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Moku Moku no Ingnite-uuuuu; Fire pls[Flagged]
Topic Started: Dec 31 2016, 11:10 AM (349 Views)
Fudo Saiken
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Character: Fujin AKA Fudo JR
Request: Approval
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Plume-Boy (Free Rank 4)
Type: Free Devil Fruit Ability
Range: Self
Power: 0
Stats:
Description: The Moku Moku no Mi is a logia based devil fruit that gives Fujin the ability to produce, control and become smoke. He is able to make the smoke more dense at will and become puffy clouds if need be. The moku moku no mi also allows Fujin to fly and/or levitate at will. In smoke form, he has the standard logia immunity to strike, pierce and slash damage. With enough concentration Fujin can spread his smoke as well, creating smoke screens in small areas.



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Plume-Boy 14(10+4)(Free Rank 4)
Type: Free Devil Fruit Ability
Range: Self
Power: 0
Stats:
Description: The Moku Moku no Mi is a logia based devil fruit that gives Fujin the ability to produce, control and become smoke. He is able to make the smoke more dense at will and become puffy clouds if need be. The moku moku no mi also allows Fujin to fly and/or levitate at will. In smoke form, he has the standard logia immunity to strike, pierce and slash damage. With enough concentration Fujin can spread his smoke as well, creating smoke screens in small areas.


  • Rank 4: With a bit of practice, Fujin has managed to learn how to change the color and density of his smoke.

  • Rank 14: Fujin can make his smoke dense, thick, and heavy to where it is quite literally a physical force- and similar to dense smog in consistency. At the opposite end of the spectrum he can make his smock incredibly thin, where it can then slip through even the smallest of cracks in a surface.'


Edited by Fudo Saiken, Jan 18 2017, 10:03 AM.
FUDO & SONS FIGHTING CO.
Fudo "Saikyō" Saiken • Captain • Saiken Silver Grand Master/Smith •
Beast Blood Pirates Bounty: 390,000,000 • SD Earned: 1032 • Beli: - • Location: Sky IslandsStrength:- Speed: - Stamina: - Accuracy: - Fortune: -
Fujin Saiken • Pirate • Thief/Martial Artist •
Bounty: 40,000,000• SD Earned: 210 • Beli: - • Location: Sky IslandsStrength:- Speed: - Stamina: - Accuracy: - Fortune: -
Gran Kin Umino-Kimono Saiken • Other • Smith/Martial Artist •
Threat: 0• SD Earned: 45 • Beli: - • Location: GLStrength:- Speed: - Stamina: - Accuracy: - Fortune: -
Cero Saiken • Other • Inventor/Marksman •
Threat: 0• SD Earned: 95 • Beli: - • Location: Cactus IslandStrength:- Speed: - Stamina: - Accuracy: - Fortune: -


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Can't say I'm feeling it. Even if the real world logic checks out, we don't really run on real world logic and there has been zero evidence in cannon to suggest the Moku's smoke has any elevated temperature. Not saying you can't do ignition stuff with it, but I'm going to have to no doing it at r14.
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I guess if real world logic won't apply to getting ignition at r14 over r28, alright




How about getting the smoke effect for thiefs reduced?
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At the very least the obscuring effect of smoke would make sense to be reduced?

Also reading up some op stuff in chapters and wiki, smoker can make his smoke dense enough to capture people and strike them(without use of haki). What's the consensus on that stuff

Edited by Fudo Saiken, Jan 15 2017, 04:00 AM.
FUDO & SONS FIGHTING CO.
Fudo "Saikyō" Saiken • Captain • Saiken Silver Grand Master/Smith •
Beast Blood Pirates Bounty: 390,000,000 • SD Earned: 1032 • Beli: - • Location: Sky IslandsStrength:- Speed: - Stamina: - Accuracy: - Fortune: -
Fujin Saiken • Pirate • Thief/Martial Artist •
Bounty: 40,000,000• SD Earned: 210 • Beli: - • Location: Sky IslandsStrength:- Speed: - Stamina: - Accuracy: - Fortune: -
Gran Kin Umino-Kimono Saiken • Other • Smith/Martial Artist •
Threat: 0• SD Earned: 45 • Beli: - • Location: GLStrength:- Speed: - Stamina: - Accuracy: - Fortune: -
Cero Saiken • Other • Inventor/Marksman •
Threat: 0• SD Earned: 95 • Beli: - • Location: Cactus IslandStrength:- Speed: - Stamina: - Accuracy: - Fortune: -


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I'd say yeah, you could get smoke as a free effect in leiur of elemental damage or something. Obviously its normally a stealth only past rank 8, but c'mon its the smoke fruit...

Making smoke dense enough to physically handle stuff is fine. Obviously you'll have to pay associated costs, and maintain a giant smoke hand or something would require construct, but its entirely doable.
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So could I get that added to the base logia tech?

How should I go about it

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FUDO & SONS FIGHTING CO.
Fudo "Saikyō" Saiken • Captain • Saiken Silver Grand Master/Smith •
Beast Blood Pirates Bounty: 390,000,000 • SD Earned: 1032 • Beli: - • Location: Sky IslandsStrength:- Speed: - Stamina: - Accuracy: - Fortune: -
Fujin Saiken • Pirate • Thief/Martial Artist •
Bounty: 40,000,000• SD Earned: 210 • Beli: - • Location: Sky IslandsStrength:- Speed: - Stamina: - Accuracy: - Fortune: -
Gran Kin Umino-Kimono Saiken • Other • Smith/Martial Artist •
Threat: 0• SD Earned: 45 • Beli: - • Location: GLStrength:- Speed: - Stamina: - Accuracy: - Fortune: -
Cero Saiken • Other • Inventor/Marksman •
Threat: 0• SD Earned: 95 • Beli: - • Location: Cactus IslandStrength:- Speed: - Stamina: - Accuracy: - Fortune: -


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Since you've invested something into the base tech, 14 should be fine. Just note that, having gotten to rank 14, he can create concealing smoke for free on any of his smoke based techs, if he so chooses.
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FUDO & SONS FIGHTING CO.
Fudo "Saikyō" Saiken • Captain • Saiken Silver Grand Master/Smith •
Beast Blood Pirates Bounty: 390,000,000 • SD Earned: 1032 • Beli: - • Location: Sky IslandsStrength:- Speed: - Stamina: - Accuracy: - Fortune: -
Fujin Saiken • Pirate • Thief/Martial Artist •
Bounty: 40,000,000• SD Earned: 210 • Beli: - • Location: Sky IslandsStrength:- Speed: - Stamina: - Accuracy: - Fortune: -
Gran Kin Umino-Kimono Saiken • Other • Smith/Martial Artist •
Threat: 0• SD Earned: 45 • Beli: - • Location: GLStrength:- Speed: - Stamina: - Accuracy: - Fortune: -
Cero Saiken • Other • Inventor/Marksman •
Threat: 0• SD Earned: 95 • Beli: - • Location: Cactus IslandStrength:- Speed: - Stamina: - Accuracy: - Fortune: -


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Gonna have to drop this in for clarification. Since, I made the mistake first-hand.

Free Effects can't be attached to non-Paramecia fruits, especially since the intangibility, flight and other elemental shenanigans are suppose to be the go-to benefits of Logias.
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Just going to have to be one of those situations where the rules are a little kooky. Can we at least agree that moku has access to the smoke effect, regardless of whether the user is thief/assassin primary?
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That's fine, how about a reduced cost?

One trait rank for a reduced cost on an effect that is almost implicit, is something I won't argue. I would however be open to even increasing the tier of moku if something like...smoke being obscuring...is so outlandish that it costs a trait.

But yea, a reduced cost or something, on at least the smoke effect for the smoke logia seems like a no brainer...again, willing to work out whatever
Edited by Fudo Saiken, Jan 17 2017, 05:37 PM.
FUDO & SONS FIGHTING CO.
Fudo "Saikyō" Saiken • Captain • Saiken Silver Grand Master/Smith •
Beast Blood Pirates Bounty: 390,000,000 • SD Earned: 1032 • Beli: - • Location: Sky IslandsStrength:- Speed: - Stamina: - Accuracy: - Fortune: -
Fujin Saiken • Pirate • Thief/Martial Artist •
Bounty: 40,000,000• SD Earned: 210 • Beli: - • Location: Sky IslandsStrength:- Speed: - Stamina: - Accuracy: - Fortune: -
Gran Kin Umino-Kimono Saiken • Other • Smith/Martial Artist •
Threat: 0• SD Earned: 45 • Beli: - • Location: GLStrength:- Speed: - Stamina: - Accuracy: - Fortune: -
Cero Saiken • Other • Inventor/Marksman •
Threat: 0• SD Earned: 95 • Beli: - • Location: Cactus IslandStrength:- Speed: - Stamina: - Accuracy: - Fortune: -


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Like was stated, no discounts or reduced costs on effects. The lolgia dodge is the only real upgrade a Logia users get outside of cosmetic ones.

Though I would say that Moku entirely being, well made out of smoke would have the smokescreen-like effect as a freebie regardless with each activation. That includes freeforming it.

So much like how say, Mera and Hie get their respective elemental damage free of charge, Moku would be getting obscuring smoke clouds as its 'hidden' benefit. Not giving it that amount of leeway would be pretty dumb.
Edited by mockday, Jan 18 2017, 06:28 AM.
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FUDO & SONS FIGHTING CO.
Fudo "Saikyō" Saiken • Captain • Saiken Silver Grand Master/Smith •
Beast Blood Pirates Bounty: 390,000,000 • SD Earned: 1032 • Beli: - • Location: Sky IslandsStrength:- Speed: - Stamina: - Accuracy: - Fortune: -
Fujin Saiken • Pirate • Thief/Martial Artist •
Bounty: 40,000,000• SD Earned: 210 • Beli: - • Location: Sky IslandsStrength:- Speed: - Stamina: - Accuracy: - Fortune: -
Gran Kin Umino-Kimono Saiken • Other • Smith/Martial Artist •
Threat: 0• SD Earned: 45 • Beli: - • Location: GLStrength:- Speed: - Stamina: - Accuracy: - Fortune: -
Cero Saiken • Other • Inventor/Marksman •
Threat: 0• SD Earned: 95 • Beli: - • Location: Cactus IslandStrength:- Speed: - Stamina: - Accuracy: - Fortune: -


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