Program: V3 Prologue:
Mina Mashall - Digital Voice Recorder - Making a good impression - "I didn't know you felt so strongly about me."
Erik Bell - Jericho .941 - Having lunch - "May I?"

SECOND CHANCES: V2:
Assorted flora and fauna

SOTF-TV V2:
EW4: Jewel Evans - Chatterbox Communicator Headsets (0/5) - Online - ELIMINATED - "Scars are just reminders to be better next time."

Past characters:

If you want an honest assessment of your character's storyline, feel free to PM me and I'll whip one up as soon as I am able.

Thanks to Bear/Frogue/Kotorikun/Ryuki for the avatar art.
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Handler: Lolo (Lore, Loretta, insert kawai uwu anime girls)
Character(s): Any character I've written (Mini/Main), effective as they become eligible
Permission Type: Open
Permission Duration: Indefinite
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Sinnesloschen
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Handler: Polybius/Polibyss/Sinnesloschen
Character(s): Brendan O'Toole, Garrett Cobbler, and any character I write in the future unless otherwise noted
Permission Type: Open
Permission Duration: Indefinite

Handler: Polybius
Character(s): Michael Robinson
Permission Type: Steward (Yugikun)
Permission Duration: Indefinite

Handler: Cyco/ODB/Fuhfuhfuh
Character(s): Harry Tsai
Permission Type: Limited (Polybius)
Permission Duration: One Version
Proof: Request and reply

Handler: OnceForgotten
Character(s): Cody Jenson
Permission Type: Limited (Polybius)
Permission Duration: One Version
Proof: Logs
PV3 Prologue
PV3
TV2

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