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20mm Blood & Fire Update 11-03-17; Start of my 20mm Post Apoc project
Topic Started: Aug 2 2015, 03:25 PM (1,426 Views)
mattblackgod
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With all the recent Mad Max madness/goodness I have been a little obsessed with crazy post apocalyptic vehicles.....well a little more obsessed than I usually am anyway. :lol:

Hotwheels & Matchbox produces lots of cool cars for customization for reasonable prices. This has lead to my interest in 20mm Post Apoc getting rekindled.

Back in the day I was a huge Dark Future fan and I still have my set. It seems a waste to leave the models gathering dust.

About 12 years ago I had long period of sick from work. I discovered and a the Axles and Alloys game and set to converting hotwheels cars. Axles and Alloys got me back into the hobby. After converting several dozen cars (a lot of which I sold a few years ago) I discovered there was few figures to game this which lead to my return to 28mm for figure based games.

Recently I discovered in the lead pile a pack of 20mm near future I picked up from Evilbay a few years ago. So I thought I would paint them and make a start into 20mm Post Apoc.

It is going to be a arid desert world similar to the Mad Max series, the Rage and Darkwind computer games. I have decided to call the setting Blood & Fire.

Most of the world's surface water has boiled off. The seas are pretty much gone and large deserts are in their place known as "The Salt" to the survivors. Some of the world's great fresh water lakes have survived but at a much lower levels. They have given rise to the green zones. Small oases where the only vegetation (and food) grows.

In a place that once was the North American Great Lakes lies a large green zone. It is protected by a great wall and a force of warriors. This place is called "Civilization" and has several towns. The Capitol Town is Sanctuary. President Smeeg rules Civilization.

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Smeeg is accompanied everywhere by his bodyguard Jess, a ruthless trained killer.

Civilization has the Nu Life Corporation which helps Civilization stay ahead of the Crazies in the Wastelands beyond the wall. It produces the Interceptors which the Mags use to patrol the Wastelands beyond the wall.

Dr X is Nu Life's head scientist. He invented the H2O diffuser which pulls moisture out of the atmosphere. The Diffusers are the life blood for many outlying farms and townships. Dr X often heads out beyond the wall in a ambulance and a brace of escorting Interceptors with his assistant Nurse E looking for old world tech and samples of mutation for research.

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Dr X goes out unarmed but Nurse E keeps a pistol handy for dealing with the hostiles beyond the wall.

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The ambulance is a cheap Chinese toy van. It is decorated with junk from the bits box. The ambulance is armed with a flame thrower turret. It is a bead and metal tube.

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There are some dangerous gangs living in Civilization. They live inside Civilization but have bases a few miles beyond the wall. The gangs prey on on convoys inside Civilization and hide the loot beyond the wall. On such gang is the Dead Eye Gang.

The Dead Eye Gang is a trio of bothers.

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L to R - Plug, Theo and Woody.

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Woody drives the pickup whilst Theo mans the machine gun. When the gang makes a hit the pickup gets loaded with loot and they haul it off before the Mags arrive.

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The pickup is a Matchbox car upgraded with junk from the bits box.

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Plug rides in a buggy. It rips up quickly and Plug uses the twin barreled elephant gun to punch big holes into the transport. The buggy then races away before any return fire can damage the buggy.

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The buggy is a Matchbox buggy. Bits of card and junk from the bits box give it the Wasteland look.

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This is going to be an on off project but I have lots of ideas. All I need to do is hunt down figures from various places.
Edited by mattblackgod, Oct 5 2017, 10:02 PM.
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tinker
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Love the 20mm work Boss! Now, play a game!!
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mattblackgod
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Play a game?? Whatsatt then?
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Awesome work dude! great vehicles and love all the cool characters you got going on.
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mattblackgod
Aug 2 2015, 06:24 PM
Play a game?? Whatsatt then?
Its a mystery boss....a mystery!
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Great backstory and figures.
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... I only just realised the scientist was Dr X... with his blue-haired assistant 'E'...
Well played sir... Well played!
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(And for those confused as hell by that last post - I recently got my doctorate, and my wife Emma has blue hair...!)
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mattblackgod
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ha ha....I wondered how long it was going to be. :lol: :lol:

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-whistles innocently-
So is there an ion gun death ray hidden in the back of the ambulance?!?
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mattblackgod
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Well you need to use something to subdue the "samples". :lol:
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Yeah, I missed the joke too Doctor X!

:lol:
Edited by tinker, Oct 16 2015, 05:01 PM.
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So in your opinion, 20mm is suitable for road warrior gaming with moded Hot Wheels and Match Box? One of the problems come with the lack of motorcycles. Since the Hot Wheels versions are almost as big as the cars, the riders are not in the correct scale. But then again, there are tons of great down loadable buildings and miniature sets for 28mm. But I'm not sure about 28mm vehicle options. Any suggestions? Is there a best of both worlds?
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I have kind of gone both ways. 28mm and 20mm scales.

Motorbikes are out there for 20mm. Ramshackle makes some resin ones. Abbarant makes some too. If you look around there are others too. If you have deep pockets you could chase old dark future stuff on evil bay. Some 1/72 kits also have bike out riders too.

Hotwheels bikes are great for 28mm figures.1/50 scale cars are good for 28mm but are limited in numbers. 1/48 also works but is mainly military kits. 1/43 cars can work but some look way too large. They may work for heroic scale figures. Vehicles for 28mm can be got from Ramshackle and other 28mm lines. But you may have trouble finding useable road cars. Regular visits to thrift and cheap toy shops will be in order. Remember to take a 28mm figure with you to get an idea of scale.

My verdict is that for mad max type games it is easier (and cheaper) to find hotwheels cars. 28mm isn't impossible but it takes time and dedication to hunt suitable toys down. It has taken me 12 years to get my 28mm collection together and I got lucky with some 1:50 scale hotwheels finds.
Edited by mattblackgod, Oct 15 2015, 06:11 PM.
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Very cool. But now I've found both 15mm and 20mm minis that offer bikers, gangers, civilians and cops. It's not going to be perfect sculpting at this scale but the 15mm almost has a better selection. They even have good line for a zombie invasion. What do you think?

20mm
http://stanjohansenminiatures.com/Road.htm

15mm
http://rebelminis.com/15mm-gunmen-hostages-punks-e.html

zombie hunters and terrified civilians that can also be used
http://rebelminis.com/15mm-zombies-and-unde.html



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I like Stan Johansens stuff but I have always been put off by the ludicrous p&p to the UK. There are other manufacturers that have reasonable p&p costs in the USA so why not him?

I like Rebels stuff too. I am becoming a 15mm addict. My only issue for Road Warrior games is the lack of cars in this scale.
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Sweet stuff ! I think 20mm and Hot wheels type vehicles with some selective gamer specific type models would be the way to go if you are intrested in vehicle combat . Scale in relation to game board size alone would be a big plus I would think. Hot wheels just have a ton of choices for the $ as well.
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Thanks all. I just ordered some 15mm bikers and 20mm bikers, Road Warriors and some Lawmen. I hope they're suitable to get rolling. It's crazy but I haven't painted a miniature in around 30 years. So I hope this works out. My plan is to start mostly in the Mad Max early days, then work go Fury Road here and there. Wish me luck!
Edited by Rats, Oct 27 2015, 09:26 PM.
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Good luck. :D
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:whip: YOU CAN DO IT!
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