A cool team
Topic Started: Jan 16 2010, 03:37 PM (320 Views)
Gladial
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Hello.
This team has a problem: she's really unstable.

Starter: Swampert@leftover EV: full HP-Def + 6atk Def*1.1, Speed*0.9
-Earthquake
-St.Rock
-Roar
-Counter

A Standard Starter. Generally, he set st.Rock and start use Roar or switch. Roar prevent the sweeper like scizor/kindra/tyranitar... to kill after a Sword Dance/DD... Earthquake stab benefits of the high atk of Swampert.
In theory I should use Ice Beam instead of Counter to "kill" Grass poke who use to be set on Swampert and the dragons like Salamence. But each time I try to use ice beam on the grass that was a "sucide". -_-
Counter also kill Salamence because people are generally concient that if Roar is use Mence lost 25%+25% because of St.Rock and can kill peopl who try to 2 OHKO him.
I don't use EV on Def Spe because that's the job of TTar to kill SweaperSpe.

Staller : Skarmory@ShedShell EV:fullPv def +6defSpe Def*1.1, AtkSpe*0.9
-Spikes
-Roost
-Brave Bird
-Wirldwind

The only reason he exist is to set 2 or 3 spike. After that he die. These Spikes can give the Win with St.Rock an Lucario! ^_^
He don't really need leftover because he only have to stay 2 turn. Shed Shell because of Magnezone, as usual.

The God: Lucario@LifeOrb EV:fullAtkSpeed +6 Hp Atk*1.1, SpeAtk*0.9
-Sword Dance
-Extremspeed
-Bullet Punch
-Close Combat

My dear, my god: Lucario!! XD.
If Spikes and St.Rock are set he just have to use SD to Sweap everything. Bullet instead of crunch is here because of gengar ( Gengar can OHKO TTar with Focus Blast).
TTar can kill the over ghost.
I can install him with Swampert Roar or Skarm Wirldwind. He can also try to use 2 SD if the opponent try to switch in fortress to break St.Rock-Spikes. Or he can be use in revenge killer during a ramprage of salamence/flygon.
Atk* 1.1 is here to OHKO Salamence 0EV Def, But Its dangerous because of the overs Lucario.

AntiSpecial/AntiGost: TTar@CB EV:Full PV/DefSpe + Def Spe Nature
-Pursuit
-Crunch
-Stone Edge
-Superpow

This thing is here to kill the gost and the sweaper Spe who can kill lucario as Zapdos/Dusknoir... He also cumulate a sandstorm to Spikes/St.Rock .
He's set as a switch for exemple when there is a Latias on the opponent field, take a Draco Meteor/ Surf, and use Poursuit to kill. If that's not a latias but a Big Ghost like Dusknoire/Rottom he use Crunch. Earthquake is limited because of CB so I use Super pow. Stone Edge Stab is here to prevent a gyarados to come with a lot of skill :) .

Standard sweaper: Salamence@lumberry EV:Full Atk/Speed +Speed nature
-Outrage
-Earthquake
-Fire Blast
-Dragon Dance

A standard sweaper and a monster. He's one of the best sweaper in OU. That's the one everyone use +lum berry instead of life orb to prevent spore/hypnosis/thunder_wave, or the confusion after the ramprage :) .
He have a great place in my team: the over people will try to kill him with a ramprage or a scarf DracoMeteor. If they success, Lucario will use Sword Dance, else mence will continue to sweap.

Suicune@Lumberry EV: 252PV/252Def/6AtkS Def*1.1 Atk*0.9
-Calm Mind
-Rest
-Roar
-Surf

This thing is strong and bulky. I use Lum Berry + Rest to accelerate the capacity to sweep.
Roar with StRock/Spikes seems good. + Suicune > fire poke who can kill Skarm/ Metagross without OccaBerry And Lucario.

The last poke isn't set. I'm actually trying Gengar@life_orb because he have two immunity so it's easy to switch, and latias@leftover as a staller calm minder.

As u can see every poke has an important place in the team. Too important. The moves are too forseeable so people with a few of skill can totally destroy it XD. I need more liberty in my moves so if someone could help, that woulb be cool...

PS: Sorry for the bad english, I do as I can with my english lessons XD.
Edited by AromaFlora, Jan 17 2010, 12:47 PM.
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I think Swampert lead are pretty unstable themselves. In the past, they were pretty cool with the TTar and Hippo leads running around, but now, I just have to say Swampert leads suck. Swampert does do good against a couple of leads though.

Top 11 leads (to include Smeargle lol)

Azelf - You can't even hurt it, and it has Taunt to stop your Stealth Rock and sets its own rocks up. You're pretty much going to go to Tyranitar, which is probably going down to under 50% from Azelf's Explosion, which possibly got its Stealth Rock up already.

Metagross - Both lose if Metagross booms first turn (which I do anyways because I run Stealth Rockless Metagross lead courtesy of Blue Harvest). If not, both of you will probably get Stealth Rock off (honestly, I wouldn't switch my Metagross out because I know it can live an Earthquake and boom afterward). After the rocks, decide if you want to get boomed or not. But, it's not such a bad idea to switch to Skarmory, which totally walls Metagross. Swampert does fine here.

Swampert = Mimic leads, rocks up, Roar each other I guess. Fine, lol.

Jirachi - TrickScarf leads get to Trick you on your Stealth Rock if you decide to do that while getting its own rocks out after you switch. But, that fear of getting Tricked will probably make you switch out, yes? Grass Knot versions (I run it, lol) will destroy Swampert. Although it looks like Swampert should win with luck (or prediction, lol), Jirachi wins the majority.

Aerodactyl - Automatic lose to you. You can't even touch it or get your own rocks out due to Taunt. And, you have no moves to attack it.

Infernape - I've been seeing versions with Grass Knot > Fake Out. Those mean you lose. But, you will win if it doesn't have Grass Knot. It's a risk to stay in, so it's like 50/50 chance of win/lose.

Roserade - Obvious loss for Swampert.

Heatran - I've also seen a couple of these run Hidden Power Grass, but that isn't too common. Most run Shuca Berry, so they'll stay in and get their Stealth Rock off. I guess you can say you win here even though Heatran got its rocks off.

Tyranitar - People lead with this? Funny, but you win regardless. Tyranitar will probably get Stealth Rock off. If Tyranitar somehow has Taunt (don't see why not since it's leading), you can't get rocks off.

Gliscor - No Surf on Swampert means you loss. It Taunts your rocks, and gets its own rocks up. You can Counter its U-turn with really good prediction...

Smeargle - Automatic loss. Sleeps you and gets its objective done.

Six total losses, one decent match-up, and four Pokemon you can potentially beat if they lack the moves. Not such a great lead, huh?

Oh, and before I start to properly change and fix your team up, you only have five Pokemon listed. List your last Pokemon and I'll gladly fix you up.
Edited by AromaFlora, Jan 17 2010, 01:11 AM.
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Thanks for these advise.
I'll finally use this Metagross as starter:

Metagross@OccaBerry EV: 252PV/252Def/6Atk Atk*1.1 AtkS*0.9
-BulletPunch
-St.Rock
-Earthquake
-"Boom!"

OccaBery + Bullet punch to kill Infernape. I really have a problem with the starter but this one seems good, even if he'll have a problem with Gliscor/ Roserade/ Smaergle and over fast Starter.

The last poke wil be Suicune:

Suicune@Lumberry EV: 252PV/252Def/6AtkS Def*1.1 Atk*0.9
-Calm Mind
-Rest
-Roar
-Surf

This thing is strong and bulky. I use Lum Berry + Rest to accelerate the capacity to sweep.
Roar with StRock/Spikes seems good. + Suicune > fire poke who can kill Skarm/ Metagross without OccaBerry And Lucario.



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If someone has a suggestion to increase the power of this team, he's welcome :)
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