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Team Vex; The Most Annoying Team on PP
Topic Started: Jun 20 2009, 03:06 PM (131 Views)
TheOedipusRex	Jun 20 2009, 03:06 PM Post #1
1st Grand Champion of The Gym Leader Castle Posts: 414 Group: PokeMods Member #212 Joined: Jun 19, 2009	Team Vex To vex means to annoy or disturb, and that is the battle plan of this team. It is based around moves that vex your opponent into submission, most notably the paralysis, flinch, serene grace combo that spreads havoc among the opposing team. Please rate and fix. All changes are big and the color gold. Team Overview Spoiler: click to toggle In Depth Analysis Metagross @ Occa Berry Ability: Clear Body Nature: Adamant (+ Attack, - Special Attack) IVs: All 31 EVs: 252 HP / 236 Attack / 12 Defense / 8 Speed ~ Stealth Rock ~ Earthquake ~ Bullet Punch ~ Explosion Metagross is without a doubt one of the best leads in the OU metagame. It is assured to set up Stealth Rock against a non-taunt using opponent and will also take a big chunk out of the opposing Pokemon's HP. Occa Berry helps it survive super effective attacks (i.e. lead Heatran's Fire Blast). It's EVs are set up to make it bulkier ans to help it hit harder with its STAB priority attack Bullet Punch with its powerful Earthquake and Explosion for type coverage. Here is a quick threat list for leads: Blue: Minimal Threat Orange: Minor Threat Red: Major Threat Spoiler: click to toggle Aerodactyl: I can try to set up Stealth Rock if I like and see if he taunts or I can Bullet Punch for either a 1HKO or 2HKO and set up Stealth Rocks on the next enemy. I don't remember exactly how many Bullet Punches are needed but Aerodactyl is pretty rare to begin with. Azelf: This is a basic suicide lead and Metagross is built to handle it. Very similarly to Aerodactyl I can either try Stealth Rocks and see if there is a Taunt or I can just Bullet Punch. No big deal regardless. Breloom: This is an interesting lead and I have not seen very many of them. I would expect a first turn Spore and switch into Suicune who has Sleep Talk. I could then stay in with Suicune or switch out again into another counter and let Suicune sleep which protects me from another Spore due to Sleep Clause. It is somewhat annoying but nothing dangerous especially considering it's rarity. Heatran: Probably the most threatening lead I will come up against. I would most likely set up Stealth Rocks and hope for the best in terms of the battle between the two and then switch into a revenge killer if Heatran's attacks all hit. Occa Berry gives me some breathing room against its fire and ground attacks. My other option would be to switch into Togekiss if I expect a ground type attack or my own Heatran if I expect a Fire Blast. Overall it is threatening but not game breaking. Infernape: Earthquake gives me a good 1HKO and Occa Berry protects me from being 1HKOed when there isn't a super effective critical involved. I would then set up Stealth Rocks next turn or attack depending on the situation with his 2nd pokemon. Jirachi: I have several options with this. Earthquake takes it down quite easily. If I predict a trick I can switch into Heatran. I could also set up Stealth Rocks and switch out. It just isn't threatening to me. Metagross: We would both be doing the same thing. Set up Stealth Rock and hope we win the speed tie. I would also switch into Heatran if I expect a Steel attack but if it was Earthquake I would be out of luck. Earthquake wouldn't affect Togekiss but Meteor Mash would. This one is sort of up to luck. Ninjask: I would Stealth Rock on the first turn as the Protect. Then I could use Bullet Punch as they try to sub. Veery good match up for me. Yanmega: Just about the same thing as Ninjask. They are both trying to pass speed but my Bullet Punch has priority so I can still set up Stealth Rocks and get the KO. Jirachi @ Leftovers Ability: Serene Grace Nature: Impish (+ Defense, - Special Attack) EVs: 240 HP / 160 Defense / 76 Special Defense / 32 Speed ~ Body Slam ~ Iron Head ~ U-Turn ~ Wish Jirachi is the first paraflincher. With Serene Grace the secondary effects of its attacks are doubled. so it is the crux of this set. Body Slam gives Jirachi a 60% chance to paralyze the opponent. Iron Head has a 60% chance to make the opponent flinch. Since paralysis drops the affected Pokemon's speed Jirachi will be able to attack first to pull off a flinch. Refresh and Wish are there to keep up Jirachi's HP and status. Impish nature, Leftovers, and its EVs are to make it bulkier to survive until the set up is done. I switched Refresh into U-Turn because I really did not have a lot of use for Refresh in my matches and U-Turn lets me pass wish and scout. Togekiss @ Leftovers Ability: Serene Grace Nature: Calm (+ Special Defense, - Attack) EVs: 252 HP / 4 Special Attack / 252 Special Defense ~ Thunder Wave ~ Air Slash ~ Nasty Plot ~ Roost Togekiss is set up similar to Jirachi. While Jirachi was a physical wall, Togekiss is a special wall. They both however have serene grace to enhance the chance of filching which is accomplished through Iron Head and Air Slash . They also both have recovery moves in the form of Wish and Roost. Togekiss does have a set up move, Nasty Plot, instead of Refresh for extra attacking power. These two Pokemon are two sides of the same coin and are the basis of my mid game strategy to spreed paralysis Celebi @ Leftovers Ability: Natural Cure Nature: Bold (+ Defense, - Attack) EVs: 252 HP / 4 Special Attack / 252 Defense ~ Thunder Wave ~ Leech Seed ~ Grass Knot ~ Recover Celebi transitions the team from paraflinching to a cele-tran-water combo. Celebi also spreeds paralysis and is aided by Leech Seed recovery and Recover. It's attacking move is a STAB Grass Knot. Leftovers, it's EVs, and nature are all to help it be bulkier so it can continue to spreed paralysis and such. I have done some great stall work with this in battles. It's ability to restore HP and sap opponents HP while having a good attacking move had turned what was a 5 vs 1 battle where I was going to lose into a win for me. I wish I had recorded it to show. Heatran @ Choice Scarf Ability: Flash Fire Nature: Naive (+ Speed, - Special Defense) EVs: 4 HP / 252 Special Attack / 252 Speed ~ Fire Blast ~ Earth Power ~ Explosion ~ Hidden Power [Electric] Switching gears is Heatran, the ultimate revenge killer is OU. He is the second part of the Cele-Tran-Water combo. His moves give him great type coverage so he can come in and finish off a few weakened foes. He can also absorb fire attacks which is this teams biggest weakness. Suicune @ Leftovers Ability: Pressure Nature: Bold (+ Defense, - Attack) EVs: 252 HP / 252 Defense / 4 Speed ~ Surf ~ Calm Mind ~ Sleep Talk ~ Rest Suicune finishes off this team. Its water typing helps bring a new type to the team and also helps against fire type attacks. When the opponents team is all paralyzed I can bring this in to Calm Mind up and Surf. Rest lets me heal when needed and Sleep Talk lets me attack when I am asleep. This can also serve as a sleep absorber against a spore for hypnosis. Threat List Blue: Minimal Threat Orange: Minor Threat Red: Major Threat Spoiler: click to toggle Azelf: Not that difficult to take down and I haven't seen it very much except as a lead. I would suppose Togekiss is my best bet with paraflinch. Suicune could also be good if it lacks Grass Knot. Blissey: I've got a lot of options. Metagross has great attacking prowess if he is still in play. Jirachi can come in and set up easily if there is no flamethrower. Heatran is probably the best option has he is immune to toxic and flamethrower and has Eartquake. Breloom: Suicune can absorb the Spore and Heatran can use Fire Blast. Bronzong: Heatran has Fire Blast if it is Levitate (which it probably is). If it is Heatproof then Heatran has Earthpower. Metagross also has Earthquake and Celebi could come in and set up on it. Celebi: Heatran with a Fire Blast is a great option against this, as is Togekiss with Air Slash. Cresselia: Never come up against this using this team but Celebi could set up against this nicely as could Suicune. I've got a lot of options against it. Donphan: Never come up against this either but I don't see it as threatening. Suicune could set up, as could Togekiss. Dragonite: Paraflinch is always an option. I haven't really come up against this. Thunderbolt and Fire Blast could lead to some issues though. Dugtrio: Technically there is not a counter for this because of Arena Trap, but Suicune and Togekiss would work well against it. Dusknoir: Not really familiar with this but Suicune could absorb sleep and set up or Celebi and Togekiss could paralyze it ans go from there. Electivire: I've got to make sure not to use Thunder Wave against it but many of my Pokemon will do well against it. Metagross has Earthquake, as does Heatran. Gallade: Haven't really faced this. I would probably use Heatran of Togekiss. Gengar: Also haven't really faced this. I remember when I did Heatran took care of it. Suicune can absorb a hypnosis. Looking at it's move set it has Thunderbolt, Focus Blast, Shadow Ball, and Hidden Power [Fire]. It also has Levitate which makes my ground attacks miss. Because of this move set it seems very threatening to me. Gliscor: Suicune takes this on quite nicely. Haven't really run into it though. Gyarados: Heatran has Hidden Power [Electric] for a revenge kill and Celebi has Grass Knot. Jirachi could also Paraflinch it to death and Suicune could possibly set up. It does have Dragon Dance though so if it sets up I'll have a problem on my hands. Heatran: Heatran is a problem if not taken care of because it exploits a fire weakness of my team. Suicune would be the bst option. Heracross: Heatran or Togekiss are my best bets. Hippowdon: Suicune can switch in and set up. None of my Steel types take damage from the sandstorm. Infernape: Suicune would be the best option but it can take down a lot of my team if I am not careful. Jirachi: My Metagross can take this on pretty well as can my own Jirachi with paraflinch. Heatran might be my best option with Fire Blast or Earth Power. Jolteon: Earthquake and Grass Knot do well against it. Just have to make sure I do not try and Thunder Wave it. Kingdra: Grass Knot and Hidden Power [Electric] do good damage. Lucario: Earthquake and Fire Blast are very useful against it. Heatran takes it down nicely. Machamp: Magnezone: Mamoswine: Metagross: Porygon-Z: Salamence: Scizor: shitrmory: Heatran's Fire Blast takes it down well. I can't really set up on it with whirlwind up thunder wave would help a lot. Jirachi would be good against it as well. Snorlax Starmie: Suicune: Swampert: Tentacruel: Togekiss: Tyranitar: Vaporeon: Weavile: Yanmega: Zapdos: More of the Threat List is coming soon. Stay tuned folks Edited by TheOedipusRex, Jun 21 2009, 04:37 PM.



Bonkenhi	Jun 20 2009, 04:35 PM Post #2
Spamm1n M3mb3r Posts: 2,072 Group: Members Member #9 Joined: Jan 18, 2008	Hope you feel better soon. Your team is very good from this noob's point of view. =P ...and it would be highly vexing to me. Why can't anyone make a "Team Pushover" other than me.
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purapura	Jun 20 2009, 04:40 PM Post #3
purapura Posts: 317 Group: Members Member #208 Joined: Jun 16, 2009	TheOedipusRex Jun 20 2009, 03:06 PM Team Vex To vex means to annoy or disturb, and that is the battle plan of this team. It is based around moves that vex your opponent into submission. Team Overview In Depth Analysis Metagross @ Occa Berry Ability: Clear Body Nature: Adamant (+ Attack, - Special Attack) IVs: All 31 EVs: 252 HP / 236 Attack / 12 Defense / 8 Speed ~ Stealth Rock ~ Earthquake ~ Bullet Punch ~ Explosion Metagross is without a doubt one of the best leads in the OU metagame. It is assured to set up Stealth Rock against a non-taunt using opponent and will also take a big chunk out of the opposing Pokemon's HP. Occa Berry helps it survive super effective attacks (i.e. lead Heatran's Fire Blast). It's EVs are set up to make it bulkier ans to help it hit harder with its STAB priority attack Bullet Punch with its powerful Earthquake and Explosion for type coverage. Jirachi @ Leftovers Ability: Serene Grace Nature: Impish (+ Defense, - Special Attack) EVs: 252 HP / 4 Attack / 252 Defense ~ Body Slam ~ Iron Head ~ Refresh ~ Wish Jirachi is the first paraflincher. With Serene Grace the secondary effects of its attacks are doubled. so it is the crux of this set. Body Slam gives Jirachi a 60% chance to paralyze the opponent. Iron Head has a 60% chance to make the opponent flinch. Since paralysis drops the affected Pokemon's speed Jirachi will be able to attack first to pull off a flinch. Refresh and Wish are there to keep up Jirachi's HP and status. Impish nature, Leftovers, and its EVs are to make it bulkier to survive until the set up is done. Togekiss @ Leftovers Ability: Serene Grace Nature: Calm (+ Special Defense, - Attack) EVs: 252 HP / 4 Special Attack / 252 Special Defense ~ Thunder Wave ~ Air Slash ~ Nasty Plot ~ Roost Togekiss is set up similar to Jirachi. While Jirachi was a physical wall, Togekiss is a special wall. They both however have serene grace to enhance the chance of filching which is accomplished through Iron Head and Air Slash . They also both have recovery moves in the form of Wish and Roost. Togekiss does have a set up move, Nasty Plot, instead of Refresh for extra attacking power. These two Pokemon are two sides of the same coin and are the basis of my mid game strategy to spreed paralysis Celebi @ Leftovers Ability: Natural Cure Nature: Bold (+ Defense, - Attack) EVs: 252 HP / 4 Special Attack / 252 Defense ~ Thunder Wave ~ Leech Seed ~ Grass Knot ~ Recover Celebi transitions the team from paraflinching to a cele-tran-water combo. Celebi also spreeds paralysis and is aided by Leech Seed recovery and Recover. It's attacking move is a STAB Grass Knot. Leftovers, it's EVs, and nature are all to help it be bulkier so it can continue to spreed paralysis and such. Heatran @ Choice Scarf Ability: Flash Fire Nature: Naive (+ Speed, - Special Defense) EVs: 4 HP / 252 Special Attack / 252 Speed ~ Fire Blast ~ Earth Power ~ Explosion ~ Hidden Power [Electric] Switching gears is Heatran, the ultimate revenge killer is OU. He is the second part of the Cele-Tran-Water combo. His moves give him great type coverage so he can come in and finish off a few weakened foes. He can also absorb fire attacks which is this teams biggest weakness. Suicune @ Leftovers Ability: Pressure Nature: Bold (+ Defense, - Attack) EVs: 252 HP / 252 Defense / 4 Speed ~ Surf ~ Calm Mind ~ Sleep Talk ~ Rest Suicune finishes off this team. Its water typing helps bring a new type to the team and also helps against fire type attacks. When the opponents team is all paralyzed I can bring this in to Calm Mind up and Surf. Rest lets me heal when needed and Sleep Talk lets me attack when I am asleep. This can also serve as a sleep absorber against a spore for hypnosis. I'm not feeling very well at the moment so I'll leave off here for now. A threat list and some other things are coming soon. In the mean time feel free to rate rate, fix, etc. Thanks a lot! WANTS to make a stall team without it looking like a stall team but it is one and so yeah.



Xepher	Jun 20 2009, 04:43 PM Post #4
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TheOedipusRex	Jun 20 2009, 11:10 PM Post #5
1st Grand Champion of The Gym Leader Castle Posts: 414 Group: PokeMods Member #212 Joined: Jun 19, 2009	To Bonkenhi: Thanks it is running pretty smoothly. Like me PM said I'll be happy to help you fix up your "pushover" team. Make a Rate My Team thread and we can fix it up there. To Purapura: Yeah this is my first attempt at doing some stall. Couldn't totally tell what you were tying to say, but I'll take it as a complement. To Xepher: Why would you suggest a Cresselia and who would I replace with it? Also more changes have been made to the original post. I did a lead threat list and am currently doing an overall threat list. Let me know if there is anything I forgot or could fix. I am also trying to get one of the team builder charts located here: http://pokemon.marriland.com/diamond_pearl/team_builder/ into my post but I can't figure out how. I also could use some battles to further test this team out if anyone is interested. My Shoddy name is TheOedipusRex and I play on the Smogon server. Thanks a lot for your help guys. Edited by TheOedipusRex, Jun 20 2009, 11:11 PM.
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Sheed	Jun 20 2009, 11:36 PM Post #6
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TheOedipusRex	Jun 20 2009, 11:55 PM Post #7
1st Grand Champion of The Gym Leader Castle Posts: 414 Group: PokeMods Member #212 Joined: Jun 19, 2009	To Shed: Thank you for the chart! It is updated in the original post. I am now trying to limit space in the original post by using spoiler tags for huge objects.
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purapura	Jun 21 2009, 12:56 AM Post #8
purapura Posts: 317 Group: Members Member #208 Joined: Jun 16, 2009	By the way, your big problem is that stalling REQUIRES you to have spikes/tspikes if you want true success. SR only affects flying/ice/bug and if you're lucky, you'll get some more damage with dual typing, but you really need to cover the entire spectrum. Thunder Wave is good, I guess, but the whole point of this is not to make your opponent give up, it's to bring down the team without actually having to attack it. So stuff like sandstorm, things that burn, things that poison-- that's what you need. I haven't actually taken a good look at the actual team, but with a quick look I knew you were going to have trouble stalling



TheOedipusRex	Jun 21 2009, 01:28 AM Post #9
1st Grand Champion of The Gym Leader Castle Posts: 414 Group: PokeMods Member #212 Joined: Jun 19, 2009	To Purapura: I see what you are saying about needing spikes and toxic spikes. I originally tied using a Foretress for it but it did not work out well. I had too much of a fire weakness and Foretress did not have the time to set up. The more I began to play with it an tweak the team it really became more offensive than stall. As you know, Metagross, Jirachi, Togekiss, and Heatran are not used to stall. Metagross is my suicide lead, Heatran does some great revenge killing, and Jirachi and Togekiss are paraflinchers. The last two stall elements on my team and Celebi and Suicune who are both also used aggressively to take down water and fire threats to the team.
	A signature tells others who someone is. Here are a few details about myself. I am... Spoiler: click to toggle ~ I am a PokeMod ~ The Organizer and Head of The Gym Leader Castle ~ The Champion of The Gym Leader Castle ~ The 8th Gym Leader of The Gym Leader Castle ~ I am the author of Team Vex, the most annoying team on Poke Portal ~ The author of TheOedipusRex's Guide on how to make a RMT And I have at least 100 Posts! All of this is very soon after TheOedipusRex Joined the Brawl!!! I also love to battle Pokemon. While I do not often use WiFi, my Shoddy Battle name on Smogon University's server is TheOedipusRex. Furthermore, I do a lot of a lot of rates and fixes of other people's Pokemon team. If you need help with your team, or need help in any other way, let me know and I see what I can do


purapura	Jun 21 2009, 01:41 AM Post #10
purapura Posts: 317 Group: Members Member #208 Joined: Jun 16, 2009	TheOedipusRex Jun 21 2009, 01:28 AM To Purapura: I see what you are saying about needing spikes and toxic spikes. I originally tied using a Foretress for it but it did not work out well. I had too much of a fire weakness and Foretress did not have the time to set up. The more I began to play with it an tweak the team it really became more offensive than stall. As you know, Metagross, Jirachi, Togekiss, and Heatran are not used to stall. Metagross is my suicide lead, Heatran does some great revenge killing, and Jirachi and Togekiss are paraflinchers. The last two stall elements on my team and Celebi and Suicune who are both also used aggressively to take down water and fire threats to the team. All three of those can be used in stall. o.o Anyway, here's a battle story of mine from a while back when platinum came and I wanted to make a stall team (totally forgot about that until I was looking at this xD). Spoiler: click to toggle Intertwined's (me) Team: Light Lou's Team: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rules: Ladder Match, Sleep Clause, Freeze Clause, OHKO Clause, Evasion Clause, Species Clause, Strict Damage Clause Intertwined sent out Rotom-h (lvl 100 Rotom-h). Light Luo sent out Act5 (lvl 100 Ludicolo ?). Rotom-h used Thunderbolt. Act5 lost 52% of its health. Act5 used Rain Dance. Rain began to fall! The rain continues to fall. Act5's Rain Dish restored its health a little! Act5 restored 6% of its health. Act5's leftovers restored its health a little! Act5 restored 6% of its health. Well, I wasn't quite sure what to do, so I just Tbolted him for the obvious Rain Dance. Oh, by the way, this is Specs Rotom-h, because he's my new favorite Platinum lead. --- Rotom-h used Thunderbolt. Act5 lost 53% of its health. Act5 used Toxic. Rotom-h was badly poisoned! The rain continues to fall. Act5's Rain Dish restored its health a little! Act5 restored 6% of its health. Rotom-h is hurt by poison! Rotom-h lost 6% of its health. Act5's leftovers restored its health a little! Act5 restored 6% of its health. Hm. You don't see that a lot, so I guess I should be happy that I have a so-far original opponent? xD --- Intertwined switched in Blissey (lvl 100 Blissey ?). Act5 used Rest. Act5 fell asleep! Act5 restored 81% of its health. Act5's Rain Dish restored its health a little! The rain continues to fall. --- y4ngst3r has entered the room. Intertwined switched in Celebi (lvl 100 Celebi). Light Luo switched in Act12 (lvl 100 shitrmory ?). The rain continues to fall. Suppose he wanted to set up rocks. --- Celebi used Perish Song. Both Pokemon will faint in 3 turn(s) Act12 used Stealth Rock. Pointed stones float in the air around your foe's team! The rain stopped. Celebi's perish count fell to 3! Act12's perish count fell to 3! The thing is one of my favorite things to use. Perish is kind of my way to be sure of my predictions, as well as pseudo haze. --- Light Luo switched in Act5 (lvl 100 Ludicolo ?). Celebi used Grass Knot. Act5 lost 21% of its health. Act5's leftovers restored its health a little! Act5 restored 6% of its health. Celebi's perish count fell to 2! --- Celebi used Stealth Rock. Act5 is fast asleep! Act5's leftovers restored its health a little! Act5 restored 6% of its health. Celebi's perish count fell to 1! Rocks for a-stallin'. --- Intertwined switched in Tentacruel (lvl 100 Tentacruel ?). Pointed stones dug into Tentacruel. Tentacruel lost 12% of its health. Act5 is fast asleep! Tentacruel's Black Sludge restored a little health! Tentacruel restored 6% of its health. Act5's leftovers restored its health a little! Act5 restored 6% of its health. --- Tentacruel used Toxic Spikes. Spikes were scattered everywhere! Toxic Spikes were scattered around the foe's team! Act5 woke up! Act5 used Rain Dance. Rain began to fall! The rain continues to fall. Act5's Rain Dish restored its health a little! Act5 restored 3% of its health. Tentacruel's Black Sludge restored a little health! Tentacruel restored 6% of its health. --- Tentacruel used Toxic Spikes. Toxic Spikes were scattered around the foe's team! Act5 used Surf. It's not very effective... Tentacruel lost 13% of its health. The rain continues to fall. Act5's Rain Dish restored its health a little! Tentacruel's Black Sludge restored a little health! Tentacruel restored 6% of its health. Two down. Only need spikes. --- Light Luo switched in Act12 (lvl 100 shitrmory ?). Pointed stones dug into Act12. Act12 lost 12% of its health. Tentacruel used Toxic. It doesn't affect Act12... The rain continues to fall. Tentacruel's Black Sludge restored a little health! Tentacruel restored 6% of its health. Act12's leftovers restored its health a little! Act12 restored 6% of its health. He's expecting a spin? I dunno. Whatever. xD --- Tentacruel used Surf. Act12 lost 72% of its health. Act12 used Spikes. Spikes were scattered everywhere! Spikes were scattered around the foe's team! The rain continues to fall. Tentacruel's Black Sludge restored a little health! Tentacruel restored 1% of its health. Act12's leftovers restored its health a little! Act12 restored 6% of its health. --- Tentacruel used Rapid Spin. Tentacruel blew away the spikes! It's not very effective... Act12 lost 1% of its health. Act12 used Spikes. Spikes were scattered around the foe's team! The rain stopped. Act12's leftovers restored its health a little! Act12 restored 6% of its health. --- Tentacruel used Surf. Act12 lost 32% of its health. Light Luo's Act12 fainted. Stupid on his part. --- Light Luo switched in Act6 (lvl 100 Gyarados ?). Pointed stones dug into Act6. Act6 lost 25% of its health. Act6 used Dragon Dance. Act6's attack was raised. Act6's speed was raised. Tentacruel used Toxic. Act6 was badly poisoned! Act6's leftovers restored its health a little! Act6 restored 6% of its health. Act6 is hurt by poison! Act6 lost 6% of its health. --- Intertwined switched in shitrmory (lvl 100 shitrmory ?). Act6 used Earthquake. It doesn't affect shitrmory... Act6's leftovers restored its health a little! Act6 restored 6% of its health. Act6 is hurt by poison! Act6 lost 12% of its health. --- Act6 used Dragon Dance. Act6's attack was raised. Act6's speed was raised. shitrmory used Whirlwind. Light Luo switched in Act10 (lvl 100 Kingdra ?). Pointed stones dug into Act10. Act10 lost 12% of its health. Act10 was badly poisoned! Act10 was badly poisoned by the Toxic Spikes! Act10 is hurt by poison! Act10 lost 6% of its health. --- Act10 used Ice Beam. shitrmory lost 49% of its health. Act10 lost 10% of its health. shitrmory used Whirlwind. Light Luo switched in Act4 (lvl 100 Milotic ?). Pointed stones dug into Act4. Act4 lost 12% of its health. Act4 was badly poisoned! Act4 was badly poisoned by the Toxic Spikes! Act4's leftovers restored its health a little! Act4 restored 6% of its health. Act4 is hurt by poison! Act4 lost 6% of its health. shitrmory's leftovers restored its health a little! shitrmory restored 6% of its health. --- Intertwined switched in Celebi (lvl 100 Celebi). Celebi was hurt by Spikes! Celebi lost 12% of its health. Act4 used Ice Beam. It's super effective! Celebi lost 32% of its health. Celebi's leftovers restored its health a little! Celebi restored 6% of its health. Act4's leftovers restored its health a little! Act4 restored 6% of its health. Act4 is hurt by poison! Act4 lost 12% of its health. --- Celebi used Perish Song. Both Pokemon will faint in 3 turn(s) Act4 used Ice Beam. It's super effective! Celebi lost 29% of its health. Celebi was frozen solid! Celebi's leftovers restored its health a little! Celebi restored 6% of its health. Act4's leftovers restored its health a little! Act4 restored 6% of its health. Act4 is hurt by poison! Act4 lost 18% of its health. Celebi's perish count fell to 3! Act4's perish count fell to 3! You can tell that I abuse Perish Song just because I want to. --- Celebi was defrosted! Intertwined switched in Tentacruel (lvl 100 Tentacruel ?). Tentacruel was hurt by Spikes! Tentacruel lost 12% of its health. Act4 used Ice Beam. It's not very effective... Tentacruel lost 7% of its health. Tentacruel's Black Sludge restored a little health! Tentacruel restored 6% of its health. Act4's leftovers restored its health a little! Act4 restored 6% of its health. Act4 is hurt by poison! Act4 lost 24% of its health. Act4's perish count fell to 2! --- Tentacruel used Rapid Spin. Tentacruel blew away the spikes! Act4 lost 2% of its health. Act4 used Water Pulse. It's not very effective... Tentacruel lost 7% of its health. Tentacruel's Black Sludge restored a little health! Tentacruel restored 6% of its health. Act4's leftovers restored its health a little! Act4 restored 6% of its health. Act4 is hurt by poison! Act4 lost 30% of its health. Act4's perish count fell to 1! --- Intertwined switched in Celebi (lvl 100 Celebi). Act4 used Rain Dance. Rain began to fall! The rain continues to fall. Celebi's leftovers restored its health a little! Celebi restored 6% of its health. Act4's leftovers restored its health a little! Act4 restored 6% of its health. Act4 is hurt by poison! Act4 lost 31% of its health. Light Luo's Act4 fainted. --- Light Luo switched in Act6 (lvl 100 Gyarados ?). Act6's intimidate cut Celebi's attack! Pointed stones dug into Act6. Act6 lost 25% of its health. Act6 used Ice Fang. It's super effective! Celebi lost 37% of its health. Celebi used Recover. Celebi restored 50% of its health. The rain continues to fall. Act6's leftovers restored its health a little! Act6 restored 6% of its health. Act6 is hurt by poison! Act6 lost 6% of its health. Celebi's leftovers restored its health a little! Celebi restored 6% of its health. --- Act6 used Dragon Dance. Act6's attack was raised. Act6's speed was raised. Celebi used Recover. Celebi restored 36% of its health. The rain continues to fall. Act6's leftovers restored its health a little! Act6 restored 6% of its health. Act6 is hurt by poison! Act6 lost 12% of its health. --- Act6 used Ice Fang. It's super effective! Celebi lost 50% of its health. Celebi was frozen solid! Celebi is frozen solid! The rain continues to fall. Act6's leftovers restored its health a little! Act6 restored 6% of its health. Act6 is hurt by poison! Act6 lost 18% of its health. Celebi's leftovers restored its health a little! Celebi restored 6% of its health. Scary. --- Celebi was defrosted! Intertwined switched in shitrmory (lvl 100 shitrmory ?). Act6 used Ice Fang. shitrmory lost 23% of its health. The rain stopped. Act6's leftovers restored its health a little! Act6 restored 6% of its health. Act6 is hurt by poison! Act6 lost 24% of its health. shitrmory's leftovers restored its health a little! shitrmory restored 6% of its health. --- Intertwined switched in Tentacruel (lvl 100 Tentacruel ?). Act6 used Ice Fang. It's not very effective... Tentacruel lost 24% of its health. Act6's leftovers restored its health a little! Act6 restored 6% of its health. Act6 is hurt by poison! Act6 lost 14% of its health. Light Luo's Act6 fainted. Tentacruel's Black Sludge restored a little health! Tentacruel restored 6% of its health. Or not... --- Light Luo switched in Act5 (lvl 100 Ludicolo ?). Pointed stones dug into Act5. Act5 lost 12% of its health. Act5 was badly poisoned! Act5 was badly poisoned by the Toxic Spikes! Intertwined switched in Rotom-h (lvl 100 Rotom-h). Act5 used Surf. Rotom-h lost 36% of its health. Rotom-h is hurt by poison! Rotom-h lost 6% of its health. Act5's leftovers restored its health a little! Act5 restored 6% of its health. Act5 is hurt by poison! Act5 lost 6% of its health. --- Rotom-h used Thunderbolt. Act5 lost 59% of its health. Act5 used Surf. Rotom-h lost 40% of its health. Rotom-h is hurt by poison! Rotom-h lost 12% of its health. Intertwined's Rotom-h fainted. Act5's leftovers restored its health a little! Act5 restored 6% of its health. Act5 is hurt by poison! Act5 lost 12% of its health. --- Intertwined switched in Celebi (lvl 100 Celebi). Celebi used Grass Knot. Act5 lost 22% of its health. Light Luo's Act5 fainted. Celebi's leftovers restored its health a little! Celebi restored 6% of its health. --- Light Luo switched in Act11 (lvl 100 Yanmega ?). Pointed stones dug into Act11. Act11 lost 50% of its health. Intertwined switched in Blissey (lvl 100 Blissey ?). Act11 used Endure. Act11 braced itself! Act11's Speed Boost raised its speed! --- Act11 used U-turn. Blissey lost 23% of its health. Light Luo switched in Act10 (lvl 100 Kingdra ?). Pointed stones dug into Act10. Act10 lost 12% of its health. Blissey used Ice Beam. Act10 lost 20% of its health. Act10 is hurt by poison! Act10 lost 6% of its health. Blissey's leftovers restored its health a little! Blissey restored 6% of its health. --- Act10 used Dragon Pulse. Blissey lost 17% of its health. Act10 lost 10% of its health. Blissey used Seismic Toss. Act10 lost 23% of its health. Light Luo's Act10 fainted. Blissey's leftovers restored its health a little! Blissey restored 6% of its health. ;_; I didn't get to kill it with Perish Song... --- y4ngst3r has left the room. Light Luo switched in Act11 (lvl 100 Yanmega ?). Pointed stones dug into Act11. Act11 lost 50% of its health. Light Luo's Act11 fainted. Intertwined wins! Intertwined: gg Light Luo: gg



Sheed	Jun 21 2009, 11:08 AM Post #11
Jesus Himself Posts: 3,660 Group: PokeMods Member #8 Joined: Jan 17, 2008	^In agreement^ Tentacruel is amazing for a stall team. I just dunno what to replace on your team. Either Jirachi or Togekiss would probably be it, but Jirachi seems better here, and if you keep him in, you've got 3 Fire weaks, and 3 Fire resists, a stark contrast. It's really up to preference.
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TheOedipusRex	Jun 21 2009, 02:20 PM Post #12
1st Grand Champion of The Gym Leader Castle Posts: 414 Group: PokeMods Member #212 Joined: Jun 19, 2009	I'm not too sure about it but I would be willing to try out Tentacruel. I would probably replace Suicune as they are similar. Maybe I could replace Togekiss if not Suicune, but Togekiss is part of the paraflinch strategy. One of my concerns is that a Pokemon will be poisoned when I need it to be paralyzed. Regardless I found two sets for Tentacruel that I like. They are: Tentacruel @ Leftovers Ability: Liquid Ooze Nature: Calm (+ Special Defense, - Attack) EVs: 252 HP / 120 Defense / 136 Special Defense ~ Surf ~ Toxic Spikes ~ Sludge Bomb ~ Rapid Spin This set has more utility than the one after it. It has Surf and Sludge Bomb as STAB attacks. Toxic Spikes is still there to induce poison and Rapid Spin can blow away entry hazards. Tentacruel @ Leftovers Ability: Liquid Ooze Nature: Calm (+ Special Defense, - Attack) EVs: 252 HP / 56 Defense / 200 Special Defense ~ Toxic Spikes ~ Surf ~ Sleep Talk ~ Rest This is set more defensive. It still has Toxic Spikes for poison and Surf to attack but Sludge Bomb and Rapid Spin are replaced by Rest and Sleep Talk to improve Tentacruel's durability. On another note I switched Refresh on Jirachi for U-Turn. Refresh was useless in my matches and U-Turn lets Jirachi scout and pass Wish. I also changed up the EV spread. Edited by TheOedipusRex, Jun 21 2009, 02:27 PM.
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Shaun	Jun 22 2009, 11:32 AM Post #13
Disaster Master Posts: 1,297 Group: Global Moderators Member #32 Joined: Jan 19, 2008	Minimal threats: Shaun I don't remember all these, you've been busy.
	http://s1.zetaboards.com/Ganime_Otaku_Boards/index 22:39 <Shaun>: Everytime i read one of his posts, my testacles produce sperm that much slower 22:40 <semianonymous>: it should be the other way around 22:40 <semianonymous>: if you produce more 22:40 <semianonymous>: then you can create an army that much faster 22:40 <semianonymous>: to declare war on your multi-angled foe


TheOedipusRex	Jun 22 2009, 01:46 PM Post #14
1st Grand Champion of The Gym Leader Castle Posts: 414 Group: PokeMods Member #212 Joined: Jun 19, 2009	Yeah I have been busy. I've been play testing a lot with Shoddy. You'd do well against me Shaun. Care for a battle to prep for the tournament?
	A signature tells others who someone is. Here are a few details about myself. I am... Spoiler: click to toggle ~ I am a PokeMod ~ The Organizer and Head of The Gym Leader Castle ~ The Champion of The Gym Leader Castle ~ The 8th Gym Leader of The Gym Leader Castle ~ I am the author of Team Vex, the most annoying team on Poke Portal ~ The author of TheOedipusRex's Guide on how to make a RMT And I have at least 100 Posts! All of this is very soon after TheOedipusRex Joined the Brawl!!! I also love to battle Pokemon. While I do not often use WiFi, my Shoddy Battle name on Smogon University's server is TheOedipusRex. Furthermore, I do a lot of a lot of rates and fixes of other people's Pokemon team. If you need help with your team, or need help in any other way, let me know and I see what I can do


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