Welcome Guest [Log In] [Register]

If you're a returning member, no, your account has not been deleted, we've actually changed board since you were last here. just go ahead and register, PM one of the staff, let us know you're here, and we'll get right to work converting your information and post count from the old board.

Keep in mind that any RPs running on the old site are probably still there, so if you don't see them here, just check the 'Home' Page, and follow the link back to the old board.

Username:   Password:
Locked Topic
Real-life Rants; Vent here.
Topic Started: Jan 9 2008, 03:44 PM (22,203 Views)
+CEMP+
Member Avatar
Clockwork Master

GODDAMMIT!

WHY DOES ISN'T THE INTERNET MOM-DUMMIE PROOF !!!

RRAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRGGG
"I believe that the human spirit is indomitable. If you endeavor to achieve, it will happen given enough resolve. It may not be immediate, and often your greater dreams is something you will not achieve within your own lifetime. The effort you put forth to anything transcends yourself, for there is no futility even in death."
— Monty Oum
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
~Emperor~
Member Avatar
Fragment
[ *  *  *  *  * ]
So apparently Metroid Other M has now retconned the entire Prime Trilogy out of the series canon.

Seriously. All of it. It's no longer canon according to Nintendo.

Quote:
 
Metroid: Other M, Nintendo handed production to Team Ninja, which rendered the Metroid Prime trilogy non-canon in favour of a more feminine Samus.


From Wikipedia list of retcons.

Was it because Nintendo couldn't close the goddamn plothole at the end of Prime 3? Because getting rid of the whole damn trilogy in THE BIGGEST RETCON OF THE SERIES is not the best way to solve that. Dicks.

This makes me incredibly angry not the least bit of which involves the fact that I personally love Prime's story (and that we're rather heavy on it here.) WHY DO THIS RETCON? IT ACHIEVES NOTHING. Whatever happened to working with existing canon? What the fuck.


Anyway, I'm assuming nothing will change here since we're "loosely" based on Metroid, and like hell I'm going to adhere to a ridiculously stupid retcon.
Edited by Emperor, Sep 1 2010, 12:49 AM.
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
~Jedi~
Member Avatar
One with the Force and Blade
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
...okay, I never really played much of the Metroid series, and I KNOW THIS IS BULLSHIT.


"Fatalis Maximus"
 
Hey, just because you're anthropomorphic doesn't mean you can have three thumbs, you bastard.


Offline Profile Goto Top
 
~Deadly Aim~
Member Avatar
Deadeye '17, eager to move on from the slow-motion train wreck that was last year.
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
Emperor
Aug 31 2010, 11:49 PM
So apparently Metroid Other M has now retconned the entire Prime Trilogy out of the series canon.

Seriously. All of it. It's no longer canon according to Nintendo.

Quote:
 
Metroid: Other M, Nintendo handed production to Team Ninja, which rendered the Metroid Prime trilogy non-canon in favour of a more feminine Samus.


From Wikipedia list of retcons.

Was it because Nintendo couldn't close the goddamn plothole at the end of Prime 3? Because getting rid of the whole damn trilogy in THE BIGGEST RETCON OF THE SERIES is not the best way to solve that. Dicks.

This makes me incredibly angry not the least bit of which involves the fact that I personally love Prime's story (and that we're rather heavy on it here.) WHY DO THIS RETCON? IT ACHIEVES NOTHING. Whatever happened to working with existing canon? What the fuck.


Anyway, I'm assuming nothing will change here since we're "loosely" based on Metroid, and like hell I'm going to adhere to a ridiculously stupid retcon.
... honestly, I think the reason Team Ninja did it is because they don't understand western thought too well, because it was made by an american developer.

That said, I ain't too happy and won't accept this.
Posted Image
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
~Kid Hunter~
Member Avatar
NOT. GIVING. UP. YET.
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
I'm still going to get the game, but that is just bullshit. I can't really believe that unless it came out straight from the horses mouth. I mean, did Sakamoto really give the Prime trilogy a big middle finger and decided to retcon it for Other M? That's just not plausible and it's a stupid move. What, is the Prime trilogy now in an alternate universe? Was the Meta Ridley in BRAWL not the Ridley Samus and Pikachu blew up (I know Brawl isn't really canon, but seriously.) I mean, what the hell Sakamoto? At least Shigeru Miyamoto tells us that the Legend of Zelda ACTUALLY DOES HAVE A TIMELINE (save for the Oracles cause I'm not too sure about them.) But this is seriously a very stupid move if this is true.

I know I'm putting the blame on Sakamoto(the series co-creator, but this is the guy who wanted to make Other M a RAIL SHOOTER of all things), but I should also be blaming Team Ninja for this blasphemy among Metroid fans. Like I said, I am NOT going to believe this unless I hear it straight from Nintendo that the Metroid Prime series is not canon.

BUT WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT? WHAT IS THE POINT? This is like a big (black box) you to Retro Studios, who are now working on the new Donkey Kong. Oh what, by the time the new Donkey Kong game made by Retro are done and they move onto something else, you guys are going to retcon it as well? Well (black box) you Nintendo if that's the case. COME ON, YOU GUYS SHOULD KNOW BETTER! METROID PRIME IS WHAT MADE THE SERIES MONEY!

I'm still buying Other M. I still am. I'm just going to forget that they had the BALLS to retcon Metroid Prime if this is indeed true. When Retro goes back to the Metroid series, I want them to make the next saga to be a BIG BANG. Screw you Sakamoto and Team Ninja, if this is true. ..... I'm going to go e-mail rant Nintendo to get the truth out of this.
The Kid Hunter is now the Warrior of Light.

Colleen Noriko - Cactuar Server - Final Fantasy XIV
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
~Metamyth~
Member Avatar
BURMA
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
:/

Well, shit. Now we'll never figure out who's ship that was at the end of Prime 3...

What really upsets me is that this game was a birthday present for me. And since Other M destroyed the Trilogy's spot in the time-line... Nintendo and TN just messed up the Metroid Time-line for my birthday.

And they didn't even get a god damned gift receipt to take it back! >.>
"Nothing... a shadow is nothing. It is merely a question not yet answered. We only fear the dark if we have no means of lighting our way.

Death comes to all, Morningstar. The world turns, the dawn comes... and under the light of the sun I shall slay giants."


Dresden Codak, Dark Science
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
~The Boss~
Member Avatar
Native Son

Okay, I really think you guys are making too much of this. It's not as if the games disappear. It's not like you can now no longer play the Prime games ever again. They're still there to enjoy. So everybody just take a deep breath now.
Posted Image
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
~Kid Hunter~
Member Avatar
NOT. GIVING. UP. YET.
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
I think everyone (including me) is just upset about that wiki article about Prime being retconned. It's quite possible that it could be wrong and we're simply overreacting over some things in Other M. I mean let us not forget, wikipedia isn't really a reliable source of information. But yeah, overreacting... man we need to chill out unless we get an official word from Nintendo or something.
Edited by Kid Hunter, Sep 1 2010, 05:14 PM.
The Kid Hunter is now the Warrior of Light.

Colleen Noriko - Cactuar Server - Final Fantasy XIV
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
~CrypticOcean~
Member Avatar
Parasite
[ *  *  * ]
The dissapointment definitely stems from the fact that the Prime games were well-made, extremely immersive, and definitely contributed to the story. Their removal from the canon is completely asinine. It is not the fact that people feel like they can never play the games again, but rather, the knowledge that all of this information they are gaining from the game, all of the plot and storyline, the species and encounters, the experiences of Samus herself, are all hollow and meaningless. Not to mention, it is (in my opinon), a huge insult to Retro to have their creations offhandedly dismissed from the timeline.

True, we do not have "official" information, but, there is some evidence that hints towards it being true. For example, in an Other M Trailer, in which Samus recounts her past ventures that lead up to whatever point she has gotten to in Other M, the Prime games are skipped over entirely, not even mentioned. The anger and frustration does not stem from the fact that people feel the games are "dissapearing", but rather, the fact that such a decision could seemingly be made with little to no prior announcement, and that the decision itself seems to be based on (as far as we know) pitiful reasons (A need for a "more feminine Samus", Team Ninja "Not understanding" the games due to it being made by an American developer). Finally, the fact that retconning games that tried very hard in fitting into the Metroid timeline, and did so in a stellar manner, is quite the slap in the face. There just seems to be no good reason to even -slightly- ignore the Prime game series.
That is not dead which can eternal lie, and with strange aeons even death may die.~"Much discussed" couplet from a certain tome.

"Hoohehehahahaha...AHAHAHAHAHAHA!"
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
~Emperor~
Member Avatar
Fragment
[ *  *  *  *  * ]
Alright, I was a bit worked up yesterday... it's just a massive slap in the face for me. I think CrypticOcean's post above best says how I feel now.


Incidentally, I didn't just get the information from the Wikipedia article...it was just the most handy linkable thing. I have a friend who managed to get the game early who first told me about this, but I was hoping he was merely misinterpreting things.

To quote his reasoning from another forum.

Quote:
 
The story completely ignores the events of the Metroid Prime trilogy. This is made clear early on when Samus says she "hasn't taken orders from a commanding officer" since leaving Adam's command. This is only true if you discount Metroid Prime 3: Corruption. There aren't any references to the events of either of the other two, so it's safe to say that the trilogy is now considered completely non-canon.


Now with the game's release and other people apparently coming to the same conclusion (along with the Prime Trilogy being absent in the 'timeline rundown' in the trailer), I think it's more likely than not. However, a lack of word from Nintendo thus far is annoying, and would really solve this instantly.
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
1 user reading this topic (1 Guest and 0 Anonymous)
ZetaBoards - Free Forum Hosting
Free Forums. Reliable service with over 8 years of experience.
Learn More · Sign-up Now
Go to Next Page
« Previous Topic · General Topics · Next Topic »
Locked Topic