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| Tweet Topic Started: Sep 27 2015, 10:16 AM (391 Views) | |
| OnishiGhetto | Sep 27 2015, 10:16 AM Post #1 |
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Would it be possible to use Funky Body as an excuse to have a body that exists because of a DF Ability that's banned/restricted being used on it? Or is that a selective thing that only applies to a few people? |
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| Nxai | Sep 27 2015, 10:29 AM Post #2 |
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Personally, I don't see it being an impossible feat, I feel like it would be no'd more on the basis that it shouldn't be something you can spend a trait on than it being an impossibility mechanics wise |
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| Spirit | Sep 27 2015, 11:14 AM Post #3 |
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The one problem I see is that a lot of the banned/restricted DFs belong to high level NPCs so depending on your SD levels, you might not be able to interact with them, even in history. |
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| OnishiGhetto | Sep 27 2015, 11:18 AM Post #4 |
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And before it belonged to those NPC it belonged to another NPC etc. etc. Also why would SD restrict or limit how you react with someone? I think from a story telling standpoint how well known you are would be a bit more important than your SD. Everyone has to start from the bottom in their history, so it's not so much a problem to state you came across X and they used their DF ability on you within reason. I was mostly wondering would it be approved or denied on a play by play case, or is it just not allowed as apart of history? |
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| Darkhunter | Sep 27 2015, 11:27 AM Post #5 |
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Yeah it generally wasn't allowed previously. Though since Funky Body exists now the current administration may feel that this is perfectly allowable. |
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| Spirit | Sep 27 2015, 11:28 AM Post #6 |
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Because it might make your characters more important than others at the same SD level even if they did not but just meet a high SD NPC. Don't ask me why that is, but that would be the reasoning. Since Funky Body has to be taken at creation, it would have to be part of the history so I think it'll be on a case by case basis based on your SD. |
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| geomease | Sep 27 2015, 12:50 PM Post #7 |
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May i ask what you had in mind? Like were you thinking a shadow zombie? |
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| ♥ Bright | Sep 27 2015, 01:54 PM Post #8 |
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I think you also need to keep in mind that with most body-altering DFs we've seen, the effects disappear as soon as the current user is knocked unconscious or killed. Hobi and Kage are just two examples off the top of my head. |
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| OnishiGhetto | Sep 27 2015, 02:21 PM Post #9 |
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I'm referring to the ones that are on the more permanent style and actually have an effect on the character themselves. Kage and Hobi were both old variants of a trait that I'm not referring to as both of them had issues that would make them somewhat limited. I'm thinking more Age and Gender altering due to devil fruits.
That's awful reasoning. There are plenty of people who have more SD or less SD who are more important than others. There are people who have laughably low SD who are more important and have met and been affected by people with high SD. I don't think SD is the measurement of how important you are, what you do would be a more accurate thing. Specially considering how many high SD characters are content just having fun and doing their own thing. Would probably make more sense if those things were measured with Bounty, Threat, and Commendations which I always assumed measured how well known you were. If the reasoning was simply "No because it sets a standard that we'd have to allow for everyone" that's fine and was pretty much what I was trying to figure out. Otherwise it has to be done ICly I'd guess, but considering it is possible at worst it'd be restricted to an ICly thing, and at best it'd be allowed at the cost of a Trait. Either way is fine with me. Edited by OnishiGhetto, Sep 27 2015, 02:26 PM.
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| Darkhunter | Sep 27 2015, 04:17 PM Post #10 |
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Spirit isn't completely incorrect. Making aa new 500 SD character gives you a lot more options for how big of an impact and relevance they can have from he start compared to a 0 SD character. |
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| OnishiGhetto | Sep 27 2015, 05:49 PM Post #11 |
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Not really. What you do with the character matters more than how much SD the character has, you're talking about what's available for the character not how relevant they are. A 100 SD scrub can RP with a bunch of 600 SD big shots, and a 500 SD guy can sit around having tea parties. The impact and relevance of your character shouldn't be tied to your SD levels, otherwise it feels like certain characters are being pushed into positions they don't prefer. If you want to believe high SD makes you important go for it. But the way things should work, you'd assume a guy with next to no SD who makes a name for himself fucking shit up would be more well known than joe blow who sits on his SD fishing all day. And I have no idea what that has to do with the Funky Body trait usage I'm asking about. Also to edit in a note, that's YOU giving said character more relevance because of their SD value. That's not a character actually being more relevant. You seeing someone as being more important because of their SD values doesn't actually make them more important in terms of site canon, their character in question, or just about anything. Do most high SD characters want to be well known and relevant in all stages of things? Sure. Same as plenty of low SD characters. But there are plenty of high SD characters who just want to sit back and relax while telling their own story. Edited by OnishiGhetto, Sep 27 2015, 05:52 PM.
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| Hideo | Sep 27 2015, 06:12 PM Post #12 |
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I'm having trouble finding the thread but I believe in the WC topic where we talked about Funky Body this specific scenario came up and we decided against allowing it. I'll continue to search for it but for now your best bet would be to believe the answer is no. |
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| ♥ Tengu | Sep 27 2015, 06:17 PM Post #13 |
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Nah, pretty much the thing is that we don't want people regularly starting out with connections to top NPCs, like DF users, World Nobles, high ranked marines, ect. That isn't to say that starters haven't been approved with those connections before, but those pretty much slipped through the cracks. As much as we would like to give connections based on the merit of the writer, that also produces subjectivity, and makes starter character approval a more bias thing, with some people being allowed connections on starting, while others not being so lucky. There's also the thing of starter PCs being generally unremarkable, since things that would cause fame in a scope that is larger than a town or a small island. Relation or implied relation to notable NPCs works against this. However, scoops into new characters allows for a bit more freedom, as they have the representation of progress on this site, SD, while still having a blank slate. In order to better explain why they are more powerful figures than a starter, which may or may not include fame, they can have more elaborate backstories that include interactions with more high-end NPCs. The point is, no one starts off as an important or relevant figure before they earn their first SD. That isn't to say that people's importance is tied directly to SD, but since it is the site's form of tangible progress, it shouldn't come off as strange that people with a larger amount of SD tend to have a larger amount of IC fame. As for the original question, we currently have one character that was permanently affected by the age fruit, and one (maybe more?) that were temporarily effected by the hormone fruit. They are possible and should not require trait investment, but are based on entirely IC factors. I believe the last person to use the age fruit was RainingBlades, and the last one to use the hormone fruit was Zander, though I think the NPC died in his case. If you are interested in having a character effected by these fruits, I would talk to them or another narrator/cmod about the possibility of using them. I hope this clears things up. |
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| OnishiGhetto | Sep 27 2015, 06:34 PM Post #14 |
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Having a devil fruit used on you doesn't really constitute a connection, which is why I asked because the few scenario I've seen the characters in question aren't exactly defined by the interactions. If a scoop allows for this freedom that wouldn't be allowed at creation with no more spent on traits or anything except having more SD, then I hope you're lying. Because I'd hate to think your character is defined by their SD instead of their actual character. Because scooping into a new character even with a high SD value, would literally mean you're starting off as either important or relevant entirely based on your SD and not on the character. For someone who takes the generic Threat, Bounty, or Rank conversion thing that makes sense to a degree. But it seems more like a case by case situation depending on who's involved. I'm going to go with Hideo on this one though. Thanks for the assistance. |
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| ♥ Tengu | Sep 27 2015, 07:17 PM Post #15 |
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Yeah, that first bit was more concerning the issue of scooped characters having more freedom to interact with big NPCs in the past, not having new characters be able to be altered by them. Without the event happening in an SL, I would not approve of a character living with the effects of DF users, regardless of SD. But yes, a person with 200 SD is more likely to be approved as the on-the-run kid of a World Noble who wished to renounce his title than a person with 0 SD. This isn't to say that I endorse that or really have an opinion on the matter, but that's the truth of the matter. SD is representing that progress, and because a scooped character has no progress in story lines, they are able to manufacture progress on par with the progress of their previous scoop. |
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