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| Tweet Topic Started: Oct 16 2008, 09:28 AM (357 Views) | |
| mattblackgod | Oct 16 2008, 09:28 AM Post #1 |
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Big boss warlord dude!
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Hey - I saw this on TMP. There is now a plastic sprue recycling service - and you can win stuff. Wargames factory recycling srues |
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| v_lazy_dragon | Oct 16 2008, 10:25 AM Post #2 |
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Aye - I was going to post that, but i ran out of time before my first lecture. Certainly looks promising! |
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| Ross | Oct 16 2008, 11:40 AM Post #3 |
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Interesting idea, though I'd be inclined to disagree with the statement "plastic is pretty darn cheap." From what I know, and I may be wrong (wouldn't be the first time), but as oil prices have gone up plastics, like steel, have too. Why? To dig for metal you need big machines, big machines use alot of diesel..... Plastic is a by product of petroleum, thus petroleum being dearer, plastic has risen too. Metal and plastic prices haven't jumped the way petrol has, and for the most part companies have absorbed the bare element rises, but even where I work our cast iron products have just risen substantially as of yesterday. Anyway, apart from that paragraph of drivel... I can see the deal being win win for both Wargames Factory and costumers alike, hat's off to them for it. And probably bigger in my book, a big well done on building models from recycling's, excellent job! |
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| shadowbeast | Oct 16 2008, 12:27 PM Post #4 |
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exactly how would I get my sprues to them, though... |
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| Ramshackle_Curtis | Oct 20 2008, 05:13 PM Post #5 |
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The material costs are negligable even if the prices keep rising. You have to understand that in a hobby like ours, even the "mass produced" models arent being done in vast quantities. Therefore it is the work and distribution that costs more than the materials. I mean, take the Huntsman Spider tank I make. Its £30, plus postage. It takes 2 and a half hours to cast, demould, clean up and package. If as an "artizan" or whatever, I have to expect to be able to charge £10 per hour for my time, so that already £25 just to get the thing made! Then postage on it to America or such is about £15, so the over all cost is £45. Its a huge model, and at retail would be £60 if it was made by another company. This would take into consideration the distibution costs and retail cut. Out of this, the materials themselves cost about £4. On top of this is the power usage, rental of space and over overheads. Not to mention the mould costs, and any spending on making the original. Fortunately, the whole running of Ramshackle is just a front to allow me to make models ALL DAY, and so the actual cost of the pattern making I dont even charge for, but larger companies obviously have to pay the model makers and mould technicians. SO then, in the end as I said, even if the price of the base material doubled, it would not significantly effect the over all price at retail. Oh yes, and to come back on topic briefly, its a good idea from the plastic lads. However, my idea would be to have detailed sprues. Who couldnt find a us for banner poles, drain pipes, poles with skulls on, girders, spare rifles or any other manner of nice detailed bit that would work fine in the role of allowing the plastic to go into the mould. It would encourage "on site" usage of waste plastic, effectively rucucing the amount and also making the product more attractive to horder geek types like ourselves! I use sprue as a modelling material anyway. Several ramshackle pices are made using sprue. I put up some pictures of some new bikers Ive done in the vehicle section a few days ago. The spear shaft is made from a bit of spue I carved up! Edited by Ramshackle_Curtis, Oct 20 2008, 05:21 PM.
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| Ross | Oct 21 2008, 08:12 AM Post #6 |
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Interesting to hear the 'other' side of that Curtis. I guess I was thinking more along the lines of a 5 gallon Dutch Oven which really doesn't compare to a couple of ounce 28mm model. Though I'd be interested in finding out GW's validation for their price rise that they've blamed the metal costs rise on. |
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| v_lazy_dragon | Oct 21 2008, 08:31 AM Post #7 |
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Greed? |
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| Ross | Oct 21 2008, 12:17 PM Post #8 |
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From them? Surely you jest.....
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| v_lazy_dragon | Oct 21 2008, 01:10 PM Post #9 |
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*hangs head* I'm truly sorry... It must be my paranoia which makes me think the evil empir... uh.. what as I saying? Games workshop (tm) aren't greedy - its just that their manufacturing costs are 4 times the price of anyoneelse.. despite being exactly the same... |
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| Ross | Oct 22 2008, 08:24 AM Post #10 |
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A sure sign of quality to be sure..... |
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| Ramshackle_Curtis | Nov 6 2008, 01:04 PM Post #11 |
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GW are losing money and have been for the last 5 years, even with the prices being what they are. Not a good sign for the hobby, as what will happen when they go under? Although, having said that, they dont release anything new, just reworkings of old stuff. THe new chaos army has made soem minor changes that mean my 10 year old chaos army is once again table playayble. So in the end, what do we lose if GW goes under? The sculptors skill? I think not. They bast sculptors will just go work for someone else... |
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| dijit80 | Nov 6 2008, 03:12 PM Post #12 |
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If GW went under we'd all loose one thing - something to object about! GW is also about getting new kids into the hobby which is fine enought too. I'd say GW started loosing money when they tried to make everything so very glossy and cut the content back, but I'm just a cynic who doesn't want to pay the full price for a 300 odd page rule book, where the rules fill barely a third of the pages - I'm a vet of the game, I know the fluff and can see the pretty pictures online, I'd just like the rules please. If GW goes under, then some other company will fight its way to the top of the heap and act in just the same way. When the financial boys start calling the shots, instead of us nerdy lads it always goes wrong - thats why in films you never see an accountant turned hero, but often see a nerd turned hero - films do tell the truth honestly! Though back on topic its nice to see a company making an ethical choice and I'll also back Ramshackle in saying the useful sprues would be nice. Edited by dijit80, Nov 6 2008, 03:13 PM.
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| mattblackgod | Nov 7 2008, 10:02 AM Post #13 |
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Big boss warlord dude!
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I am happy to see a company take a green approach - but like Curtis most of my sprues get reused (or I at least plan too). GW are slowly sinking not just because of the finanical boys. The Corporate who owns them will want a corporate cut (they call it a "Tax") which forces the prices up. When Corporations get involved they stick some guy in at the top who hasnt got a clue about the product or the market place. He is just there to make MEGA bucks. I have to agree about GW's glossy fluff filled nonsense - but lets face it. The hardened gamer or modeller isnt their target market - but kids. Kid with parents with too much money. To then its just a hobby and a game - and we all know that only kids play games. Perhaps if there was a larger portion of the world into our hobby then it would be different. I for one would miss GW. I like some of thier minis and the paint isnt too bad. Besides it gives my wife an back up plan when it comes to birthdays and christmas for me. She pops into the GW store and gets me some bits. Thats good - as I wouldnt buy them myself. Thats why the Hellborn are GW minis (barring one). |
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Perhaps if there was a larger portion of the world into our hobby then it would be different.
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