Question about Mutant Ape type?

Question about Mutant Ape type?
Topic Started: Aug 2 2009, 04:39 AM (112 Views)
johnl5555	Aug 2 2009, 04:39 AM Post #1
Ghoul Posts: 28 Group: Members Member #47 Joined: Sep 11, 2008	Hi. I have an army of Eureka Planet of the Apes Gorillas painted up. I wasn't quite sure about how to rate them up. They should be only fair at shooting. Probably pretty nasty in Close Combat. They should be harder to kill. I have infantry and Cavalry along with a slave wagon and artillery battery. Thanks for any ideas. John



Christian	Aug 2 2009, 08:17 AM Post #2
Tribal Savage Posts: 278 Group: Members Member #76 Joined: Mar 19, 2009	Ross has painted a fair few of those, he might be able to provide some insights.



Ross	Aug 2 2009, 08:21 AM Post #3
Wasteland Legend Posts: 3,648 Group: Admins Member #2 Joined: Jul 24, 2008	I painted a heap, but I've never used them in a game yet. John, I'd love to see you cav, slaves and artillery!!
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mattblackgod	Aug 2 2009, 09:55 AM Post #4
Administrator Posts: 3,669 Group: Admins Member #1 Joined: Jul 22, 2008	John - your ideas sound pretty good so far. I would go for Move=5, Aimed = 8+, Melee 4+, Life=8 for a standaed Ape trooper. Make unarmed combat damage increased by 1 or 2, and add +1 or +2 to Melee damage rolls.
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Christian	Aug 2 2009, 11:49 AM Post #5
Tribal Savage Posts: 278 Group: Members Member #76 Joined: Mar 19, 2009	Oh shit, this is actually referring to a specific set of rules



dicehead	Aug 2 2009, 02:37 PM Post #6
Coldheart Posts: 530 Group: Members Member #83 Joined: May 19, 2009	I reckon Mattblack's stats look right, here's an idea for the faction. Tech level: Primitive (or basic depending on your setting, primitive still allows for muskets and you can purchase basic weapons at double price) Characters: Mutie ape, mutie ape cavalry, chieftain, merchant, survivors slaves. Starting sectors: 1 sector rolled using D8 Skills: Battle Upgrades: Mutie ape or mutie cavalry to chieftain or merchant = 10 experience. Special rules: If there are no ape characters left conscious on the board any survivors belonging to the faction automatically flee and do not return to the roster. If they win a battle any unconscious characters are turned into survivors and added to the roster as long as you have a merchant ape. Basic Ape Move=5, Aimed = 8+ Melee 4+, Life=8 Special: Knockdown (25 points) Ape Cavalry Move=8 Aimed = 8+ Melee 4+, Life=8 Special: Knockdown (30 points) Knockdown: When this character makes a successful close combat attack against another character, that character is knocked to the ground. Use merchant archetype for slaver, survivor for slaves and chieftain for the boss monkey. The best first skill for most apes would be brutality to allow them to savage anyone they knock to the ground, see the skills section of the rules for details. Hope that's helpful, let us know how you get on.
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RavenFeast	Aug 2 2009, 03:59 PM Post #7
Raider Posts: 481 Group: Members Member #5 Joined: Aug 3, 2008	Personally, I'd give them to have Basic Tech as: 1) They are a bit more evolved than their original genetic stock. 2) It fits the Eureka figures. Edited by RavenFeast, Aug 2 2009, 03:59 PM.
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dicehead	Aug 2 2009, 04:07 PM Post #8
Coldheart Posts: 530 Group: Members Member #83 Joined: May 19, 2009	Just had a look at the minis, really nice stuff! You're right, go with basic they are much better armed than I thought they'd be.
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johnl5555	Aug 2 2009, 11:43 PM Post #9
Ghoul Posts: 28 Group: Members Member #47 Joined: Sep 11, 2008	Thanks for the responses. Great stuff! Here is a link to some pics of part of my Gorilla Army. http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd308/Johnl5555/Sci-fi/ATC2003023.jpg http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd308/Johnl5555/Sci-fi/IM001944.jpg http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd308/Johnl5555/Sci-fi/IM001938.jpg Thanks again, John



RavenFeast	Aug 3 2009, 04:44 AM Post #10
Raider Posts: 481 Group: Members Member #5 Joined: Aug 3, 2008	johnl5555 - Great looking troops! What game was that? Guessing at all the 10 ape units and 4 ape artillery unit : G.A.S.L.I.G.H.T.? dicehead - MST3K points for Professor Bobo!
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johnl5555	Aug 3 2009, 05:08 AM Post #11
Ghoul Posts: 28 Group: Members Member #47 Joined: Sep 11, 2008	Yep. Battles by Gaslight. It was a Lost World scenario at a local con. Thanks, John



Ross	Aug 3 2009, 07:56 AM Post #12
Wasteland Legend Posts: 3,648 Group: Admins Member #2 Joined: Jul 24, 2008	Shit hot John!! The cav, did you just use a heap of the ape on bike models or did you use another trick?
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Tinker	Aug 3 2009, 12:47 PM Post #13
Old School Member Posts: 959 Group: Members Member #11 Joined: Aug 4, 2008	John the photos look great! I really like that PotAs theme...
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johnl5555	Aug 3 2009, 05:42 PM Post #14
Ghoul Posts: 28 Group: Members Member #47 Joined: Sep 11, 2008	Thanks guys. I appreciate it. Sorry that the pics aren't that great. Eureka made Gorilla Cavalry with variant arms. I have around 40 Cavalry and 50-60 Gorilla infantry, 1 amunition limber, 1 artillery piece, 1 slave wagon, 1 mounted Gorilla General and 1 dismounted. The slave wagon in the picture was scratch built and destroyed by my youngest son. I replaced it with a new one from Old Glory's Old West wagons. I used the movie to create my Ape banners. They are accurate to the movie. I have been buying Copplestone and The now oop HLBS Cavemen figs to also do a game closer to what the movie was (although my humans would be a bit more advanced in having spears and such). I figure that the Gorilla Army would fit in fine with a post apoc background since the last Ape movie pretty much was set in a Post Apoc USA. They faced slightly mutant human forces. I would use Copplestone Scavengers too. *EDIT The Cavalry are also from Eureka. I didn't convert them. Thanks, John Edited by johnl5555**, Aug 5 2009, 03:23 AM.



johnl5555	Aug 5 2009, 03:41 AM Post #15
Ghoul Posts: 28 Group: Members Member #47 Joined: Sep 11, 2008	Here is a preliminary Planet of the Apes sheet. Let me know if it needs adjusted before I slap it into PDF format. Thanks, John Attached to this post: Wastelands_PLANET_OF_THE_APES_GORILLA_ARMY_1.doc (25 KB)



Ross	Aug 5 2009, 08:08 AM Post #16
Wasteland Legend Posts: 3,648 Group: Admins Member #2 Joined: Jul 24, 2008	Sorry to harp on this line of questioning, but how long ago did Eureka do the Ape cavalry? I don't think I've ever seen them before
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dicehead	Aug 5 2009, 12:41 PM Post #17
Coldheart Posts: 530 Group: Members Member #83 Joined: May 19, 2009	Nice one John, looks good to me!
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johnl5555	Aug 5 2009, 03:01 PM Post #18
Ghoul Posts: 28 Group: Members Member #47 Joined: Sep 11, 2008	Ross Aug 5 2009, 08:08 AM Sorry to harp on this line of questioning, but how long ago did Eureka do the Ape cavalry? I don't think I've ever seen them before I'd say early 2000-2004. Thanks, John



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