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My newest team. Pls give your thoughts.
Topic Started: Feb 28 2009, 11:37 PM (373 Views)
Britney Spears
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Here it is:

Pokemon #1:
Forretress Lv 100
Nature: Relaxed
EVs: 252 HP 162 Atk 96 Def
Held Item: Macho Brace
Chosen Ability: Sturdy

Stats due to EVs:
HP: 354
Atk: 256
Def: 374
Sp Atk: 156
Sp Def: 156
Speed: 38 (It has 0 IVs, and is holding Macho Brace that is why.)

Moveset:

Stealth Rock
Spikes
Gyro Ball
Rapid Spin

Pokemon #2:
Alakazam LV 100
Nature: Timid
EVs: 24 HP 216 Sp Atk 252 Speed 16 Sp Def
Held Item: Leftovers
Chosen Ability: Synchronize

Stats due to EVs:

HP: 257
Atk: 122
Def: 126
Sp Atk: 360
Sp Def: 210
Speed: 372

Moveset:

Psychic
Signal Beam
Substitute
Encore

Pokemon #3:
Breloom Lv 100
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 44 HP 252 Atk 212 Speed
Held Item: Toxic Orb
Chosen Ability: Poison Heal

Stats due to EVs:

HP: 272
Atk: 394
Def: 196
Sp Atk: 140
Sp Def: 156
Speed: 229

Moveset:

Spore
Substitute
Leech Seed
Focus Punch

Pokemon #4:
Spiritomb Lv 100
Nature: Careful
EVs: 252 HP 172 Atk 84 Sp Def
Held Item: Leftovers
Chose Ability: Pressure

Stats due to EVs:

HP: 304
Atk: 263
Def: 252
Sp Atk: 198
Sp Def: 300
Speed: 106

Moveset:

Taunt
Pain Split
Sucker Punch
Will-o-Wisp

Pokemon #5:
Gyarados Lv 100
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 156 HP 108 Atk 100 Def 144 Speed
Held Item: Leftovers
Chose Ability: Intimidate

Stats due to EVs:

HP: 370
Atk: 344
Def: 219
Sp Atk: 140
Sp Def: 236
Speed: 234

Moveset:

Taunt
Dragon Dance
Waterfall
Stone Edge

Pokemon #6:
Electivire Lv 100
Nature: Mild
EVs: 36 Atk 252 Sp Atk 220 Speed
Held Item: Life Orb
Chose Ability: Motor Drive

Stats due to EVs:

HP: 291
Atk: 291
Def: 152
Sp Atk: 317
Sp Def: 206
Speed: 281

Moveset:

Thunderbolt
Flamethrower
Ice Punch
Cross Chop


How this team works:

Forretress is the Spikes/Stealth Rock starter. He can easily handle Aerodactyl leads. If he tries to Taunt me, I will Gyro Ball him and he dies. If he is holding Focus Sash, he will set up Stealth Rock the next turn, and I will Rapid Spin it away, killing him because he has 1 HP left. If it is an Ambipom trying to Fake Out, I switch in Spiritomb, with his immunity to it. The trainer will then use U-turn at me and switch in to something threatening like Gyarados or Salamence, but I Will-o-Wisp him, crippling the switch in. Spiritomb also has enough Sp Def EVs to survive a Choice Specs Draco Meteor from Salamence, then I can automatically use Pain Split to heal myself back and he just wasted 2 PP due to pressure. And he will have to switch out as well, so I can restore more health with Pain Split. If my Forretress is facing a Heatran, I just switch out to my Gyarados and can set up Dragon Dance. Then the foe will probably switch in Starmie/Zapdos/Jolteon at me and thinks he can dispose of me. There is where Electivire comes in to absorb it and get a speed boost so he can start sweeping teams. If the opponent however has a Hippowdon who can stop Electivire, I have Gyarados to deal with him. I can Taunt his attempts to use Slack Off and Stealth Rock and set-up easiy then sweep. My opponent will then try to send in Bronzong to explode on me, but I switch in Spiritomb and he exploded on a ghost, meaning to say he wasted one of his Pokemon for nothing. For my Alakazam, I send him into something like a Machamp to scare him off. My foe will then switch in Blissey and try to Thunder Wave me. Big big mistake. I use Substitute,. then Encore. meaning to say I will either KO that Blissey or my foe will switch out to another Pokemon and get that Pokemon killed because he was put in the KO range of Psychic due to Stealth Rock and Spikes. And I am still hiding behind a subsitute, meaning to say I put my opponent in a bad spot. Same for Breloom, I switch him in to something he can scare off, Blissey and then cripple the switch in with Spore, then use Substitue and drain the opponent of HP with Leech Seed or use Focus Punch to KO the pesky target while still behind a substitute.


So what do you think of my team? Criticism is alright.
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I don't have time to do a full rate but, I noticed you have a HUGE Celebi weakness. Particularly CM. Particularly offensive CM. It can set-up on half your team and sweep.
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Hm...That can happen if Alakazam and Spiritomb are gone.But if they are kept alive, it can't.
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Spiritomb maybe, but alakazam won't be OHKOing with signal beam after a calm mind.
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Mar 1 2009, 05:35 PM
Spiritomb maybe, but alakazam won't be OHKOing with signal beam after a calm mind.
Yes, but he will 2KO before Celebi can use Recover, since he is faster, and Grass Knot won't OHKO him even after a Calm Mind.
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Mar 1 2009, 12:52 PM
I don't have time to do a full rate but, I noticed you have a HUGE Celebi weakness. Particularly CM. Particularly offensive CM. It can set-up on half your team and sweep.
Simple solution, I just get my Alakazam to use Encore on his Calm Minds and he WILL have to switch or get beaten up lol. I have severe trouble with Tricksters though. There are too few Pokemon immune to Trick. They are: Arceus, Gastrodon, Muk and Sticky Hold Swalot. Really, if I do have wifi the move I will ban is Trick.
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>.> I didn't notice the encore...
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Banning Trick, really, now. It's not hard to counter, just have a Pokemon that uses a Choice Item to ignore it. And I noticed your team has an extreme lack of defense against Dragons. I really don't think Forretress is a good counter, since it is far too easy to defeat (ANY fire move will do it, really) considering how prominent fire moves are. It's not likely to survive very long to set up, and is very easily Taunted. I don't have time for a full rate at the moment though. You're also kinda weak to Gengar and offensive Azelf, basically any all-out special attacker.
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Mar 3 2009, 08:04 PM
Banning Trick, really, now. It's not hard to counter, just have a Pokemon that uses a Choice Item to ignore it. And I noticed your team has an extreme lack of defense against Dragons. I really don't think Forretress is a good counter, since it is far too easy to defeat (ANY fire move will do it, really) considering how prominent fire moves are. It's not likely to survive very long to set up, and is very easily Taunted. I don't have time for a full rate at the moment though. You're also kinda weak to Gengar and offensive Azelf, basically any all-out special attacker.
I have no problems with Gengar and Azelf when I have Spiritomb with me. And Gyarados is there to absorb fire attacks. The foe like Salamence will probably use Outrage next, and I have my Forretress to stop that Salamence.
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You make it seem like you know what your opponent will do. For one thing

Blissey still beats up your 'Zam. Most don't T-Wave right after they get in. You know what Ice Beam/Seismic Toss is for? It's for scouting incoming switches. Why else would Blissey stay in on a Dragon if it's at full health and just finished Ice Beaming one? (Dragon for example purposes)

You got one thing right, and that's the Forry part. However, W-o-W is standard on Spiritomb and that is (in my experience of battling) the number 1 move that it'll use when you can force a switch (such as your example w/ Ambipom). I'm sure most people won't switch in a Physical attacker to it, but a cleric/someone with Toxic.

Just one more thing I want to say is that if you "know" that someone will bring in something to "dispose" of your Gyarados, why DD in the first place? You're just going to switch right after. Why not just straight out attack first to scout?

I didn't rate your team, I'm just arguing against your 1-sided situations.
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