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Upgrading DF
Topic Started: Jan 15 2013, 06:53 PM (554 Views)
TGIFlash
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I realize that the 4,8,14,28,44 scale seems to be the benchmark for when 'new things become possible' as far as ultimately becoming progressively more superhuman. However, as common knowledge suggests, Devil Fruit already have superhuman qualities. So what is a reasonable scale in which to assume that a fruit abilities become more 'super' in nature than it already is.

Is this even a question that can be accurately answered? Or is it one of those "Case by case" basis sort of things.

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Its more a case by case for what it allows you to do but it basically alows you to freeform more or open up new options to you with the fruit. It still goes by the regular benchmarks though.
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So the Knock Knock Fruit makes me into a tree man. Say I wanted to...
produce fruit that when eaten gives certain buffs (normal buffs, not like cooks or nothing). It isn't necessarily in the fruit's description, but Tree CAN make fruit!

So what stage would you say that I could... grow fruit from my hair as part of the fruits description. Of course every individual buffing fruit would be it's own technique, but that's just an example.

Long story short: Is making a Fruit produce something that it's theme DOES produce, too much of a stretch rank wise?
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No, r8-14 in my opinion
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i'd say no really you wouldnt' be able to do that
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So specifically with the Tree fruit, I wouldn't be able to produce something that the DF theme would reasonably be able to produce (under normal circumstances at that)?
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Trees don't naturally make "Buffing" fruits. They produce regular fruits which I don't see a problem with. But making fruits that buff seems ridiculous and out of the theme of the fruit.
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Ohh okay, but I could still make fruits between 8-14, without buffing. Correct?
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No buffing? Super nutrition Zander. It doesn't seem out of place with the theme. It is a tree, if it produces magic fruit I wouldn't see it as too farfetched as for fruits without buffing I'd go with 8, as it is a new ability, but would mostly be considered flavor until used properly
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Producing fruits isn't really part of its powers otherwise it'd overlap somewhat with the mote mote no mi. It isn't a grow fruit so much as your substance is like a tree. If you wanted a real answer try Speak he'd give you an official yes or no since i'm just a meanie.
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Mote can grow things, it wouldn't overlap with mote as mote can't produce fruit it can simply grow a fruit if a seed is present.
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Not all trees produce fruit. You're not an omni-tree man. The theme of the fruit was more like an evergreen or an oak than a pear or peach tree. Following your analogy, you'd be losing your hair or something on winter islands. Don't suggest acorns or pinecones or whater now, your body is a tree in the same sense that Supa-User's body is a sword. They're not literally a sword or tree, their body acts as one through demon magic.

Tree fruit is a generic tree that stays the same through all seasons. It's not meant to be able to do this.
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Haha, actually Smiley I am in the process of making different version of appearances of my character for each 'season' of island as we speak...

Okay, so your point about not all trees bearing fruit is very valid.

But Sap, Resin, Pollen, Seeds... are all by products that trees can produce. So can I?

I realize i may be thinking outside of the box, but using the classic example, Luffy's Gear 2nd and 3rd were outside of the box uses of Rubber. It's within the realm of the theme, and while Supa, based on swords, is an object that only has a few mentionable qualities (cutting, steel), Trees DO have qualities that allow them to produce some materials by their very definition, and do so in a way that is much more reasonable then say, the Wax fruit which is based on a candle, but somehow does burn away the user as they create wax.

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I'm still slamming down a no on this one. It really doesn't go with the intent of the fruit when it was created.
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Is there any other way that you could explain why that isn't permissible than that it doesn't go with the 'intent of the fruit'? I'm confused as to why a fruit themed off of trees wouldn't be able to do something that trees do. I yield that i'm not an 'omni-tree', but I don't understand why this isn't in the realm of possibility for a a Tree Human, when all trees have these properties/by-products. It seems very much the intent of the fruit. If I tried to make a custom DF whose intent was to create sap and pollen etc., like a plant, I would immediately be denied on the basis that it would overlap with the Tree Fruit.

The Logic is there, it goes smoothly with the theme, it isn't breaking any One Piece boundaries, so why are you adamant on saying no? It may seem original, but I would think I would be praised for some creativity.

For the record, I'm not trying to be rude, aggressive or condescending. I'm just trying to understand where our thought processes differ, and where perhaps my understanding is different than that of the standards of the site.
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