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Lets talk about what is allowed in Myth Zoans
Topic Started: Dec 8 2014, 02:43 PM (754 Views)
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Hydra Myth zoan
>Multiple heads with sharp teeth that can spit and breathe poisonous breath
>insane healing capabilities
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Khepri
>Scaling armor
>Ability to heal and cure anything and everything
>can heal self
>can heal others
>flight
>telekenetic use of it's own fire
>multiple limbs

Phoenix
>can only heal self
>healing logia basically
>talons and a beak
>flight

why are hydra and khepri allowed but not phoenix?
Edited by Nobody, Dec 8 2014, 03:09 PM.
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I wasn't around for early mzoan days, but really the exclusion of Phoenix was as much the staff trying to get away from canon mzoans as it was anything else.

Yes, Khepri and Hydra are quite impressive.
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From what I understand when choosing the MZoans for the site it was a goal to avoid "overused concepts". Basically the pheonix is just a more generic idea and that's likely the reason we decided to pass over it.

I can't say for sure though, there may be more specific reasons involved.
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If flight is worth a trait does that mean khepri would be t2 wihout it? Lol.
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Dec 8 2014, 03:09 PM
If flight is worth a trait does that mean khepri would be t2 wihout it? Lol.
i can't have duck zoan because flight costs a trait
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Does that also explain why the thunder bird (it's counterpart) was allowed aswell?
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Thunderbird doesn't heal, and the only way it's really similar to the Phoenix mzoan is that they're both birds. The ability sets are completely different.
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Khepri healing: Upon contact with Khepri's flames, any poison debuffs of a rank lower than the user's transformation tech rank will be nullified, cuts, bruises, and other injuries will vanish over one post, and limbs lost recently can be reattached. New limbs cannot be generated, however.

Hydra Healing:
Regeneration functions passively in any zoan or hybrid form, taking longer amounts of time to heal more serious injuries. (Minor cuts and bruises = 1 post, Large wounds or bruised bones = 2 posts, deep wounds, minor organ damage, broken bones =3 posts, Lost limbs, destroyed organs, missing chunks of body = 4 posts). The user is also immune to poison techniques.

Phoenix healing:
The user's regenerates from all wounds at bullet speed (Marco's regeneration literally kept up with Kizaru's lasers), as if they were completely dodging them like a logia, and when hit with haki, the injuries only stick long enough for the hit to end and then regenerates relatively instantly too.

If you find Hydra to be insane, Phoenix should be right out of this world.
Edited by Franky, Dec 8 2014, 04:08 PM.
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The ability to heal any wound instantly >>>>>> healing over time
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why are franky and geo repeating what i already said

the problem is that is all phoenix has besides a beak and a talon to fight with

why are myth zoans made with multi purpose combat abilities in addition to near phoenix like healing
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Phoenix can only be beaten really by seastone which is a problem.

Also yes we don't really want to use canon or too mainstream mzoans.
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Dec 8 2014, 05:41 PM
Phoenix can only be beaten really by seastone which is a problem.

Also yes we don't really want to use canon or too mainstream mzoans.
detaching limbs with haki wouldn't work why?
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Dec 8 2014, 05:53 PM
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Dec 8 2014, 05:41 PM
Phoenix can only be beaten really by seastone which is a problem.

Also yes we don't really want to use canon or too mainstream mzoans.
detaching limbs with haki wouldn't work why?
The assumption is the phoenix'll just regenerate once the haki is not touching it anymore.
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Phoenix had holes blow all through it including the head with kizaru's lasers. And it would be strange he didn't use haki on an opponent he should have taken seriously like he normally does with criminals. The wounds were all headed instantly. His healing is so great he uses himself as a meat shield all the time to block attacks since he recives as fast as they destroy him.
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Dec 8 2014, 03:56 PM
Thunderbird doesn't heal, and the only way it's really similar to the Phoenix mzoan is that they're both birds. The ability sets are completely different.
Yes, your right, they are both birds.

So let me get this straight, you all allowed a thunder bird mzoan (colour) to be on the site, lets say when he reaches 128 rank, he can finally disintegrate and create thunder storms at will (cyclones etc)? (basically can already) While the phoenix is just as powerful and can go supernova?

Long story short, their the same; both gigantic elemental avians that have different abilities which resignates with their element.

This can explain why the (average) dragon mzoan hasn't been thought of too because it's mainstream right?
Edited by Cloud Niner, Dec 8 2014, 08:24 PM.
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