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Rate My Team; Team Cosmo
Topic Started: Jun 21 2009, 04:37 PM (627 Views)
Cosmosiege
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Aerodactyl (M) @ Focus Sash
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 6 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
Jolly nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge
- Taunt
- Stealth Rock
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Flygon (M) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 Atk/6 Def/252 Spd
Jolly nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- U-turn
- Stone Edge
- Dragon Claw
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Scizor (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Technician
EVs: 32 HP/252 Atk/226 Spd
Jolly nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Bullet Punch
- Superpower
- Swords Dance
- X-Scissor
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Gyarados (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 156 HP/108 Atk/100 Def/144 Spd
Jolly nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Dragon Dance
- Waterfall
- Stone Edge
- Taunt
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Heatran (M) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 6 HP/252 Spd/252 SAtk
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Dark Pulse
- Dragon Pulse
- Earth Power
- Fire Blast
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Gengar (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 6 HP/252 Spd/252 SAtk
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Focus Blast
- Thunderbolt
- Energy Ball
- Shadow Ball
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Hi Cosmosiege. Welcome to Pokemon Portal. All changes are in red and big.

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Cosmosiege
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Alright

EDIT: Btw, I realized I forgot to put up the uses, so here they are

EDIT: Many say it's outdated, but Aero's my lead. I don't use Stealth Rock often, but it's other attacks work just as good. Taunt is for Bronzongs and anything else that sets up at the start, EQ's for Infernape and Stone Edge is for Gyrados and Salamence

EDIT: Next is Flygon. I put him there to absorb Electric attacks like T-wave. He's got a Choice Sacrf to outspeed DDers and such. His attacks are standard except for Dragon Claw, whihc is there instead of Outrage so if a Steel comes out, I can switch out.

EDIT: After Flygon is Scizor. He's there as a plain Physical Sweeper. The rest should be self-explanatory, SD Scizor.

Fourth is Gyrados, bulky Gyrados to be specific. DD is there since Gyrados does it so well. Waterfall and Stone Edge are the attacks and Taunt is there just in case Aerodactyl goes down.

EDIT: Fifth is Heatran, Choice Scarfed. He's there to absorb Fire attacks and take down all kinds of things. Dark Pulse is there instead of Explosion for Latias and Starmie, plus I can get some flinch hax

Finally is Gengar, also a Special Sweeper like Heatran. You may notice that my team has no Grass attacks. That's why Gengar has Energy Ball for Swamperts, and the element of surprise.

Also notice I have 3 Physical Pokemon and 3 Special Pokemon.

Please dont double post (and triple, quadruple, etc) in the future
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Welcome to PP, thanks for joining. Please try to avoid the double+ post in the future via the use of the edit button.

Your entire team has +Speed natures, and while its a solid cast, its going to have trouble against a bulkier, more well-rounded team. You may want to look into different versions of the same team members, as it works well with its types/resistances.
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Well, Sheed, I believe most bulkier teams have a lot of support attacks, which is why I have 2 Taunters. Plus, what do bulky teams usually do anyway?
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I don't necessarily mean combo teams or setup teams, I mean teams with bulkier, more defensive Pokes that can outswitch yours. I like a lot of the changes TheOedipusRex made, in turning Speed natures to attacking ones where necessary, however, I liked the lefties on Gyarados and I prefer HP Ice on Gengar to deal with Dragons, although Metagross coverage is nice.
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Don't touch Aerodactyl. Works fine for me.

Although on an edited team, I replaced one of the moves with Ice Fang.
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Considering that Aerodactyl is a lead, why would you switch either of the attacking moves with Ice Fang? It is not STAB like Stone Edge and Earthquake has much better type coverage against other leaders.
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I posted a RTM, and someone suggested it, and I thought I'd give it a go. The team you saw, I have a fair few variations of it. Mostly trying out different Charizards, or Sword Dance on Weavile.
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I general you would want Ice Fang on Aerodactyl if he is not a suicide lead and your team is Dragon/Ground weak. Beyond that Earthquake is a better choice.
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To TheOedipusRex

I see the point of most of your choices. I forgot about Electivire's Motor Drive and I like the Celebi. And I also see your point on Ice Fang.

But, one other thing you might notice is my team is fully immune to Toxic Spikes and mostly immune to plain Spikes. Switching Azelf and Aero sounds fine to me in that regard and the same goes for Celebi, but if Azelf is going to have Explosion, I'll need another Taunter on my team for things like Breloom and Walrein in the Hail.

If you're arond today, I'll also be on Shoddy.
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I probably won't have time to play today. I also won't have computer access for the next week. We can battle after that though.
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Oh, I see. That's too bad. Ah well, I can wait. Besides, I'm getting out of school on the 26th.

What's another good Taunter that I can replace something with?

Why am I asking? Like I said before, if Azelf will be carrying Explosion, I'll need another Taunter.

Btw, Scizor had a Jolly nature to outrun non-choice Scarfed Magnezone, since he's an excellent counter to Scizor. Also, should I teach Scizor Thunderpunch?
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Ouch you aren't out of school yet? That's a pain.

I really do not think you need another Taunter. I will take a look but I really don't think you need it. I'll give you can example.

You have a Pokemon out and Gyarados switches into it

Your Pokemon is water weak so you switch out to another Pokemon, with Taunt, so you stop it from setting up.

On Your switch Gyarados uses Dragon Dance.

The next turn he used Dragon Dance and afterward you use Taunt.

Now that Gyarados has two DDs under it's belt it probably can sweep the rest your team. GG.



The better option, because you team is offensive, would be to switch into a counter and destroy the Gyarados while he is still setting up.
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Well, I would have really no reason to Taunt a Gyrados. Besides, I'd send something out like Aerodactyl or Flygon to take it out.

And yeah, I'm not out of school yet. But it doesn't matter, since I'm not doing anything other than listening to my iPod.
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If you really want a Taunter, I would use Gengar. Pretty sure he can learn it and he is pretty fast.
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Gengar can learn Taunt, but I'd have to get rid of something to put it there.

Also, Gengar is very fragile, so if I Taunt and the opponent attacks, Gengar is most likely dead.

And school isn't a big of a deal anymore, especially since I graduated this year.
Edited by Cosmosiege, Jun 23 2009, 02:49 PM.
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Any time you are going to try and Taunt something that is setting up mid game you are going to get destroyed. The only other options I see are Weavile and Aerodactyl. Better yet don't have a suicide lead and have Azelf as a special sweeper with Taunt. Use Heatran as your lead instead
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A Heatran with Steath Rock or Choice Scarf? By which I mean A Heatran with Stealth Rock or the same Heatran I have/you suggested.

Plus where would I get Pokemon like these for real battles anyway? I have no Action Replay, sadly.
Edited by Cosmosiege, Jun 23 2009, 03:38 PM.
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