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| Las Tale | Feb 28 2010, 11:30 AM Post #1 |
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Okay, I've redownloaded Shoddybattle, but I don't have any teams from last year. And it seems that the metagame has changed a ton. So, here's a new team I made for UU. It's based around a lot of offense, but it's not quite hyper offense. It works towards a sweep by DD Feraligatr or Mismagius. Hopefully, someone can help me out with it: __________________________________________________ At a glance: __________________________________________________ Rhyperior @ Leftovers Ability: Solid Rock EVs: 136 HP/244 Atk/128 Spe Adamant nature (+Atk, -SpA) - Earthquake - Stone Edge - Megahorn - Stealth Rock Rhyperior is used as a hard-hitting physical attacker, as well as an lead. I find it able to threaten common leads, especially Ambipom and Mesprit. Even if it is burned, it is able to always OHKO Scarflead Moltres. Rhyperior also has good coverage, and I usually play unpredictably (and this playstyle has worked incredibly well so far, especially against U-Turn users). It's tanking power comes in handy, too. It takes surprisingly little damage from physical attackers, and it can take on Earthquakes to KO its opposition. It faces problems against Roserade, though I haven't faced any as of yet. In addition, 252/252 +Def Uxie takes about 50-60% from a Megahorn, meaning that it might be able to escape a 2HKO (though most people don't feel comfortable with their Uxie losing 50-60% HP in one attack). Since my Venusaur has trouble fighting other Venusaurs/Torterras/Roserades, and all of these also threaten Feraligatr, I'm rather worried. Especially Rock Polish Torterras bother me, as it can sweep my entire team if Cresselia is gone. Venusaur @ Life Orb Ability: Overgrow EVs: 64 HP/164 Atk/184 Spe/96 SAtk Mild nature (+SpA, -Def) - Power Whip - Sludge Bomb - Synthesis - Sleep Powder This is a mixed Venusaur. I use it to take on bulky waters, which are commonly switched into Rhyperior. It can take on pure Grass types, too (but pure grass types appear to be rare in the current UU metagame). It can soak up toxic spikes when necessary, and it can provide useful sleep support. One problem is that it can only tank NVE hits; even neutral physical attacks seem to severely dent it. As such, I'm doubting the usefulness of Synthesis in this set, though it does help recovering lost HP from incoming Surfs and Life Orb recoil. Feraligatr @ Life Orb Ability: Torrent EVs: 28 HP/252 Atk/228 Spe Adamant nature (+Atk, -SpA) - Waterfall - Ice Punch - Earthquake - Dragon Dance Feraligatr is the core of this team - most of my wins come from multiple Dragon Dances from behind Reflect and Light Screen. It doesn't fear paralysis from opposinig tanks; it Dragon Dances as a tank comes in and severely dent it the next turn. It often is the target of Lunar Dance, and helps in scouting out the opposing team. It's second attempt at a sweep is almost always after physical walls are crippled or dead - AKA, the late-game. So far, I haven't had any significant problems when using this pokemon. Cresselia @ Light Clay Ability: Levitate EVs: 252 HP/148 Def/68 Spe/40 SpD Calm nature (+SpD, -Atk) - Reflect - Light Screen - Lunar Dance - Thunder Wave Cresselia paralyzes opposing sweepers, preventing pokemon that are faster than mine from wrecking my entire team. Its function is to set up Reflect/Light Screen to allow Feraligatr or Mismagius to set up. It also attempts to give one of my pokemon a "second chance", meaning that status doesn't bother me nearly as much. Reflect and Light Screen also help it tank, too, as it does not have any healing moves. It functions sometimes as a tank, sometimes as fodder, depending on the situation. It suffers from a lack of attacks, so opposing Mismagius can attempt to set up on it (though Light Screen really cuts down Mismagius' effectiveness). The lack of attacking moves also makes it Taunt-bait. Mismagius @ Leftovers Ability: Levitate EVs: 4 HP/252 Spe/252 SpA Timid nature (+Spe, -Atk) - Nasty Plot - Shadow Ball - Hidden Power (Fighting) - Substitute This is another one of my sweepers. It attempts to set up, and works especially well when provided Reflect and Light Screen support. I'm thinking about using Calm Mind over Nasty Plot. Does anyone have any opinions on this decision? Even with Reflect up, however, I find its Defense to be too low for purposes of setting up. In addition, it theoretically should be able to sweep; however, for some reason, it never has managed to KO more than one pokemon in one go (even with Reflect and Light Screen up). Houndoom @ Life Orb Ability: Flash Fire EVs: 4 HP/252 Spe/252 SpA Timid nature (+Spe, -Atk) - Nasty Plot - Dark Pulse - Fire Blast - Hidden Power (Flying) This is my fire-type attack absorber and second special sweeper. It provides resistances to Ghost attacks, something that both Cresselia and Mismagius are weak to. Its Fire immunity is really helpful to me, as I don't want to wear Feraligatr down too much early on. However, it seems to be a Mismagius with lower speed, lower defenses, and without Substitute. The only good reason I seem to have it is its Fire immunity, and it has never managed a sweep, ending up as a sacrifice in almost every single game. Therefore, I want to change it with something else strong to Fire-type attacks, but at the same time, a good attacker. Are there any suggestions for this? As with Mismagius, Choice Scarf attackers really threaten Houndoom, as do faster threats. It's even worse on Houndoom because of a lack of Substitute, the inability to escape from Dugtrio, and Azumarill's Aqua Jet... and usually, Nasty Plot is a waste of a move because I need to switch out next turn anyway. __________________________________________________ So, there's my team. I've played about 16-20 matches with it (I don't remember the exact number, but I'm sure it's around there), and I've generally done well. Pretty surprising, considering that I haven't played in a long time! Sadly, I owe most of my wins to good predictions and unpredictability, not really to having a solid team. I'd like your opinions on how I should change this team. However, I do want to keep Feraligatr the way it is... otherwise, everything can be changed wherever needed. Thank you for your help! -Levan |
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| AromaFlora | Mar 2 2010, 02:27 AM Post #2 |
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I don't have much time, but I made this team and have been successful so far (means no losses) out of a couple of matches. I've yet to see what problems to come. Only thing I would like to do is switch Houndoom to a more similar role to Venusaur. Being mildly slow, Dugtrio bait, and lacking the Defense stat (without Mismagius's immunities) are too much of a downfall. A mixed set with Sucker Punch, Fire Blast, Dark Pulse, and Hidden Power Grass (Mild nature) would potentially be better. Hariyama is barely a problem to use Hidden Power Flying anyways (and you keep your 31 Speed IV) due to Cresselia, Venusaur, and somewhat Mismagius (when Hariyama is weakened). The other change I made was Lum Berry instead of Leftovers for Rhyperior for sleep and burn leads. Honestly, it seems so much better as you can stay in in cases that you usually don't. Did like 10+ battles and won them all. =P Sorry, I'm such a show-off and this is a great team indeed! Edited by AromaFlora, Mar 2 2010, 04:05 AM.
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| Las Tale | Mar 2 2010, 08:16 AM Post #3 |
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Ah, one major reason I'm running Hidden Power (Flying) is because of Blaziken. Although there's little reason for me to do so, since they almost always carry Vacuum Wave anyway... Thank you for your testing! I find that I have lots of trouble when dealing with Froslass in Hail. Thunderwave messes with almost all my team, and Ice Beam ruins the only member that can't be paralyzed... P.S. The Lum Berry does help a lot. Thank you. -Levan Edited by Las Tale, Mar 2 2010, 08:17 AM.
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On the first time, I did my best to try again against the inevitable tragedy On the second time, I became disgusted towards the inevitable tragedy On the third time, my disgust was overwhelmed by my pain By the seventh time, this all became a farce comedy -Frederica Bernkastel | |
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| AromaFlora | Mar 2 2010, 03:27 PM Post #4 |
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Blaziken isn't that threatening, especially with Calm Cresselia around. Plus, Mismagius outspeeds Blaziken at the end and can hurt Blaziken when it's weakened. When Blaziken switches in on (Mild Houndoom would be doing more damage than Timid) a Fire Blast (or even Overheat if you will), it's going to be taking a lot of damage already (plus hopefully Stealth Rock damage). Likely, it'll be using a Fighting move against Houndoom, in which gives you the chance to use Mismagius, Cresselia, or even Venusaur (this is if you ever start to run Hasty and around max Speed... most Blaziken don't run +Speed so it's safe to do this). Sucker Punch on Houndoom also becomes your only priority move in the team (means it's useful!). Well, yeah, Froslass in hail is basically what makes it a suspect. lol, there's almost nothing really you can do about it. It's going to get Spikes up, Substitute for your misses, and Thunder Wave/Confuse Ray you (I know... I don't think people run this, but this is probably the most annoying hail set!). |
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| AromaFlora | Mar 5 2010, 02:59 AM Post #5 |
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Ah crap. Cresselia just got booted to BL. No more imba bulkiness... so I guess we should be using Uxie now? I do really consider swapping the Houndoom though. Here's Houndoom saving my butt in my sucky play: Rules: Ladder Match, Sleep Clause, Freeze Clause, OHKO Clause, Evasion Clause, Species Clause, Strict Damage Clause The_Reaper sent out Uxie (lvl 100 Uxie). aromafLora sent out Rhyperior (lvl 100 Rhyperior ?). Uxie used Reflect. A barrier was formed! Rhyperior used Megahorn. It's super effective! A critical hit! Uxie lost 53% of its health. --- Uxie used Stealth Rock. Pointed stones float in the air around the foe's team! Rhyperior used Megahorn. Rhyperior's attack missed! --- Uxie used Light Screen. A barrier was formed! Rhyperior used Stealth Rock. Pointed stones float in the air around the foe's team! --- aromafLora switched in Venusaur (lvl 100 Venusaur ?). Pointed stones dug into Venusaur. Venusaur lost 12% of its health. Uxie used Memento. Venusaur's attack was harshly lowered. Venusaur's special attack was harshly lowered. The_Reaper's Uxie fainted. --- The_Reaper switched in Ambipom (lvl 100 Ambipom ?). Pointed stones dug into Ambipom. Ambipom lost 12% of its health. aromafLora switched in Cresselia (lvl 100 Cresselia ?). Pointed stones dug into Cresselia. Cresselia lost 12% of its health. Ambipom used Agility. Ambipom's speed was sharply raised. --- aromafLora switched in Rhyperior (lvl 100 Rhyperior ?). Pointed stones dug into Rhyperior. Rhyperior lost 6% of its health. Ambipom used Nasty Plot. Ambipom's special attack was sharply raised. --- Ambipom used Taunt. Rhyperior fell for the taunt! Rhyperior used Stone Edge. Ambipom lost 31% of its health. --- Ambipom used Baton Pass. The_Reaper switched in Porygonz (lvl 100 Porygonz). Pointed stones dug into Porygonz. Porygonz lost 12% of its health. Rhyperior used Stone Edge. Rhyperior's attack missed! Porygonz's reflect wore off! --- Porygonz used Hidden Power. It's super effective! Rhyperior lost 94% of its health. aromafLora's Rhyperior fainted. --- aromafLora switched in Cresselia (lvl 100 Cresselia ?). Pointed stones dug into Cresselia. Cresselia lost 12% of its health. Porygonz used Substitute. Porygonz lost 25% of its health. Porygonz made a substitute! Cresselia used Light Screen. A barrier was formed! Porygonz's light screen wore off! --- Porygonz used Dark Pulse. It's super effective! Cresselia lost 36% of its health. Cresselia used Reflect. A barrier was formed! --- Porygonz used Tri Attack. Cresselia lost 35% of its health. Cresselia is paralysed! It may be unable to move! Cresselia used Lunar Dance. aromafLora's Cresselia fainted. aromafLora switched in Feraligatr (lvl 100 Feraligatr ?). Pointed stones dug into Feraligatr. Feraligatr lost 12% of its health. Feraligatr restored 12% of its health. --- Porygonz used Tri Attack. Feraligatr lost 77% of its health. Feraligatr used Waterfall. The substitute took damage for Porygonz! Porygonz's substitute faded! --- Porygonz used Hidden Power. Feraligatr lost 23% of its health. aromafLora's Feraligatr fainted. --- aromafLora switched in Houndoom (lvl 100 Houndoom ?). Pointed stones dug into Houndoom. Houndoom lost 25% of its health. Porygonz used Substitute. Porygonz lost 25% of its health. Porygonz made a substitute! Houndoom used Dark Pulse. The substitute took damage for Porygonz! Porygonz's substitute faded! --- Houndoom used Sucker Punch. Porygonz lost 38% of its health. The_Reaper's Porygonz fainted. Houndoom lost 10% of its health. --- The_Reaper switched in Absol (lvl 100 Absol ?). Pointed stones dug into Absol. Absol lost 12% of its health. Houndoom used Fire Blast. Absol lost 87% of its health. The_Reaper's Absol fainted. Houndoom lost 10% of its health. Houndoom's light screen wore off! --- The_Reaper switched in Cresselia (lvl 100 Cresselia ?). Pointed stones dug into Cresselia. Cresselia lost 12% of its health. Houndoom used Dark Pulse. It's super effective! A critical hit! Cresselia lost 88% of its health. The_Reaper's Cresselia fainted. Houndoom lost 10% of its health. Houndoom's reflect wore off! --- The_Reaper switched in Blaziken (lvl 100 Blaziken ?). Pointed stones dug into Blaziken. Blaziken lost 12% of its health. The_Reaper switched in Ambipom (lvl 100 Ambipom ?). Pointed stones dug into Ambipom. Ambipom lost 12% of its health. Houndoom used Fire Blast. Ambipom lost 44% of its health. The_Reaper's Ambipom fainted. Houndoom lost 10% of its health. --- The_Reaper switched in Blaziken (lvl 100 Blaziken ?). Pointed stones dug into Blaziken. Blaziken lost 12% of its health. Houndoom used Fire Blast. It's not very effective... Blaziken lost 65% of its health. Blaziken's Liechi Berry raised its attack! Houndoom lost 10% of its health. Blaziken used Substitute. But it failed! --- aromafLora switched in Mismagius (lvl 100 Mismagius ?). Pointed stones dug into Mismagius. Mismagius lost 12% of its health. Blaziken used Reversal. It doesn't affect Mismagius... Mismagius's leftovers restored its health a little! Mismagius restored 6% of its health. --- aromafLora: gg The_Reaper: gg aromafLora: dunno how i won Mismagius used Shadow Ball. Blaziken lost 11% of its health. The_Reaper's Blaziken fainted. aromafLora wins! The_Reaper has left the room. Edited by AromaFlora, Mar 6 2010, 02:33 AM.
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| chengkor | Apr 28 2010, 01:58 PM Post #6 |
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i think for your mismagius, replaing it with a rotom would do much better. since you can already play houndoom as a special sweeper already. normally i would play the trick rotom with discharge willowisp shadowball and trick holding a scarf. id trick the scarf onto one of their sponges or passers and switch in to begin the sweep. as for houndoom, ive played the standard variant, but realised that it isnt as effective as it seems. most other pokemon outspeed you anyway, so my build would be 252hp 252 spatk and 4 def. item leftovers, with a sp atk boosting nature. moveset: substitute nastyplot flamethrower dark pulse. switch in on smth choiced like moltres and set up substitue immediately. plot once then start attacking. your hp will allow you to take at least one hit. ive taken out 2 or 3 pokemons at a go like this |
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