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Let's start a newspaper; Suggestion
Topic Started: Feb 2 2012, 01:07 PM (1,874 Views)
Chizzah
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No problem. Point is we'll write about any sl that's interesting. Also if you want us to write an article about your SL you can just PM us a summary and we'll get on it if it's news worthy. :)
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OnishiGhetto
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I'm confused. Of the 5 members of late that have active characters in this topic, none of you attempt to keep up with your Bounties, Ranks, and Threat levels by posting in the proper titles in which order can be kept on the site.

If you can't simply maintain the amount of order required to keep things organized from the site canon perspective, why or how would you be expected to do a newspaper right which requires actual order on a grand scale?

No. It doesn't work like that Nada. "If an SL is graded now, than it happened now." See, no. Site canon can't work like that as we design our own timelines in a sense. To a degree most is handled like that, but you can't force anyone to be on your timeline or assume they are. And that's even With having interacted with them. It's the RP'ers choice to decide the progression of their own time.

Again, most of the points you've pointed out are points that you've already fallen short and flat on.

  • And for sl's spanning a few months or years as in that there is a time skip or another such as "three days later" or "two months later" or something along those lines then we'll use the time after the time skip for the most up to date part of the article.

  • As for sl's that span a year or so such as that 1000 post sl, than we'll assume the events all happened consecutively rather than over the course of a year unless specified in the sl. For example if an sl takes a year because of the posting speed but in canon only lasts a few days, then we'll go for the few days.

  • As for the whole misinformation thing, we'll be focusing on sl's from here on out so we'll be able to stay up to date with the sites canon because we'll be making articles as sl's are produced.


For the first point you've proven you don't seem to get how timeskips work here or in general. They don't take place "ICly" In a sense. They're handled like the Strawhats timeskip. The events leading up to it happens, SL ends, next SL starts with a scooped variant of the same character or simply an older character. The time skips are technically as erratic as the time progression of One Piece itself up until the actual timeskip.

Second point. You can't assume that. You're meant to read an SL to understand how much time has been passed. Most, wait my bad, all SL cover the amount of time passed in the midst of it. Some go into great detail, some leave hints. The problem with not half assing a grading is that you actually keep track of such details. 'Assuming' is what breeds 'misinformation' better you read the SL in depth, or simply don't bother trying to add it into your newspaper.

As for the last one. How does that stop misinformation? You've managed to miss the point of most of your own points, which is my point when it comes to misinformation. Misinformation isn't just "So we missed some things." It's also simply "You missed the point." It'd be like having someone handle the topic of "Brighteyes Destroys Osula." But guess what? How the hell does that even work? Short of Brighteyes himself telling the story, there's no possible way for the events to get out.

Do your characters sit down for interviews? Does one of you have a PC or NPC reporter? Just because events happened doesn't mean they make it into the newspaper, based on the idea that there is a such thing as 'The Greatest Story Never Told'. When you try and throw your own 'newspaper' into things based on "I wanna" you tend to forget the basics, like... "Who the hell in canon is writing this? And if it's good enough to warrant coverage... why isn't like... someone on top of it?"

There's a reason why in canon events were only brought to light when the marines were involved. Because otherwise, who'd care or how would the information get out? And it'll be somewhat hard and painful to watch SL shoehorn in more "Stupid and poorly trained" Marines into their SL just to give justification to getting published.

You can't avoid bias. So you made a topic about a crew you've never heard of? Good for you. Are you saying the best way to get the best coverage of a topic is to avoid bias and write about things you have no actual information about? That's... pretty bad. I have no wit to throw at that. That's just really bad. I think I'm done actually even trying to think of how "Me taking a random crew that I know nothing about and doing an article on them." Can even work. Either you know someone in that crew personally, or you just basically took a shot in the dark based on one SL. Either way, somethings bound to be wrong there.

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The way i see it, is as long as we don't touch the past with the newspaper, and only focus on present and future site canon and sl's than there shouldn't be a problem.


I'm going to start pretending I didn't see that now. Because having an established past and backstory doesn't mean anything apparently, so long as we focus on the present and future 'site canon (Which doesn't technically exist on a single timeline and is made up of Past events + Present) There shouldn't be a problem.

It's not like the past is what makes these character's who they are and provide them with any form of actual 'goals' 'objectives' or those silly little 'dreams'. Who needs to establish a character's history and past in order to truly understand and know the character?

Wait. My bad. Everyone does.

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But I believe misinformation is better then no information at all.


You're free to believe that. As I believe many people in this topic support you. I don't. At all. Never will.

As a matter of fact, I'm confused as to why any of you would feel that way. It's like spreading things around that aren't true, aren't given the proper coverage they should, or are simply misleading. It's like asking.

"Can I jump off a feather at rank 4?" And the moment you say yes I try to make a wild mass connection that isn't entirely accurate. Such as "That means I can throw a feather into the sky and jump off of it at rank 4!" Confused? Yeah, I would be too. As the idea is misleading to begin with and covered poorly.

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And as for interviews, why would a marine newspaper interview powerful pirates? in fact when would a news reporter even get the chance to track down these powerful men and women simply for an interview? As far as i can tell this is meant to be an IC newspaper owned by the world government, so there will be bias and there will be manipulation of the facts so that it is in the favor of the marines.


Marines work for the WG. So if the Marines aren't publishing it, the WG sure as hell ain't. The WG wouldn't publish anything that makes them look bad. As proven by the fact that they've tried to cover up every mistake they've made and every failure they've had. They wouldn't even admit to something as major as their own men fucking up on a global scale to save the people they're suppose to protect. Why would they pay attention to the world and announce they're failures to the world now?

Best bet if you're serious make a reporter PC to actually cover the events and as such have them from his perspective. That'd be the logical and accurate thing to do.
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This reminds me of when King Arthur, Donkey Kong, and a group of otter-llama hybrids held an intervention to tell me I needed to stop taking LSD.

They were so supportive at the time, but since quitting I haven't seen them even once.
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Chizzah
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Or we can pretend we have PC reporters in our mind. Have them enter SLs we would like to write about in our own imagination. And you can feel at each because you can simply take our word that we're really doing it that way.

Lol dude you need to calm down man; seriously chill. Let us try this out and see what the majority think. If they don't like it we can try again, and again, and again until they eventually do or we give up. I'm not giving up though. Ever.
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Nad the Redhead
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Supa, your last point, that's what we're doing. Congratulations you guessed right! Have a cookie. I have a feeling actually producing the newspaper will be easier than arguing with you.
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OnishiGhetto
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"Pretend we have PC reporters" Only works if PC reporters made sense. Which they don't. Having one means you have someone willing to stop and interview dangerous individuals. Even dumber, you'd need characters who are dumb enough to stop for an interview.

I am calm. You need to wise-up.

If you noticed my last point is how things aren't to be done, based on the previous points I threw out. Such as "How would any of this get out?" In a sense. Your character has to stop for an interview.

GG. Your guy who did the interview is now in trouble for taking time to interview a pirate on the grounds that "He seemed interesting." Your pirate is now going to be found due to sheer stupidity, and the WG isn't going to let the paper be published.

But wait, you say it's a PC doing this? Well, good luck having a PC interact with all these people using the logic of "Site Canon" based on the idea that he has to find, meet, and interact with these people in order to publish the story.

There's a chance you can have multiple NPC's, but ICly if you're trying to be logical, it wouldn't last based on my previous statement. Congrats, you've both missed the point again. The objective is to do things 'accurately' the problems with accuracy with PC's is people want the easy way out, the problem with NPC's is that people assume they're to be handled as if you're the SH crew.

Having an NPC newspaper writer = DOA, having a PC newspaper writer means = Having to actually interact.

The only mildly intelligent thing I've seen on this topic was Hainen joking about Brighteyes publishing his own story. Which makes sense considering he's a Yonkou. The WG doesn't mess with him, and he was actually there. As silly as it might have seemed. That works on all levels.

You guys basically go "Let's have stories about our pirates." Ignoring that at least one Smoker-est marine would go "Well, they left from X, going to Y. So that means we can catch them on Y and kill them."
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Damn Son
 
This reminds me of when King Arthur, Donkey Kong, and a group of otter-llama hybrids held an intervention to tell me I needed to stop taking LSD.

They were so supportive at the time, but since quitting I haven't seen them even once.
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Masa
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Chizzah and Nad, these are all the problems we've had before. Supa has got a point. It's best to take a while to think about how you can work out these problems. We couldon't do it, but maybe it's possible somehow.

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And to confirm one of Supa's point, I will now give you a reality check.

Because hella lot of RL issues have been kicking me in the ass, I have to pull out. I'm sorry.
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Rasen
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This may look backstabbing much?

But really, I cannot afford to waste any more time of my life on something as extra as this. I'm just ruling out unimportant priorities in my list. This newspaper thing is unfortunately on the top of unimportance (as how most other people had it as well).

I really do apologize for such an inconvenience.
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Write up an article about how sexy Caelum is.
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There aml.

We should all remember this is the suggestions and questions area and remember that random comments should be kept to an absolute minimum unless they're here to assist or inform the topic at hand.
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Damn Son
 
This reminds me of when King Arthur, Donkey Kong, and a group of otter-llama hybrids held an intervention to tell me I needed to stop taking LSD.

They were so supportive at the time, but since quitting I haven't seen them even once.
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Chizzah
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That's fine, Rasen. I completely understand.

Anyway, Supa. I remember joking about interviewing pirates but never seriously mentioning that we would.

So let me clear things up.

We will write articles about criminal activities. An example of this would be a pirate crew annihilating a village. What will happen from this point forward? The reporters/marines will show up and interview either survivors or the reporters will interview the marines about what occurred. So I don't see any problem in that. Do you?

Also I'm thinking of putting in an OOC section. What this section will cover is interviewing the members and have them talk about themselves and their characters. I also see no problem with that. Do you?
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The OOC section is actually something strange to me. An IC newspaper having an OOC section... Whatever its your goal. I have a feeling it won't work now... Damn Supa is persuasive
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Chizzah
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Ai...

Let's just see what happens lol
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