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Founded in 2010 by Phantom, Remains of the Republic has its roots in Star Wars Battlefront II (2005) for the PS2, becoming one of its most successful Europe-based clans.

In 2015-2016, we were active on the new Star Wars Battlefront (2015) game. Though just a group of friends playing for fun occasionally, we still managed to win the EU Cup in a tournament.

Every now and then we fire up our old PS2's to play SWBF2 again, all remaining players from the EU joining forces to play in friendly tournaments along with players from the United States, where there's a larger remaining user base.

These days, RoR mainly functions as a homebase where old and new players meet up to stay in touch and play Battlefront as well as other games.

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State of the Glitching server
Topic Started: May 27 2012, 09:54 AM (751 Views)
PyroJockey
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Greetings,

This past Monday, May 21 2012, I was contacted by Alex in the Glitching Server XAT box. He claimed to represent the entire EU in asking that the Glitching server be removed from the EU region. That no one in the EU community liked the server nor wanted it. He was soon joined by approximately 6 additional EU players and asserted this was the entire EU SWBF2 community. I debated this claim in in lieu of the fact that players still voluntarily join the Glitching server knowing full well it is a modded glitching server. The assertion that 6 people represent the entire EU is unrealistic. I have had EU players comment that they enjoy the server. This also ignores the fact that our Australian players (yes there are some) are also assigned to the European region by Sony.


Dismissing the more absurd claims, these are the more realistic concerns I gathered from the EU players.


  • The Glitching server is only attractive to new, less experienced players, a.k.a. “noobs”.
  • There are insufficient players in the EU community to fill the existing servers.
  • When the first player of the day joins a server, all the other players will join that same server and that will be the only server active for the remainder of the day.
  • The first player of the day will join the glitching server because it’s more appealing to the solo player, thus dedicating the glitching server as the only server to be populated for that day.

While I was not willing to discontinue the Glitching server in the EU based solely on the opinions then given, A compromise was suggested of putting a password on the EU Glitching server. The password would be posted on the various EU websites on in the EU servers forcing “noobs” to join the LF or RoR servers or visit their web sites to learn the password. I am unclear as to the long term advantage of this other than it will redirect “noob” traffic to EU servers and sites. At the time, I said I would consider it.

To make an informed decision I collected 5 days’ worth of data from GameTracker, starting Tuesday morning May 22 through Saturday morning. I also reviewed the usage logs from our EU server.

If you review the statistics for the following 5 days the typical pattern of usage is displayed. Below are composite time lines from GameTracker for the EU Glitching, RoR and LF servers spanning the same period from 15:00 UTC/GMT Tuesday May 22 through 12:00 UTC/GMT Saturday May 26. (Note: The times displayed below are EDT which is UTC/GMT -4 hours).

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On Tuesday, there were between 1-2 players in the Glitching server. The majority of the EU players, up to 12, spent the day in the LF server.

On Wednesday players started joining both the RoR and Glitching servers around 07:00 UTC/GMT. The number of players in the RoR server remained at 1 while the number of players in the Glitching server increased to peak at 6 approximately 09:00 UTC/GMT. Afterwards the number declined as simultaneously the number in the RoR server rose. The number in the RoR server continued to rise until it peaked to 18 approximately 16:00 UTC/GMT.

On Thursday players started joining the Glitching server approximately 10:00 UTC/GMT. The number peaked to 5 approximately 12:00 UTC/GMT. At that time players started to join the LF server. The number in the Glitching server then declined while the number in the LF server continued to increase until it peaked at 14 approximately 15:00 UTC/GMT.

On Friday players started joining the Glitching server approximately 08:00 UTC/GMT. At approximately 10:00 UTC/GMT players also started joining the LF server. The number in the Glitching server dropped and rose until the number peaked at 6 approximately 12:00 UTC/GMT. Meanwhile the number in the LF server peaked at 17 approximately 17:00 UTC/GMT.

On Saturday players started joining the LF server approximately 05:00 UTC/GMT. Players started joining the Glitching server approximately 06:00 UTC/GMT. Both servers peaked at approximately 08:00 with 11 players in the LF server and 3 in the Glitching server.

From this data it is revealed that, despite the opinions presented, the first player of the day joining the Glitching server does not automatically lead to the Glitching server being the dominant server of the day. To the contrary the pattern is that the Glitching server consistently acts as a lobby for players to gather until their number reaches 6, at which point they migrate to the RoR or LF servers, one of which will be the dominant server of that day.

As for placing a password on the server: We have thwarted several hackers over the years and they have threatened vengeance. I have custom versions of the SWBF2 dedicated server and server manager software. These custom versions close several security vulnerabilities that hackers exploit. One of the drawbacks is that the GameSpy master server list will not recognize when our servers have a password, so the player is never given an opportunity to enter the password. This makes the server inaccessible when passworded.
If I were to reverse this modification and add a widely distributed password, it would leave our servers open to hacker attacks. This is an unacceptable risk so we have decided against it. Sorry, no password.

As for the points previously identified:.

  • The Glitching server is only attractive to new, less experienced players, a.k.a. “noobs”. Irrelevant
  • There are insufficient players in the EU community to fill the existing servers. True in both North American and European regions. The community is shrinking when players upgrade to PS3’s and newer FPS like BF BC2. Eliminating the Glitching server will not save SWBF2.
  • When the first player of the day joins a server, all the other players will join that same server and that will be the only server active for the remainder of the day. Only true for the LF and RoR servers.
  • The first player of the day will join the glitching server because it’s more appealing to the solo player, thus dedicating the glitching server as the only server to be populated for that day. True that it is more appealing to the solo player. False in that players will still migrate to other servers.


I think what led to the XAT conversation last Monday was an unusual spike in the number of players (15) in the Glitching server that day as seen in the GameTracker record below.

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As shown by the previously presented data this is not the norm. Sometimes people just want to fool around and have some fun. I see no reason to panic and demand the server be shut down.

I am aware that regardless of what I say and the data I have to support it, there will still be those who will denounce me and the glitching servers based on their biased concept of gameplay. This is unfortunate but I cannot please everybody.

We at the Glitching server are not forcing anyone to join our servers and likewise we are not going to force anyone out of our servers. Players, even noob players, have purchased PS2’s and copies of SWBF2. They have paid the price of admission and we leave it up to them to decide where, when and how to play.

Edited by PyroJockey, May 27 2012, 02:05 PM.

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Michael

Agreed, all the ror players should join it too, they could learn something new xD
I don't play in it because I and others have 200-300 ping
and by the way the first player theory is wrong because we usually ban those "noobs" for breaking the rules and they join other server and that's fine xD
the 6 people eu community was a joke I guess coz nobody asked me what I think about it
the server would be enjoyable for me if there were less mods(eventho some are ok) and it was hosted in europe
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Just take your server down, the 1-2 people who love glitching can make their own server :)

A typical american, forcing his opinions on everyone else regardless of whether it has a negative effect on our community.
You pompously make snide remarks about me and the six people who came to talk to you, saying we dont represent the EU community, SORRY DO YOU? Some arrogant american with too much time and money on his hands?

Where are the 7 people who want the glitch server? I dont see them in this community, I just see one arrogant computer geek who thinks hes some kind of hero because hes learnt how to put up a server.

I'll swing by later for another chat.
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it's not just about glitching, it's about playing just for fun, I can understand why pyro doesn't want to take it down, also you can't force people to join the server they don't want to
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Michael
May 27 2012, 12:13 PM
it's not just about glitching, it's about playing just for fun, I can understand why pyro doesn't want to take it down, also you can't force people to join the server they don't want to
I cant understand why he doesnt want to take it down, hes paying for a service that isnt wanted by the majority, but my main issue with this whole thing is his arrogant manner of presenting himself.

How dare he try speak for the EU community, some jumped up American who thinks hes some wonderous purveyor of choice for the masses.
No hes a glitcher who wants people to follow his lame way of playing.

If he really wanted to help the EU, he'd have asked EU players what they wanted, not just foist his personal taste on us.

Anyway, hes just backtracked completely on what he said he was going to do.
He gave in to our logic in the chat box because there was an overwhelming amount of support for this server to be taken down.
Now hes had time to repair his ego with the help of his cute little glitcher mates, hes had time to get some self confidence back and regain his swagger. And hey look, server is still here.

What I suggest is he takes it down, and then if a large proportion of the EU players want the server back, and come to him asking for it, he puts it back up.

Seems more fair than dumping some laggy piece of crap server in the EU.
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Michael

Just the fact that people play in it is enough to keep it running.
Once again, you can't force someone else to shut his server or other people to join your/other server.Whether you like it or not there are still players who like to play in it from time to time, pyrojockey has no reason to shut it down just because you don't get enough noobs to kill xD just try to deal with it
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I sense an anti-American disturbance in the farce.

You should not have come back Ody-Wan. My master, the Dark Emperor, shall foist his opinions upon you.

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Edited by PyroJockey, May 28 2012, 06:09 PM.

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PyroJockey
May 28 2012, 05:36 PM
I sense an anti-American disturbance in the farce.

You should not have come back Ody-Wan. My master, the Dark Emperor, shall foist his opinions upon you.

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The Glitching server. Yeah, it's something like that.

I sense a middle aged man failing to be funny.
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Nemo
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I thought we agreed on passwording the server? We've had full servers the last 1.5 weeks. Would be nice if it goes on that way.
Edited by Nemo, May 29 2012, 03:56 PM.
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May 29 2012, 01:52 PM
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May 28 2012, 05:36 PM
I sense an anti-American disturbance in the farce.

You should not have come back Ody-Wan. My master, the Dark Emperor, shall foist his opinions upon you.

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The Glitching server. Yeah, it's something like that.

I sense a middle aged man failing to be funny.
the gliching server is a reason to stop swbf2 u noob u need to behave americans like they are animals ,with insults and hits or they do not react.
Edited by Jo., May 29 2012, 03:49 PM.
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Michael

vote for stupidest post ever in the history of internet
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PyroJockey
May 28 2012, 05:36 PM
I sense an anti-American disturbance in the farce.

You should not have come back Ody-Wan. My master, the Dark Emperor, shall foist his opinions upon you.

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The Glitching server. Yeah, it's something like that.

I sense a middle aged man failing to be funny.
the gliching server is a reason to stop swbf2 u noob u need to behave americans like they are animals ,with insults and hits or they do not react.
If the SWBF2 Veteran says so.
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54 year old glitcher.

Someones done well for himself :D
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Michael

and who are you to judge others? he's as cool as a 54 years old can get
this topic should be closed as it's no longer civilised discussion
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Michael
May 29 2012, 07:05 PM
and who are you to judge others? he's as cool as a 54 years old can get
this topic should be closed as it's no longer civilised discussion
If I dont judge nobody will.

Ive seen your topic, you wanted the server taken down, why give in to this arrogant prick now?
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Guys, get some arguments which fit to this topic.
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I can understand Pyrojockey with not wanting to take the server down, but have to say his post sounded quite arrogant. We actually agreed on a password, I'm a bit disappointed you changed your opinion. Of course we can't force you to take the server down, but that wasn't my intention. We just tried to show you that the majority doesn't want your server, no matter why. There are not only 6 people against it, we just had leaders and leading persons of the clans in teh chat + some random people who were in chat.
If you want to keep it, do it, but don't expect EU people to like you or even thank you for it.
About this 6 player thing after your server usually gets empty I can just say that many of us can't play that often so it's damn annoying if the laggy, modded glitching server is full.
If you really think there were many people liking your server start a poll, even if I don't care anymore as I'm damn annoyed of this topic.

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