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EV/DF-300 Dual Motor Plates (Re-Run?)
Topic Started: Jan 28 2013, 12:08 AM (1,749 Views)
Small Factory
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So, it seems my current "Beast from the East" build, doubled with the lackluster quality of the SR, has gotten a newfound interest in the older EV/DF-300 model over on Scale4x4RC (Well, unlike the SR, the older single motor Blizzard has somewhat of a following and holds a general soft-spot for many folks). Some members over there have been a-buggin' Chris to make another run of the dual motor plates. He figures he would need to have at least 30 orders to make it worthwhile. If you would like one, go on over here and let him know...

http://www.scale4x4rc.org/forums/showthread.php?t=72399

I am not necessarily interested myself, but thought I would give you fellers a heads-up.

I would certainly be interested if he made a new top-plate for the Blizzard as well, as the stock one needs some major cutting to make the dual motors fit, and it's rather ugly with many unnecessary holes. See my build here...

http://s1.zetaboards.com/RCsnowcats/topic/5045007/1/

So, when you chime in, if you think you would be willing to kick in the extra few dollars, ask for a new top plate as well. You can even mention reading my build and all that jazz...
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Tim is the dual motor set up good? Why not just use brushless? I like the looks of the duals but really can't see myself going that route. I liked Chris' Blizzard with the carbon fibre bottom plate and that fancy pinion shield!! I wonder what all that cost??

I will be happy to get my DF-300 parts and convert the one SR soon!! I have two bodies coming, one for spare!! hehehe. I am becoming the Reaper.....spare parts junior!! LOL I am going crazy I think!! My addiction is too strong....Noooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
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Why not dual-brushless?

It is an open thread, so any ideas for any part for the Blizzard he is open to, it seems.

I would love to see him follow thru on the 5-wheel side plate idea he started on a while back, but it's not really feasible due to cost.

Anyways, worth going on over and checking in...
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I went to the thread....but with no experience in the DF-300 yet I don't even know what to suggest! :P

Yeah dual brushless!! hahaha, try that on! The Blizzard might just take off!! :D
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Dual Motors can give you some great torque....Possibly running some 550s.

I would like to see him make a top plate for it also or at least a template to cut out the stock one.
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Jan 29 2013, 10:56 AM
Dual Motors can give you some great torque....Possibly running some 550s.

I would like to see him make a top plate for it also or at least a template to cut out the stock one.
That's my plan (as you know)

http://s1.zetaboards.com/RCsnowcats/topic/5045007/1/

Not everyone wants to go brushless. Also, it was way cheaper for me to go this route, and it's oh so cool...
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Hello All! I'm not dead, got all fixed up & Timmy got my interest back on the DF electric, the dirty !^&@! :) (Zippoman started it just as I was due for surgery so things kinda faded, especially after I got an SR...)

The story is, if I can do a minimum of around 30-40 units on parts, they're feasible. I have the dual-motor plate drawn, and the pinion shroud (Which up til now only 1 existed, mine.) I do plan a new top plate in Aluminum to go with 'em so you don't have to cut your own (Kind of a pain, eh Tim? :D )

I am trying to find a source for rubber to put over some 1.5" wheels, so the dia. will be around 1.625-1.75 overall. 5-wheel side plates are also quite doable, as are Aluminum 8-tooth final drive sprockets w/the mating sleeve. A Styrene hardbody kit is also quite likely if people want something different.

A few other items could happen, it's all up to response! How many would be interested assuming the price is somewhat reasonable? To do such niche parts, I must believe that I won't be losing vmy arse compared to dpoing something with more appeal for a larger market, just a reality of business. I do like to do stuff I'm interested in, and would like to do a few Bliz bits, so don't be shy with letting me know, or any ideas you hace. (I will NOT be doing parts for the SR, though.)

Talk to me Mates! Chris Cazan REC
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Oh, fine, release the dual motor plate.

What's that in the distance? Oh, it's my glory... :D All that begging you for nothing :palm:

It would be great to have a shroud and new top plate, so I would be in for another one.

I did a little looking, but found nothing on the 1.5 rubber with the proper outside diameter. The RC4WD 1.55 Dirt Grabbers are the smallest I could find. Weirdly enough, there is 1.9 rubber that's about correct, but they are basically just strips of rubber for touring cars.

I am most excited about a hex drive so we can run 1.5 wheels, 4 or 5 wheels, and a styrene body. I don't know if you've noticed, but I like the boxy vintage stuff. The new snowcats have very modern swooping lines, which are attractive in their own right.

The bearing supported belt and chain gears would be critical as well.
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.....Takes 6 x 12 bearing..... ;) Chris
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Wow, that is slick... :pbjtime:

Would you be making this as one piece with the smaller chain sprocket, as opposed to the 2 piece design of Kyosho? So 2 bearings for the whole unit to ride on? (I hope I am not too confusing)
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This would be a great idea....
If i have time available at work with the Mazak machine, i will make parts but no time for the moment...
I work 15 hours a day to sort all pieces i need to respond to the demand...
So i need to sleep????sometimes.
I refuse job because i don't have the time.
Someday i will buy my own cnc machine about 100.000$ with all tool need........
I dream to this day........
This day is near, maybee next year................
Edited by mazdaxxx, Jan 31 2013, 09:31 PM.
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I like the direction this is going. I would be in for dual motor setup 5 wheel side plates and track drives. I also like the front mounted steering servo
I have a thought. . . if we are going the route with 5 wheel side plates, could we move the differential back and make new output shafts that would go directly from differential to track drive? This would eliminate the need for the rudder chains and provide more room for fitting 5 wheels within the same chassis.
One other idea would could motors be mounted lower in the chassis so that the body could be mounted "backwards" putting the track drives at the rear of the machine.
I also like the new plow idea that's been floating around.
Edited by REAPER, Jan 31 2013, 10:04 PM.
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Jan 31 2013, 10:04 PM
I have a thought. . . if we are going the route with 5 wheel side plates, could we move the differential back and make new output shafts that would go directly from differential to track drive? This would eliminate the need for the rudder chains and provide more room for fitting 5 wheels within the same chassis.
One other idea would could motors be mounted lower in the chassis so that the body could be mounted "backwards" putting the track drives at the rear of the machine.
That is a great idea, the "direct drive". If the whole drive chain could be done away with, that would be a real benefit. So, instead of mounting the little chain sprocket, there would just have to be a new machined sprocket that could be accepted at either end of that "axle" (preferably pushed all the way at the front, or rear, this time)...

Interesting.
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Well that idea was already shot down along with the lowering the motors to allow the body to be turned around, bummer too the EV/DF seem to move better in reverse through the snow. Maybe a motor mount to place the motor(s) the other direction in the chassis to help equal out the weight in the blizzard front to rear.
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Yeah it is too bad the design of the DF is all front heavy! Battery goes so far forward and across that kind of sucks. Too bad there was no easy way to mount the battery underneath towards the back. I like certain aspects of the DF and the SR. The SR has much better steering once you have a Sabertooth installed. I like the dual motors for that reason alone. The SR can spin a 360 tighter than anything!

I wish Chris would be more excited about the SR...hahaha. Oh well! I am happy to now own both a DF-300 and SR.

I have to play with the DF before I can even say what I want to commit to for Rogue Elements parts. I also have Oilcanman's to tear down and rebuild.


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