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Sci-Fi RP Canon: A Redefinition
Topic Started: Jan 13 2008, 09:41 PM (291 Views)
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In the past, the science fiction RP section has been dominated by a metroid-based world. We may have interjected other series into it (ie. SeaQuest, Scurge, Knight Rider, etc), but the overall universe remained the same.

Now that we have a new forum, I believe it's the perfect opportunity for us to become more diverse. Instead of having a single overall 'canon', I think it would be cool if we began dabbling in other, unrelated universes.

This is hardly a new idea, but to preserve continuity in the old sci-fi section we incorporated these other universes into the random RP section. I think science fiction RPs, regardless of the universe, should be incorporated into the science fiction section.

To prevent confusion, when RPers open a recruitment thread for the new story, they should give a rough outline of the universe in which our characters will be living. For example, what kind of travel technology will we be using? Jump drives, warp, wormholes? If the universe is already part of an established series, then a link to a wikipedia article would be sufficient.

If you'd like to create a brand new universe, that would be cool too. Perhaps if enough interest is generated, we could have threads dedicated to specific RP universes and canons, with timelines, general tech descriptions, universe maps, and so forth.

So, what does everybody think? We can still have use our established canon from the old RE so long as we explain in our recruitment thread that we're using that particular universe, but I think this would open up a lot of creative doors for new characters, worlds, and stories.
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This would mean that I could do a Known Space RP, which would be very good. I think I like this idea, and I did post a suggestion of possibly adding another universe in the last forum, so this seems like a good idea.
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I have a small concern if I am reading this correctly, and that's crossing certain technologies across the various universe we hope to establish.

I was thinking we could keep it as the same one universe, but instead, make different systems and galaxies, each of these with their own sets of rules. I think this would be a bit easier, especially for the older RPers who have long established their characters here since the days of MRPF. It would be awkward for one character in one realm suddenly jumping to another, you know?

Sorry if it's a little hard to understand this, but I can't think of another way to word it at the moment... >_<
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I'm slightly confused here.... are we gonna pretty much start over on the continuity for the sci-fi section, and allow people to specify "old, new, or unrelated" for the continuity in which their RP takes place?

I think I have an idea. I'm wondering, since you said something about different universes, if when people make an RP or character, they could give it a number on the continuity, and later on when someone wants to make an RP that takes place after the other but in the same universe, it'd have the same number.


Example:

RP A is in continuity 1
B is in 2
C is in 3

RPs D and up can take place before, after, or during A, B, or C. The creator chooses which RP it shares continuity with, and one could list the RPs in each continuity in chronological order. It could be organized like this:

1: A, K, D, G/J
2: E, B, H, M/N
3: C/F, I, L, O

Now, my dad told me of an episode of Star Trek where Kirk ended up switching places with an alternate version of himself, and got stuck in an alternate dimension. We may later decide to make an RP that involves multiple realities, in which case it'd get listed in every continuity that it's involved in, and would be placed in it's corresponding place in the list for each one.

Example 2:

RP W involves 1 and 2, X involves 2 and 3, Y involves 1 and 3, and Z is in all three. Using the same table as above, it would get updated to look like this.

1: A, K, W, D, G/J, Y, Z
2: W/E, B, X, H, M/N, Z
3: C/F, I, L, O, X/Y, Z

Huh... perhaps we should come up with a method of assigning codes to each new RP, with a table like what I just made, though we could put numbers for the RPs and letters for continuity, in case we get more than 26 RPs. Probably be wise to have a key along with it, too.

Could we pull that off?
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I am absolutely all for this idea yes yes. I'd like to keep the persistent Metroidy universe around, but it would be fantastic to have the opportunity to create as many universes as we want in a mainstream section.

I don't think sectioning off each RP into its own system/galaxy would work very well - I for one like to create universes mostly based around humans, and all of them have different types of technology, culture, et cetera. I can't see consolidating all of that into one universe without a lot of A Wizard Did Its.
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I don't think it would mean meshing the continuities, I think it just means making it so that we don't have to stick with the canon we have right now, although we are still free to use said canon.
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I kinda like this idea, especially the idea of havign RPs that don't mesh with the Metroid RP continuity.

Reason being, I was hoping to do an RP set in the Command and Conquer timeline. Or rather, an alternate version of it where Nod won the the second Tiberium War. I was going to put it up in Random but I didn't think it belonged there.

Though I'm not sure if the mid 21st century counts as sci-fi on this forum...

So, yeah, I'm liking this idea.
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Hmm... Jessie, you have a valid concern, but I think that once things get rolling it won't be much of a problem. In fact, using similar technology between universes would probably ease confusion rather than create it, since we're all familiar with the 'metroid canon standard'.

I just think we're limiting our own creativity by having only one universe. Scout hit the nail right on the head. We won't be meshing continuities, but you can use your character from one continuity in another provided you can think of a good excuse to be there.

For example, say Rejjen wanted to use Twilight in the Command and Conquer canon. He can perhaps be initially be an unknown species drawn to the human galaxy because of the Skrin's (spelling?) unusual mining losses in that sector. He can still be an Ing with no problem, and his character can be identical to the character in the metroid canon, it's just that the Twilight in the C+C canon has no idea what the Twilight in the metroid canon is doing.

However, so long as overall plots don't mesh between canons, I honestly don't see a problem with character introspection that includes the other universe. In the Twilight example, we can think that the C+C canon is actually in a completely different galaxy (similar to Jessie's idea, although I don't think that Jessie's idea should be used as the overall model for this concept). Now, while Twilight is there he can't do anything in the metroid canon anyway, so we can say that he's far into the future or into the past (time travel, wee!). He can still introspect about the friends he made in the metroid universe, perhaps even say that he misses them, but overall interaction would be impossible.

We've already done RPs outside of canon, such as the Infirmary. My redefinition of RP canon is just an extension of that basic idea.

This could be confusing on the author, but I really do think it's feasible. I've done it in the past myself and it's always been a very rewarding experience. Think of it as cross pollination.

Alkarii, you're idea confused the heck outta me. ^_^;; I just want to keep this simple. I honestly think that by adequately describing the setting in the recruitment thread would be completely fine. Once the initial setting is established and the RP is successful, subsequent RPs can be described simply as "we're using the Command and Conquer canon established here: (link)". To ease confusion, we can create a thread for each canon we wish to make in the reference section, and all technology and planets, etc, can go in there. Characters should still be filed with the RPer.

I would really like if some other mods could comment on this. I want to make sure that everybody is at least comfortable with the idea before we implement it. It seems so far that this idea is receiving a lot of support, so come on in and brainstorm, folks!
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