| The BEST Weapons?; Stab...Blast...Slice...BOOM! | |
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| Legend And Fiend | Nov 6 2009, 06:01 PM Post #1 |
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What do you like to see in Miniatures and/or Video Games as Weapon choices for your PC's & NPC's? If you want to break it down by Class of Trades, by all means do so. I am talking about Apoc Goodness here, Near Future, Sci-Fi and Horror Sci-Fi, however these peramitors do not exclude Mystic or Barberouse Weapons by any means.              What do you guys like?   LAF |
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| kfc v lot | Nov 6 2009, 06:09 PM Post #2 |
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AK47 you can throw anything at it and it will cope.. you can bury it mud for a week pull it out and it will still work.. Hell I reckon they will outlast man! Or a druganov sniper due to its sexiness... Revolvers are works of art as well : Colt Python  |
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| Legend And Fiend | Nov 6 2009, 06:17 PM Post #3 |
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YUP...AK47'S ARE VERY COOL. LAF |
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| v_lazy_dragon | Nov 6 2009, 06:18 PM Post #4 |
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Hmmm... AK-47 is always cool, Dittoing with drum mag Tommy guns (and if they have the flat forward grip then even better), PPSh, double shotguns, long barreled pistols (be they revolvers with buntline barrels or hardballer long slide automatics...) |
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| v_lazy_dragon | Nov 6 2009, 06:19 PM Post #5 |
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As for melee weapons... I'm a big fan of bowie/fighting knives, spiked clubs & Halber-esque weapons... |
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-Xander "I know not what weapons WWIII will be fought with, but WW IV will be fought with sticks and stones" Einstein. Check out my modern wargaming website: Black-Ops-Command | |
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| Legend And Fiend | Nov 6 2009, 06:27 PM Post #6 |
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A good heavy club with nails or screws is nice, also a pipe with a coil of barbed wire at one end is just mean. There have been about a zillion movies and games with some white guy useing a damn Katana...which never looks right to me for some reason.  LAF |
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| kfc v lot | Nov 6 2009, 08:08 PM Post #7 |
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Hmm for shotguns Pancor Jackhammer or a SPAS12 Then for melee a axe 
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| mattblackgod | Nov 6 2009, 08:51 PM Post #8 |
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Me I like a mix of weapons..... Bow (been killing long before firearms), Cross bows, Bolt action rifles (Lee Enfeild Rifle probally has the highest kill total of any side arm due to its long life), AK47, PPSh, SLR, double barrelled shotguns (sawn off), the OTs-14 "Groza", Dragunov and so on. Melee Sword or spear. |
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| DAWGIE | Nov 6 2009, 09:29 PM Post #9 |
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MODERN crossbows, crossbow pistols, various bows w/arrows, slings, wrist rockets (hi tech sling), underwater spearguns using powerful rubber bands, boomerangs, bolas, blowpipes, throwing sticks tied to heavy stones, etc. AK-47, M-14A1, the M-14A2, FN FAL will outlast everyone born this very year as active service weapons, somewhere OUT THERE; as long as ammo is available for them, they will be in use. M1 RIFLE, M1/M2 CARINE, M3 SMG, THOMPSON SMG, STEN SMGS, the STERLING SMG, the various SOVIET and CHICOM knock offs of the SOUMI SMG, SOVIET 12.7-mm and 14.5-mm HMG, MA DEUCE, both water cooled and air-cooled versions of the US BROWNING machine guns, the VICKERS MMG, the BAR, the BREN gun, the MG-1 GPMG, the newer versions of the M60 GPMG, and the current BRIT GPMG, RPK LMG, RPD LMG. SPRINGFIELD, ENFIELD MOISIN-NAGANT, and MAUSER bolt action rifles ditto; as long as there are bullets these weapons will continue in use. single shot breech loading rifles made for the old USG .45-70 round, rifles made for the venerable .30-30 using bolt and lever actions, any rifles chambered for the .308 WINCHESTER (also known as 7.62-mm NATO), rifles made for the .30-06 USG round, breech loading combo rifle shotguns (12-gauge 2 3/4 in and 12 gauge 3 in shotgun rounds), various civvie rifles made for the .223/5.56-NATO round, rifles of any type made for the .22 LONG RIFLE and .22-MAGNUM rounds. single barrel/double barrel (over/under or side by side) breech loading shotguns in 10-ga, and 12-ga mostly, or in any modern shotgun round, pump shotguns and revolving shotguns in 10 ga /12-ga. revolvers chambered for .22 LONG RIFLE, .22 MAGNUM, .32-SPEC, .38-SPEC, .44 SPECIAL, .45 LONG COLT, .380 WEBLEY, .455 WEBLEY, .357 MAGNUM, .41 MAGNUM, .44 MAGNUM and possible even the monster bore revolvers in .50 or larger used by hunters/target shooters. i only know of one revolver made to accept 9-mm PARABELLUM, and it is made by a small company, so i doubt that it will be around for long. and two ancients, the COLT and the S&W military revolvers chambered for .45-ACP round. automatic pistols and machine pistols of many makes chambered for .22 LR, .22 MAGNUM .45-ACP ,9-MM PARA, 32-ACP, .380 ACP, .38 COLT SUPER, 7.62-mm TOK, 10-mm S&W, .40 S&W, 9.5-mm SOVIET. maybe a few of the monster autos made in .357 MAG, .44 MAG , and .50 MAG might continue to soldier on but i doubt it. and i expect a surprising number of modern made single shot muzzle and breech loading black powder rifles will be around, too. melee weapons would be sure to include assorted kitchen knives, hunting knives, fighting knives, survival knives, machetes, swords, tomahawks, hand axes, carpenters axes, two handed axes with single and double blades, entrenching tools, shovels, picks, pick-axes, pick-mattocks, long and short wrecking bars, hammers of assorted sizes and weights, baseball bats, cricket bats, hockey sticks, stout lengths of iron, lead or steel pipe, primitive clubs, improvised spears, fire hardened staves, quarterstaves, stone axes/war clubs. autofire, the rock and roll shooting mode would be rarely used to conserve ammo, and then only in the most dire circumstances. all types of MGs would be scarce in the field, being kept to protect precious assets "at home". this would also be true for any crew served support weapon, or anti armor weapon. high tech flame throwers would soon fall out of vogue as fuel for them got scarce, but some clever soul might re- invent the old BYZANTINE syphine pump hand held or mounted flame thrower comcept. rocket launched flamer rounds would be extremely rare. and i do not see some PA dewd or dewdette taking the risk of burning up/warpiing the barrel of his/her only single/double barrel shotgun by using 12-ga "dragon's breath" incendiary rounds unless that was all she/he had left to shoot and the situation looked hopeless. various types of launched grenades/launchers and hand grenades would be precious weapons. civilian fireworks, military/police pyrotechnic signalling devices would be useful as weapons and sources of illumination as long as they last. home made firebombs might see a comeback as ace in the hole weapons. the ever popular animal and mantraps would be back with a vengeance to kill or maim the unwary. some one with the proper knowledge and resources could even make crude anti-personnel mines, anti vehicle mines, and fougasse weaponry (all you need for fougasse is blackpowder, a water tight container, small rocks or other debris and a fuze to be in business with the original fougasse weapons). and i do foresee the re-apperance of the home made mortar tube/base plate, and even the drilled out log cannon if the circumstances are dire enough and some one with the knowledge to make them is around. . . heads up when y'all go OUT THERE: there are a lot of things that can kill you besides local inclement weather conditions, radiation, animals, mutants, raiders, accidents or illness! DAWGIE |
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| mattblackgod | Nov 6 2009, 09:51 PM Post #10 |
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There is a guy on U tube who built a flamer thrower from Turpentine (home brew wood alcohol would do as well) and fittings from his local hardware store. From what I have seen it is one of the easiest weapons to make. I have rules for various rule sets for Toecappers and other hidden traps. I also thought a wired up sawn off shotgun would make a nasty little poor man's claymore mine (I have rules for that too). Edited by mattblackgod, Nov 6 2009, 09:52 PM.
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| Legend And Fiend | Nov 7 2009, 02:25 AM Post #11 |
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GOOD STUFF Gang. Dawgie you are a Guru...lol. LAF |
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| Ross | Nov 7 2009, 12:36 PM Post #12 |
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DAWGIE, I think you've put too much thought into this  AK's, Tommy guns (with the drum mag), revolvers, double barreled sawn off shotties, baseball bats with nails or barbed wire. They're my favs. |
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| Radroamer | Nov 7 2009, 01:45 PM Post #13 |
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I feel that I am coming ina bit late, but AK-47 for survivability, as well as the Lee Enfield .303 for the same and sheer simplicity. STEN guns as they are apparantly really easy to make (see: french ww2 resistance and SOE). Tommies merely for the look of it, and their ubiquitousness. Revolvers. All rugged weapons, or easily produced without widespread industrial support. Its what i'm arming my miniatures with, the parcel from TAG arrived today! But I bow before DAWGIE'S professional experience. |
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| comrade87 | Nov 7 2009, 02:05 PM Post #14 |
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I'll be saying the AK series assault rifles, and support machine guns such as the RPK, along with RPGs will be around for quite a bit. Revolvers in my mind would last alot longer then automatic pistols due to the reliance of automatic pistols on more fragile smaller parts. Bolt Action rifles would have some staying power, and I'm guessing by the time someone organizes a community to set up a weapons factory, these will be the first weapons the reverse engineer for mass production because springs take wayyy to long to reproduce accurately. And you can build muzzle loaders in your back yard For coolness factors, AKs, Tommy guns, and Mauser C96 pistols Edited by comrade87, Nov 7 2009, 02:18 PM.
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| Dentatus | Nov 7 2009, 03:08 PM Post #15 |
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Lessee here... AKs? check Revolvers? check Spiky clubs? check Shotguns? check Bolt Action rifles? check (although lever actions are good too) What about Molotov cocktails? |
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| DAWGIE | Nov 7 2009, 03:27 PM Post #16 |
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SEE fire bomb above on DAWGIE's list for molotov cocktails. |
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| DAWGIE | Nov 7 2009, 06:15 PM Post #17 |
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Y'ALL are right ROSS, i have thought about this a lot, and my own personal PA armory would include: 1. FIREARMS a. any .357 Magnum revolvers made by COLT or S&W; the reason i opt for this caliber over all of the other large caliber magnum rounds is that a revolver chambered for .357 Magnum can and does use .38 Spec ammo with no problem what so ever. soooo, i have a lot more ammo available to me than in any other large bore magnum caliber, including " buckshot and birdshot rounds. this would be my secondary handgun. b. any .45-cal ACP autopistol made by COLT, STARR, LLAMA, ASTRA, NORINCO, or any other good quality knock off of the venerable USG M1911A1, aka, "OLD SLAB SIDES." since this pistol i have actually used in shoot or be shot situations, i am a firm believer in the .45-cal ACP. a nice modernized version of same like the one made for SPEC OPNS troopers would be even nicer to have. this would be my primary handgun with huge stock piles of USG and civvie ammo for same being available, including birdshot rounds. c. any quality, single or double action revolver chambered for .22 Magnum/.22 Long Rifle rounds would be my third choice for a handgun, but especially one that has the cylinder bored to accept both .22 Magnum and .22 Long Rifle rounds. huge supplies of ammo available for this weapon, including "birdshot" rounds. this would be my main meat on the menu pistol, as well as a pistol of last resort. d. a scoped rifle/carbine, bolt action first choice, lever action second choice, made by MARLIN, SAVAGE, REMINGTON, WINCHESTER, or MOSSBERG chambered for .30-06, .308, or .30-30. this would be my primary weapon for "reaching out and touching some one" at a distance. e. a shotgun, single or double barrel, breech loading or bolt action , or a revolving shotgun, or a pump action shotgun with a non choked bore in 12-ga or 10 ga, 2 3/4" or 3" (3" preferred). none of these would have the longer barrel(s) normally associated with hunting or sporting arms, but would fall into the shorter barrel length classified as "riot guns", but not sawn off like a scatter gun. the unchoked bore would allow me to use rifle slugs, flechettes, or shot rounds, all available in huge numbers. this would be the day to day meat on the menu gun as well as heap big ju-ju for those close up and personal moments. makers of choice would be WINCHESTER, REMINGTON, MOSSBERG and that SOUTH AFRICAN company (VEKTOR ARMS?) all of the above are rugged, very low maintenance with maintenance/cleaning tools and ammo available for them all over NORTH AMERICA, CENTRAL AMERICA, and SOUTH AMERICA. 2. BLADES. i am very particular about the type of "belt knife" i carry into the wilderness or combat. a. my first choice would be a pair of full sized GERBER MK IIs, and my second choice would be a pair of the venerable K-BARs used by the USMC and the FFL as fighting/utility knives. again i have experience with both of these and prefer them above all others. b. the GERBER MULTI-TOOL would be my first choice for a folding blade "pocket knife". i actually carried a rugged, reliable, ever useful folding blade knife (with 3 razor honed blades) made by BUCK during both tours in the RVN, my entire ARMY enlistment and sometimes to this very day. but, i mostly have toted the GERBER MULTI-TOOL since it was discovered by me in the 1990s. c. a stout, single piece, stainless steel single bit/flat sided hatchet always went into the woods, camping,etc, with me in civvie life, and i carried one as a dual purpose tool and weapon in the RVN. if i could not have a hatchet like this, i would go with a nice reliable COLLINS made jungle machete for a tool/weapon. d. of course the most simple, durable, useful and deadly tool cum CQC weapon of all, one issued to every GIs was and is the entrenching tool; paddle, short spade, pick/mattock, hand axe, and club extrordinaire, nothing this little jewel could not handle. e. lastly, the most unknown CQC of the average street cop: his seemingly harmless looking black leather gloves with a half pound or more of powered lead across the knuckles and back of the hand. think leather covered brass knuckles. this is of course the DAWGIE DELUX DEAL. DAWGIE |
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| v_lazy_dragon | Nov 7 2009, 07:00 PM Post #18 |
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Very thorough list Dawgie! |
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-Xander "I know not what weapons WWIII will be fought with, but WW IV will be fought with sticks and stones" Einstein. Check out my modern wargaming website: Black-Ops-Command | |
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| Legend And Fiend | Nov 8 2009, 03:04 AM Post #19 |
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ALL of which will be made availiable in spades in Sci-Fi and Retro form in TOMORROW BLACK.  LAF |
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| monkeychild | Nov 8 2009, 07:27 AM Post #20 |
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Ive always been partial to the old SLRs, Ive spoken to guys who have used them and they always recall them in the same hushed reverential tones as when speaking about the AK (praise be its name). Then for pistols the colt 45 because its so old its got to be good. Close up its got to be the trusty sledgehammer, I use one to train with and if it can do what it does to cats and old people, its bound to make a dent in some cannibal mutie scum. ( the old people/sledgehammer bit was a joke, I use a taser on the elderley) |
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