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Smogon; Like it or loathe it?
Topic Started: May 1 2010, 08:46 PM (2,004 Views)
Sir Zebra
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I've only been tl;dr-ing this whole thread, but after reading something about tiers, I think this is at least somewhat appropriate.

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brian
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Silva Velazquez
May 3 2010, 01:55 AM
Well, Jabba and I just had one session and he did only 2 changes to the team that I made. I didn't want a tutor to actually teach me but I wanted a team building partner. I wanted some more ideas, that is it. This happened in September, 2008. And I can say the same thing about you as well. "You seriously are one of the dumbest people I've met when it comes to Pokemon, for sure. So that's another credential you have." I really can't care less what you think because I know that I'm successful and I've no idea to what extent you've been successful.
me? Climbed the ladder to the top a few times. Built probably the most original, yet still functional, teams of my time. Like I said, in essence, cleared the smogon frontier.

Those are just what people "respect" though. I think me being an analyzer at TPA is a bigger accomplishment, tbh. But you don't.

And shut up about not caring. Nobody's actually capable of not caring unless you're in a fucking mental institute haha. You obviously do care about my opinion, because you wouldn't be arguing with me. You're not superhuman.
 
Sheed
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I'm pretty tired of this argument. I try to be neutral for the most part at PP, partly because I like that whole cheesy 'everybody gets along' shit, but mostly because I've usually been a Moderator, and at rare times an Administrator here. That being the case, I'm going to spell things out for both of you, because clearly someone needed to intervene, and I consider myself a fair medium.

To Silva: We don't know you. We don't know how good you are at battling, we can only estimate based on what you say. And the way you've presented yourself is as a somewhat new player who thinks he can reshape the landscape of the competitive frontier. Nobody is going to respect that. The fact of the matter is that things are done the way they are because over the course of MANY years and TENS OF THOUSANDS of players, the status quo has been proven the most efficient way of garnering organized competition. We can deviate, but we never stray too far from what has been accepted as the method for use.

Brian: We're friends, and I tend to not have a problem with the way you go about doing things. But at this point, you're just flaming the guy. You've gotten your point across, if Silva can't understand that, well, there's not much that can help him. Do I agree with your point of view? To a certain (heavy) extent, yes. But we're beating a dead horse here.

My suggestion moving forward is for you two to help progress the state of PP's competitive section. Play matches, test teams together, do some analysis for us, turn this competitive, ridiculous argument into constructive competition. Give PP something to be proud of, instead of just another flame war.

/$.02
 
brian
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braces for Silvia admitting he's wrong
 
Silva Velazquez

I never admitted that I'm wrong. Only thing is that I don't wish to continue with this argument because the whole community is backing you and in any case, I'd be outnumbered. I cannot change the minds of any of you here and that was not my intention as well. But brian, you were the one who made it into an argument rather than retaining it as a discussion.

@Sheed

Well, just because it is widely accepted doesn't mean that it necessarily needs to be right. One problem that I find is that most of you went only into tiers while I stated it only as one of the reasons as to why I hate Smogon. For the tiers, I started another topic. Here, I just wanted to know whether you like it or hate it and I don't want to know whether someone hates or likes it for the wrong reason or the right reason.

Now, I'd stay out of this topic until someone instigates me again.
 
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Shaun
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Silva it may not be "right" to you, but it obviously works.

And getting on topic, no i don't hate Smogon. They have sections which i think are quite useful.
 
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