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Shoddy Team
Topic Started: Jun 18 2009, 06:51 PM (139 Views)
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I started this team with some crap on it, got to editing it, and eventually got this: What do you think?

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Metagros w/Occa Berry
Adamant / Clear Body
252 HP, 236 ATK, 12 DEF

Bullet Punch
Earthquake
Explosion
Stealth Rock

My lead, comes out, stealth rocks, then does as much damage as it can before 'ploding.


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Dragonite w/ Lum Berry
Adamant / Inner Focus
6 HP, 252 ATK, 252 SPEED

Dragon Dance
Fire Punch
Earthquake
Outrage

Ragenite, obviously. He's one of the main sweepers, deals heavy damage with Dragon Dance then Outrage. His Lum Berry cures the confusion or any other status effect that hits me like paralyze or sleep. His Fire Punch and Earthquake deal with other Threats like Metagross, Forretress, and Scizor.


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Heracross w/ Choice Scarf
Jolly / Guts
252 ATK, 6 DEF, 252 SPEED

Close Combat
Megahorn
Night Slash
Stone Edge

Another good sweep. His choice band makes him faster than anything without Choice Scarf. Because he's a physical sweep, he's constantly targeted for paralyze or burn. However, this only makes him even stronger. And his weaknesses are pretty much covered, Heatran with Choice Band is about all I've seen that can take him down without resisting a hit first. Megahorn easily takes care of the fact there are two fighting types on this team.


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Snorlax w/ Lum Berry
Adamant / Immunity
252 HP, 252 ATK, 6 DEF

Curse
Rest
Super power
Zen Headbutt

I saw this particular snorlax used against me and decided to try it for myself. He seems ample replacement for Machamp, he hits just a tad harder. Lum Berry is there for status/rest recovery. The huge amounts of Cursing done boost me to an almost invincible state if I get them pulled off.


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Blissey w/ Leftovers
Calm / Natural Cure
150 HP, 252 DEF, 108 SATK

Ice Beam
Seismic Toss
Softboiled
Thunderwave

This Blissey has my ass once or twice. Seismic spam combined with Softboiled is pretty beast actually. It's saved more times than a WishBliss has. The Ice Beam is for whatever is immune to Seismic Toss.


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Alakazam w/Choice Specs
Timid / Synchronize
252 SPEED, 252 SATK, 6 SDEF

Focus Blast
Psychic
Signal Beam
Trick

A Trick-Kazam. The choice specs prove useful against the occasional Gengar or other threat of the sort. But if I need to stop a status-user, Trick is idealy used. Alakazam's defense is rather bogus, but its off-set by his godly SATK.



I may turn this into my in-game team if I can gather all of these up...
Edited by Overthrown, Jun 18 2009, 09:08 PM.
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Swampert pwns j00. : P

Actually, it looks pretty solid from my view, although I haven't played for months. You should prolly use Choice Scarf rather than Choice Band on Heracross so he's faster like you say, but it seems pretty good.
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I'll rate this later. Off the bat I see horrible EVs, breloom lead fucks you, scarfgyara fucks you, etcw
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I think it takes some skill to pull of using fighting type pokemon. Maybe i'm wrong, but they've never worked for me and whoever i'm facing doesn't seem to manage to keep them in either.

...Apart from Hitmontop for some reason. :/

Looks like some classics here. Not a huge fan of Trickzam. But then again that's because a forum fried my ass about Alakazam sets so I'm pretty careful with him now.
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22:39 <Shaun>: Everytime i read one of his posts, my testacles produce sperm that much slower
22:40 <semianonymous>: it should be the other way around
22:40 <semianonymous>: if you produce more
22:40 <semianonymous>: then you can create an army that much faster
22:40 <semianonymous>: to declare war on your multi-angled foe
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Oh? I wrote Choice Band? I meant Scarf... my bad. Breloom would get raped by Heracross Btw. Tried it and proved it.
Edited by Overthrown, Jun 18 2009, 07:11 PM.
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Jun 18 2009, 07:09 PM
Oh? I wrote Choice Band? I meant Scarf... my bad. Breloom would get raped by Heracross Btw. Tried it and proved it.
breloom leads, outspeeds gross, spore

sub up

focus punch/leech seed

you switch hera in to a big dent from focus punch or you get a leech seed

focus punch either leaving you near dead (assuming he focus punched you) or dead. The other situation is that you're seeded, he heals, spores you, then switches to something to counter the obvious close combat/megahorn which you can't predict well enough because you've only seen breloom.

He has the over pokemon, which will probably continue to leach you.
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I'd switch to Machamp vs. Breloom lead, but that's not really a solution, that's just delaying the problem. I don't think you change cast members from what is essentially a solid team just to counter one pokemon, albeit a preveleant one. You can, however, change the order. Dragonite lead could work, as your team is sturdy enough to switch in on a physical attacker.
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Jun 18 2009, 07:22 PM
I'd switch to Machamp vs. Breloom lead, but that's not really a solution, that's just delaying the problem. I don't think you change cast members from what is essentially a solid team just to counter one pokemon, albeit a preveleant one. You can, however, change the order. Dragonite lead could work, as your team is sturdy enough to switch in on a physical attacker.
actually, the best idea would be an alakazam lead

speed trumps most shit (rocks, breloom, etc)
trick trumps stupid asses who still fall for trick

maybe shove some sexy HP electric on zam for gyara.
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Breloom are far and few between as it is... I'll see how I deal with one when I get to it...
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Replaced Machamp with Curse Snorlax...
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Jun 18 2009, 09:08 PM
Replaced Machamp with Curse Snorlax...
good luck with scarfape buddy
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I see no reason for the switch, you really just made a change from a solid role-filler to a useless pokemon that tries to stall. Plus, like above, I hear Infernape's a decent dude.

But, y'know, testing results are the best barometer.
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Jun 18 2009, 09:44 PM

But, y'know, testing results are the best barometer.
yeah

I suppose

but you have to play people at my level, otherwise you have random faggots doing random things
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I've been swapping around.. Snorlax has already been replaced... I'm looking for something to fill a good role... on Weavile right now...

And pura, I can honestly say I don't like your tone... but whatever, you're you.
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Jun 18 2009, 10:09 PM
I've been swapping around.. Snorlax has already been replaced... I'm looking for something to fill a good role... on Weavile right now...

And pura, I can honestly say I don't like your tone... but whatever, you're you.
my tone?

I'm not sure how you can identify that over the internet, but whatever

don't take it that way, it's just how I learned to explain this

you go to any truly good place... they'll all speak like this
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TPA and Smogon were full of people who talked like that. But generally they knew what they were talking about.

Nice people have no place in the poke circuit. >:3
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22:39 <Shaun>: Everytime i read one of his posts, my testacles produce sperm that much slower
22:40 <semianonymous>: it should be the other way around
22:40 <semianonymous>: if you produce more
22:40 <semianonymous>: then you can create an army that much faster
22:40 <semianonymous>: to declare war on your multi-angled foe
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Lol well whatever. I just don't like the way it sounds to me. . . I mean, I'm not ignoring your criticism or anything... I've just been swapping around, and so far Weavile seems to be able to take the occasional Breloom, he's a decent revenge-killer.
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I just logged onto Shoddy in the first time in a while, and my very first team was saved to My Documents.

You wanna test your team against me sometime Overthrown?
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22:39 <Shaun>: Everytime i read one of his posts, my testacles produce sperm that much slower
22:40 <semianonymous>: it should be the other way around
22:40 <semianonymous>: if you produce more
22:40 <semianonymous>: then you can create an army that much faster
22:40 <semianonymous>: to declare war on your multi-angled foe
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Hey, whenever you want to go, I'll fight you. What's your name? Mine is Cryptomiser.
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I'll log on now. It's Shaunodragun.

(I know what you're thinking, but I couldn't remember my Whitedragun account password.)
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22:39 <Shaun>: Everytime i read one of his posts, my testacles produce sperm that much slower
22:40 <semianonymous>: it should be the other way around
22:40 <semianonymous>: if you produce more
22:40 <semianonymous>: then you can create an army that much faster
22:40 <semianonymous>: to declare war on your multi-angled foe
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