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The lame Apocalypse; Please don't hate me...
Topic Started: Sep 9 2008, 07:04 AM (375 Views)
RavenFeast	Oct 15 2009, 03:26 AM Post #21
Raider Posts: 482 Group: Members Member #5 Joined: Aug 3, 2008	Off Topic! ----------------------- You would think a small press game company would come up with an advertising campaign along the lines of: Did your lovingly painted army just get nerfed by the home office of that other gaming company? Favorite figures forced to "retire" to make way for new, more expensive miniatures? Tired of the "Pre-turn 1 rules argument" phase? Average age of your local opponent pool too young to shave, let alone drive? Then play our game! You'll be able to field fantasy, science fiction and historical forces... in the same game, if you want! With our fully designed unit creation rules, you can stat up all of your existing figure collection from any manufacturer. Link up with other players in your area using our moderated forum and online opponent finder. Purge yourself of edition-itus, one company miniature servitude, company fanboys and price escalation. Play a game that's actually yours with the figures you already own and that anyone can join! Was that too over the top?
	- Al ___ "A few are born with the talent. The rest of us are just too darn stubborn to put down the brush and walk away." PA figures I've been working on --> http://ravenfeast.deviantart.com/gallery/#Sci-Fi-Post-Apocalyptic http://www.rivetsandsteam.com


Ross	Oct 15 2009, 05:37 AM Post #22
Wasteland Legend Posts: 3,648 Group: Admins Member #2 Joined: Jul 24, 2008	Not over the top at all I reckon, got my attention anyway
	Bunker29 and beyond! Foray's into the dungeons! I'm outta paint and it sucks giant hairy monkey balls!!


mattblackgod	Oct 15 2009, 06:05 AM Post #23
Administrator Posts: 3,708 Group: Admins Member #1 Joined: Jul 22, 2008	I have heard that line from a few companies. Thats why there are load of free non affiliated rule sets online. Skank, Warengine (shockforce was designed to be ultra tinkerable) and many others.
	Mattblackgod - Warlord in Charge and Wargames Anarchist! Bow Down to the Wasteland Warlords!!!! Mattblackgods world - A Post Apoc minis site Mutate & Survive!


v_lazy_dragon	Oct 15 2009, 07:31 AM Post #24
Enforcer Posts: 4,022 Group: Admins Member #3 Joined: Jul 24, 2008	Its effectively the introduction from Skank... except, they use the concluding line "... and Here's your Wallet back!"
	-Xander "I know not what weapons WWIII will be fought with, but WW IV will be fought with sticks and stones" Einstein. Check out my modern wargaming website: Black-Ops-Command


Tinker	Oct 15 2009, 12:23 PM Post #25
Old School Member Posts: 964 Group: Members Member #11 Joined: Aug 4, 2008	It's the fun in gaming that drives me... I'm not a powergamer, I'm a gamer. If I like the sounds of something then I do it. Like painting BVD's on my Warmachine Bile Thralls. I bought it, I built it, and I painted it, so I'm going to play it... This is why I solo I can get really toxic with people messing with my fun! The Wastes makes gaming fun. I know that I don't share much but it's because of my leaky brain pan. Here there are lots of laughs and plenty of top notch painting and builds. I raise a pint in y'alls honor!!
	My hands are blistered from trying to get a grip on reality!


Legend And Fiend	Oct 15 2009, 05:27 PM Post #26
Raider Posts: 448 Group: Members Member #113 Joined: Oct 13, 2009	Yeah...I have to say it: FUCK GW! I COULD TELL YOU MANY HORROR STORIES ABOUT THIS GANG OF COMMIES... But I will spare you my stories of darker days. We have better things to do...anyhow. LAF



Tinker	Oct 15 2009, 05:41 PM Post #27
Old School Member Posts: 964 Group: Members Member #11 Joined: Aug 4, 2008	GW never did anything that we didn't allow them to do to us...
	My hands are blistered from trying to get a grip on reality!


Legend And Fiend	Oct 15 2009, 05:55 PM Post #28
Raider Posts: 448 Group: Members Member #113 Joined: Oct 13, 2009	Tinker Oct 15 2009, 05:41 PM GW never did anything that we didn't allow them to do to us... True Tink, very true... Some of us just took longer to wake up...because we loved the games... You know? LAF



Ross	Oct 15 2009, 08:29 PM Post #29
Wasteland Legend Posts: 3,648 Group: Admins Member #2 Joined: Jul 24, 2008	Actually, before I had access to the net, I only ever knew of GW and Reaper mini's, I had an idea that GZG existed but never knew anything about 'em.
	Bunker29 and beyond! Foray's into the dungeons! I'm outta paint and it sucks giant hairy monkey balls!!


Legend And Fiend	Oct 15 2009, 09:30 PM Post #30
Raider Posts: 448 Group: Members Member #113 Joined: Oct 13, 2009	Ross Oct 15 2009, 08:29 PM Actually, before I had access to the net, I only ever knew of GW and Reaper mini's, I had an idea that GZG existed but never knew anything about 'em. Yup, back in the day...we had book stores that carried D&D, and a hand full of miniatures. Then Comic shops started to carry Ral Partha and GW's products. The world is a bigger place now. LAF



RavenFeast	Oct 16 2009, 02:44 AM Post #31
Raider Posts: 482 Group: Members Member #5 Joined: Aug 3, 2008	Yep, the original hardcovers from 1978 and Grenadier box sets just for D&D. Well, the book stores still carry D&D (4.0), dice and miniatures (plastic & painted, but still miniatures), though the FLGS has way more goodies. And what we can't get through them, there's the inter-web-thingie!
	- Al ___ "A few are born with the talent. The rest of us are just too darn stubborn to put down the brush and walk away." PA figures I've been working on --> http://ravenfeast.deviantart.com/gallery/#Sci-Fi-Post-Apocalyptic http://www.rivetsandsteam.com


Legend And Fiend	Oct 16 2009, 03:09 AM Post #32
Raider Posts: 448 Group: Members Member #113 Joined: Oct 13, 2009	You know...that inter-web-thingie...is kind of neat. LAF



DAWGIE	Oct 16 2009, 02:32 PM Post #33
Merc Posts: 639 Group: Members Member #87 Joined: Jun 17, 2009	I did get kicked off several 40K forums/groups for basically telling the brn ded nur ply u/unbal gm/nurr in rewls crowd to get fucked in a rather straight forward manner. even tore apart a moderator who went by the nickname of redliner on and off list; he was shocked, shocked, i say, to discover that colonials like me would explain in half syllable words exactly what a redliner is . . . between paying a fortune for pretty toys and then not even bothering to paint them up, all the while worshipping at the cold ceramic throne of the GOD OF SWIRLING WATERS tomes of wisdom, i just blew the off years ago. DAWGIE, who did indeed enjoy 40K:RT, and even 40K v/1, SPACE HULK, NECROMUNDA, , MORDHEIM, and early WHFB . . .



Ross	Oct 17 2009, 12:22 AM Post #34
Wasteland Legend Posts: 3,648 Group: Admins Member #2 Joined: Jul 24, 2008	I'm getting back into Necromunda, it was and is the only "competitive" game I've ever really enjoyed. (I don't see PA stuff as competitive, more like a story telling.)
	Bunker29 and beyond! Foray's into the dungeons! I'm outta paint and it sucks giant hairy monkey balls!!


Tinker	Oct 17 2009, 01:06 AM Post #35
Old School Member Posts: 964 Group: Members Member #11 Joined: Aug 4, 2008	Explain your definition of "competitive" Ross please.
	My hands are blistered from trying to get a grip on reality!


Ross	Oct 17 2009, 02:26 AM Post #36
Wasteland Legend Posts: 3,648 Group: Admins Member #2 Joined: Jul 24, 2008	Big table top games like WFB and 40K, Hordes and Warmachine tended (at least in my experience) to become competitive in so much as a cross of power gaming and countering what the other player has. For instance, you have a themed infantry force, the other bloke has an armoured company, so you throw your theme away and stack it to blow tanks up. Or, say you've got a big enough collection to cater for any need. So when your mate says "hey lets have a game" you go to your collection and pick the best to counter what models he has. I know it seems an odd statement to make, and I'm not sure if I've gotten my thoughts across properly without being seen as a dick. But to me competitive gaming is all about "defeating" your foe at any cost, fun comes second. Whereas Necromunda (and to a lesser extent Mordheim (choosing skills at advancement is where it fails IMO), you still want to see your forces kick massive arse but apart from selecting weapons and how many dudes you have, there's lesser room for the "he has 'X'" counter move thanks to the random skills and injuries element. My PA experiences, as they are more based like an old school D&D game, tend to be set up with what feels right for the scenario being played (and what I have in my collection ). I think it all boils down to assigning point values, I just don't see this as being all that productive to fun gaming but more for seeing how much cheese can be fitted into a list, or who knows the most effective combination's and counters to what you know your friend will be putting on the table. I know it's not real clean, but that's my take on competitive gaming....
	Bunker29 and beyond! Foray's into the dungeons! I'm outta paint and it sucks giant hairy monkey balls!!


Tinker	Oct 17 2009, 06:17 AM Post #37
Old School Member Posts: 964 Group: Members Member #11 Joined: Aug 4, 2008	Yeah, I believe I understand what you are saying. Especially after you dismissed the powergaming aspect.
	My hands are blistered from trying to get a grip on reality!


v_lazy_dragon	Oct 17 2009, 08:13 AM Post #38
Enforcer Posts: 4,022 Group: Admins Member #3 Joined: Jul 24, 2008	Yup, I'm with you Ross (both on the argument presentation & on the stance)
	-Xander "I know not what weapons WWIII will be fought with, but WW IV will be fought with sticks and stones" Einstein. Check out my modern wargaming website: Black-Ops-Command


DAWGIE	Oct 21 2009, 03:48 PM Post #39
Merc Posts: 639 Group: Members Member #87 Joined: Jun 17, 2009	SAME here. for me it is fun, first, second, last, always, and balls on the tabletop be damned! DAWGIE



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