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Split personalities, robot crewmen and AI; It's Super Awesome
Topic Started: May 11 2012, 09:49 AM (358 Views)
Oceonax
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I have a couple of suggestions and questions, but let's start with this:

I've done my research on the subject and I just need to confirm whether split personalities are allowed. What I have in mind gives no benefits for either personality and may have a relatively uncontrollable trigger for switching, such as time based. It would be purely for fun and provide no advantages, the only things to gain being someone to talk to and insanity. From what I've seen split personalities should be allowed so long as you can't switch to gain an advantage in the particular situation, so this should be okay.

The next thing on my list is the npc crew members you can buy to fill up a ship and do misc jobs. The only things specified are that they drop like flies and have an upkeep each SL, so I was wondering if you could change them so long as these things are kept the same. For example, could they be crude, clunky robots that have are no different from normal hired crew than the fact that they lack a consciousness. They would still drop like flies and still require upkeep, but purely for aesthetic purposes they are robots.

This last idea is linked to the robot crew and is harder to do without it, but not impossible. I was wondering if Artificial Intelligence was allowed, but hear me out before you say that it's way too advanced etc etc. As with my other ideas, what I have in mind is aesthetical and doesn't provide any advantages. If the robots are allowed then I was thinking of having them all linked wirelessly and therefore function under an AI, which would make a sort of statless npc for interaction with.

Those are my ideas, try not to steal them too much.
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no split personalities pretty much, Hainen has hinted that there is a way to do it but i'm pretty sure it requires a magic lamp and a genie.

no cause robots are like cyborgs and yeah, don't want to get into that territory because then they wouldn't exactly be mooks.

Aritifical intelligence is not allowed by pcs at all from what i've heard.
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Why no split personalities? I don't see why not if you get no bonus.

So long as they still drop like flies, does it matter? They could be made out of foil or something.
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How exactly is a normal person an equal mook to a robot person who's covered in a metal alloy. You need 40 strength to beat through iron armour and that's the lowest possible class. I don't consider that like flies.

The switch thing isn't about gaining an advantage so much. I think I'm the only one who actually got that Hainen quote:
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When you make the app, that is the criteria you must follow. Generally for any kind of mental condition. however, the first line is a pretty broad description. You always have an advantage if you can flip a personality in a certain situation to deal with it differently.

Tbh, I'm pretty sure I got a bipolar Character. Jack may not have started like it but he sure as hell developed into it.
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If a character was truly bipolar, they wouldn't have a time limit or anything for one personality; they would just switch randomly and spontaneously. So there's no real way to rp it out honestly with some rules or order, which brings it all back to possibly giving you a reason to make a situation better for your character. Plus you could try and possibly reason out of it saying "the events of this situation would have caused the character to change personalities regardless of whether the situation would get better or worse."

What dark said about AI and what ice said about tier strengths regarding robot crewmen. I also personally think it to be absurd to say "can i do whatever i want as long as they dropped like flies; using that logic, i could have alien crew members or something.

Just my two cents though
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Bipolarlity is pretty flyable. It's just mood swings between depression and maniacal episodes. And honestly when you water it down to it, it's just extreme reactions to mood swings.

This is an rp setting and actually staying in character is sometimes impossible because if a roleplayer drops out you have to somehow deal with it. In the end, every single character on the site has a split personality at some point or another to make a story work. Personally, I just winged it and went along with the bipolar idea to try and keep consistent from then on.

Consistency through an inconsistent personality. Go figure.
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In regards to the Hainen quote, that is exactly what I suggested it be either time based or something else uncontrollable. For example, if the switch were time based then you would not be able to switch at will in order to gain an advantage in a situation. It could be that one personality is dominant during the day and one at night, therefore making it more inconvenient than convenient.
In order to stop interaction with the other personality and limit interaction to other players or npc's, you would simply apply an uncontrollable switch (such as time) and then make it so that the two personalities cannot interact in their head. As I've already mentioned, one would be active in the day while the other is sleeping and vice versa for the night.

I've pretty much given up on the robots and AI now. When RainingBlades said that using my logic aliens would work as crewmen I understood the faults in my idea.
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10 points for Icy.

Hainen's quote had/has nothing to do with what you're suggesting. It doesn't regard split personalities in the sense you're asking, his was meant to be a directive towards more 'mental illness' types. What you're asking for is two entirely conflicting personalities, basically two characters inhabiting a single body for roleplay purposes.

Ignoring that your current setup somehow voids both sides of sleep and thus doesn't do much without stamina. It seems as if you want two separate entities in a single body. Which I'm sure isn't allowed as Dark said. I'm 300% sure Hainen said that comes down to modmin opinion on the matter, which two have already given their answer in this thread. The reasoning for that is simply it's more trouble than it's worth.

Bipolar is possible, schizophrenia is possible if done correctly, possibly even Split Personalities are available when done properly and well enough that all the moderators overlooking a topic agree to it and it meets the forementioned requirements. But at the moment you want 'Split Personalities' in the sense that they aren't one in the same at all. The mention of a 'dominant' personality alone is a pretty big sign it's a no.

What's allowed is a person with a hard to follow personality. Bipolar? Sure. Slightly crazy and struggling with their madness? Of course. Two personalities inhabiting a single body? Not really. Well, there's a chance it was allowed when I wasn't looking thus making the whole "Ghost Possession" thing viable ICly. But to my knowledge 'Split Personalities' have been a no when based on the theme of two entirely separate entities who don't interact with one another and function during separate times inhabiting a single body.
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They were so supportive at the time, but since quitting I haven't seen them even once.
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