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| Tweet Topic Started: Aug 27 2013, 09:02 PM (744 Views) | |
| Viddy | Aug 27 2013, 09:02 PM Post #1 |
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Random poll. Are you: A gnostic theist - somebody who is certain that there is a god? An agnostic theist - somebody who believes in a god but isn't certain that there is one? An agnostic atheist - somebody who lacks belief in a god but isn't certain that there isn't one? A gnostic atheist - somebody who is certain that a god doesn't exist? Personally, I'm an agnostic atheist and no, Michael, you're not a god so you don't count. Edited by Viddy, Aug 27 2013, 09:13 PM.
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No being is so important that he can usurp the rights of another - Jean-Luc Picard, Star Trek: The Next Generation To surrender to ignorance and call it God has always been premature, and it remains premature today - Isaac Asimov | |
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| XYxy | Aug 27 2013, 10:50 PM Post #2 |
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this sucks, im just a normal guy who believes in science and facts and doenst like to be put in some kind of classes |
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| David | Aug 27 2013, 11:10 PM Post #3 |
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I'm an atheist, but I wouldn't say I'm an agnostic atheist. There's no evidence to suggest there is a god, so there's no reason for me to to be certain or uncertain. Obviously I can't disprove it, but if you make a claim, you should be the one presenting the evidence for it, I shouldn't have to present evidence against it. I'm sure you've heard the Tooth Fairy analogy, Viddy. |
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| Yoda | Aug 28 2013, 12:53 AM Post #4 |
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(oneeye) My bet is that Viddy is a little Tooth-Fairy-believing God-lover. Edited by Yoda, Aug 28 2013, 12:54 AM.
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| Jesus | Aug 28 2013, 01:23 AM Post #5 |
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For each tank built in the world... 131k of Teddy bears are made For each stock market that falls down... there are 10 versions of "What a wonderful world" For each corrupt person... there are 8k donating blood For each barrier that exists... there are 200k mats saying "Welcome" While one scientific is making a new weapon... there are 100 million of mums making a chocolate cake In the world, there's more monopoly money than dollards There are more funny videos in the internet than bad news all over the world LOVE has more results in google than FEAR For each person that says "Everything is wrong..." 100 couples are looking for children And for each weapon sold in the world... 20 million of people share a bottle of Coca-Cola There are still reasons to believe in a better world. | |
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| PyroJockey | Aug 28 2013, 08:15 AM Post #6 |
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I used to be a gnostic atheist, but over the years I have seen things and had things happen that the laws of probability exclude coincidence or that defy scientific explanation, so I guess that makes me a agnostic atheist. I'm less skeptical, more open minded but still lack the faith of a true believer. |
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| Viddy | Aug 28 2013, 09:26 AM Post #7 |
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Yes, I like the tooth fairy analogy, Russell's Teapot, and Hitchens' Razor (contained in my signature). Sometimes a certain version of the Problem of Evil gets me to gnostic atheism, but even then, I have to account for the possibility that god works in mysterious ways even if that's no rational explanation and would fail as a defence in court. |
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| Elder74 | Aug 28 2013, 03:38 PM Post #8 |
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I believe in Odysseus! |
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| Yoda | Aug 28 2013, 06:16 PM Post #9 |
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TPOE is only an issue for a God who claims to be omnibenevolent, omnipotent and omniscient, leaving many "God" possibilities.
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| Viddy | Aug 28 2013, 08:26 PM Post #10 |
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True, but I'm one of those people who would prefer that deism separates itself from theism (I'd rather theism exclusively referred to a personal god). Even then, I suppose you could conceive of an evil god. Edited by Viddy, Aug 28 2013, 08:27 PM.
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| Silphco | Aug 28 2013, 11:00 PM Post #11 |
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agnostic theist for the win |
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| Blackjack | Sep 10 2013, 10:38 AM Post #12 |
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Phantom is my God ** |
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| BIG_BOSS | Sep 12 2013, 06:07 AM Post #13 |
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interesting topic---well, agnostic atheist i don't believe in god in the way that world has described him but i believe there is an advanced beings out there in the universe that's all that i need to say to not discuss others aspects anyways |
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| Michael | Sep 12 2013, 11:50 AM Post #14 |
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yeah those "advanced beings" may be closer than you thought wink wink |
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| Alex | Sep 12 2013, 03:10 PM Post #15 |
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You are too kind. |
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| Drizzt96fin | Sep 12 2013, 03:18 PM Post #16 |
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Gnostic Theist. I dont go in church, pray regulary or spread my religion in any way. I dont very often even think about god, but for me it is a true fact he excists. It has become so obvious for me that he is real, that i don't even think about it anymore. So, i believe 100% he is real, but i dont really worship or pray to him in any way on a daily basis. Somehow i don't require a more detailed explanation for life than "It's all god's work dude!". For me god became a fact, even if I never had a very strong connection with him, yet atleast. I certainly dont follow all the "rules" named in the bible. (This is a quick reply with not too much thought behind it, it is complicated : ). Edited by Drizzt96fin, Sep 12 2013, 03:22 PM.
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| Scott | Sep 12 2013, 03:43 PM Post #17 |
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Agnostic Atheist. In my humble opinion, anyone who thinks that a book written by man is somehow representative of God's will and not influenced in any way by the selfish, controlling (alpha-male) tendencies innate to humanity, is simply not playing with a full deck. Also, how can one justify the selective nature of modern religion? I.e. the strict adherence to certain verses within the Bible or similar and the discarding of other, less socially acceptable, ones. Now, I appreciate that the above is all about religion and not about faith in the belief of a God, but one seldom comes without the other. Re the second option, btw. I'd be interested in hearing the reasoning of those who answered "agnostic theism". How can one believe in a God but not be certain there is one? Surely this uncertainty indicates the absence (or reduction of) of faith. And don't you need faith to believe, in the absence of evidence to support it? Is it selective faith? Is this category simply for religious people who are doubting their religion? Edited by Scott, Sep 12 2013, 03:58 PM.
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| BIG_BOSS | Sep 12 2013, 04:04 PM Post #18 |
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lol -_- Edited by BIG_BOSS, Sep 12 2013, 04:06 PM.
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| Jako | Sep 12 2013, 05:34 PM Post #19 |
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agnostic atheist |
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| Michael | Sep 12 2013, 08:21 PM Post #20 |
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wait how can the majority be agnostic atheist and not gnostic atheist ? guess its more logical to believe in a lie that many people believe in lol ? or is it the "just incase theres a god ill think this so i wont go to hell" thing xD |
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| Viddy | Sep 13 2013, 09:13 PM Post #21 |
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As much as I doubt it, I think that there's a slight chance that a god of any sort may exist, just like there's a chance that there's a flying pink unicorn flapping around the sun. I'm not a gnostic a-flyingpinkunicornist and I'm not a gnostic atheist. It's nothing to do with not wanting to go to hell. In fact, the Pope has indicated that atheists can still go to heaven, differing from his predecessors' views. The funny thing is that they all claim to be infallible, yet contradict each other. Has God suddenly changed his mind about atheists now? |
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| Yoda | Sep 14 2013, 12:06 AM Post #22 |
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Ah, Vid, you've missed a trick. The Pope said that about atheists whilst he was in Argentina. A statement was released from the Vatican which essentially said that the Pope's words were misunderstood, and then gave a completely contradictory interpretation. He's only infallible when on duty! |
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| Viddy | Sep 14 2013, 08:04 PM Post #23 |
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Yes, they said that we couldn't be saved. He's said something along the lines of 'if atheists use their consciences, God will forgive them', in the past few days. The media are reporting two separate statements, it seems, one from May and the other from a few days ago. In any case, I hope he doesn't get assassinated by a more conservative Catholic Edited by Viddy, Sep 14 2013, 08:04 PM.
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| Michael | Sep 14 2013, 10:59 PM Post #24 |
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assasinated? did that ever happen before? |
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| Yoda | Sep 14 2013, 11:31 PM Post #25 |
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Oh yes, lots of times. John Paul II (Pope before the last one) almost died after being shot. |
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