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Let's start a newspaper; Suggestion
Topic Started: Feb 2 2012, 01:07 PM (1,876 Views)
Nad the Redhead
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Right, well Chizzah, you're the boss, set up the topic and we can start discussing possibilties for stories and how we'll organise all this mallarchy
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Chizzah
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Not the boss. We're partners. :)

Anyway I'll get that up asap! :D
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Rasen
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Keep an updated look at the Process Pending. That'll get everything organized when you want someone to take on a job.

Since my SL is up for pending, I can make a pretty easy article on that topic.
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Hey, I like your Idea as I sometimes think of reading an SL or two to find more about the current situation, but always loose intrest. I am rooting for ya.

Why I am here is to give ideas for the name. It should be something related to IC like:
- Sea Times
- Islands Day
- The Free Sailor
Also it could be seen from the Goverment side and turn events to the WG side: - Marine Adventures or Marine Campaigns
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Chizzah
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That'll be appreciated, Rasen. Here's the link to the discussion thread.

And thanks for the support, Al. In fact it will lean more towards the WG and Navy. Yuan just came up with a cool name The Maritime Post. It actually means something like its about some navy law of some kind. Thanks again. :)
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K SD reward will never ever happen

That aside, this is a nice idea that has been tried before and failed due to lack of motivation primarily since its hard work with nothing really to gain from it on a personal level.

However good luck
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Thanks, Dark. :)

I'm sure with the team we have and the support of the community we can make it happen.
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I give ya the best of luck guys.

It'll be cool if it works. :)
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Thanks, Masa!!! :)
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SupaDailyNews

The truth behind the Aokuchi incident
By SupaNewsGai
Recently there's been a huge plague of events taking place in the Blues that have left many men and women in the world plagued. A sudden surge in pirate activity in a long since deceased age. With no actual reason as to why this is happening, I your SupaNewsGai, turned to the streets to get some information about the world at large.

But wait. As it turns out most of the people at large don't actually care about the events around them that don't pertain to themselves. As a matter of fact without an admin or moderator to oversee every event that would be placed into the newspaper, which would be canon, it's impossible to control the flow of information.

Many of you may ask why. I ask why not. As it turns out, considering mods and admin are suppose to determine what's canon and what's not via grading and such, it'd be impossible for a member to accurately do a newspaper without their assistance.

But wait, I know you're asking, wouldn't it be possible to send in an article/newspaper and simply have a moderator read over it to determine what's ok and what's not? Sure I tell ya. But as it turns out, having an ACCURATE canon newspaper requires that you KNOW THE SITE CANON DAMN WELL.

The truth about Newspaper's
By SupaNewsGai

Someone was bound to say, "Supa you sure act like you know everything. Why is that?" It's because I have a brain I'd tell them. Even if we ignore the fact that the newspaper has to be handled as it would in canon and thus only a mod could handle it. Let's assume members do handle it.

You need members to actively report in their sl and give out their events without overplaying themselves or milking their egos. "Maybe it'll work." You say? I say it won't. My evidence? Bounty Topic, Threat Topic, Marine rank topic, devil fruit topic. All of which work on the same idea on a much smaller level. All of which have basically fallen on their face.

"But wait? Didn't we have roughly 3 newspaper topics before?" People with brains are asking? Why yes. Yes we did. If someone had bothered to check those topics prior to throwing out a suggestion or question this might have been avoided. I mean it's one thing for mods and members to give their endorsement, it's another for them to not properly take into account what that endorsement means.

With the necessity of members informing their events, we'd also need someone who can accurately take the time out to write it in newspaper form. "But wait, can't anyone do that?" I'm sure you're asking yourselves. To which I say "No." There is no witty comeback to that. I'm not going to sugar coat this because most of you aren't reading anymore. But there is a proper format required to doing a newspaper article.

Honestly I know a handfull of people who can handle such a thing accurately without it turning into "Zomg mai careter ded dis ding n nwow hi epix." But even if we did give people the benefit of a doubt then what?

None of you are actually informed enough to do anything accurately
By SupaNewsGai

There's a reason why only certain people become mods. Sure, It's possible that members tell the story of their characters and their sl. By all means they should. But the issue with a newspaper is simply that it's not canon unless an admin/moderator looks over it and accepts it as such.

Wait. Now that you mention it... the title of this article explains why that makes no sense. You'd be requiring mods who barely have time to stretch their time thinner on a newspaper which technically is in a canon that cannot be established on a single timeline.

Assume for a second all the scooped characters are still in our canon, which you'd somewhat need to do for a newspaper based on this principle

[Scooped PC+ Nonscooped PC = Former Crew
Events of Former Crew + Scooped PC = Lost events
Events of Former Crew + Nonscooped PC = Active canon events
Past events from scooped character = Still canon and thus worthy of the newspaper]

But wait... using that logic that would mean in this universe for there to be a newspaper there would need to be some form of order that actually pays attention.

The reason? Because a character is scooped doesn't mean they're gone. Samba? Technically she's still alive in the world canon until Titan allows someone to kill her off or gives the ok. Sure, she technically can't progress or advance past what she is. But with that being an established part of site canon, it's something that can't be erased.

But wait... what about scoops that involve devil fruit?

Who the fuck cares? Newspaper's don't. God knows having a newspaper would require that you actually pay attention to site events, canon, scoops, major events from scoops, major events from older topics, and devil fruits. But what happens when people realize that like 5 characters with the same devil fruits ruined 12 separate islands? Nothing. Because technically if a newspaper were to exist and all events were tracked in either IC or OOC a mod or admin [Hound for you older people] Would technically have to take note.

Why? Because getting your information thrown into a newspaper is one of the signs that you've fucked up. Every event in the newspaper would have to be major, based on intense selective screening process of "I read this topic or I was involved in it." And as such the pirates involved would be top targets for bounty hunters or marines or other pirates.

I direct you to the original article. "The truth behind the Aokuchi incident" Why was it named as such? Because. As much as people want to go "ICE COLD DISCORD ES EMPORTANT" Aokuchi was leveled by Timbo. Thus making Ice Cold Discord important in the moment, but in terms of the overall canon? These things have happened before and will happen again but technically their impact would linger... for like ever.

A Yonkou levels the lawless wasteland of Osula? Shit goes to high alert because the riff raff that hung out there is now on the loose. Pirate activity gets a huge 'No No' and the WG is on it's toes. - That doesn't work because it requires mods to be damn active and on the look out for stupid stuff.

But hey, chances are you stopped reading this or will try and dsicard this with simply "We can still try." Which, by all means you can. But you only should if you feel as if you have the ability to handle the issues I've pointed out. I mean, it's easy to have an idea. To have a good idea? Not so much. To have a good workable idea? Even harder. To have a good workable idea that someone else hasn't had? Near Impossible. To have a good workable idea that someone else hasn't had and follow through with it? Might as well try walking on water. To have a good workable idea that someone else hasn't had, follow through with it, and answer and respond back when given constructive criticism without turning into a child or troll and simply saying "Oh Well" And brushing it off? Or responding like you lack the ability to speak like an adult? And simply having the will to accept when you can't have things your way and knowing when to hold em' and knowing when to fold em'? Might as well wish for a unicorn flavored ice cream cone made of Gnome meat.
Edited by OnishiGhetto, Feb 3 2012, 11:19 PM.
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This reminds me of when King Arthur, Donkey Kong, and a group of otter-llama hybrids held an intervention to tell me I needed to stop taking LSD.

They were so supportive at the time, but since quitting I haven't seen them even once.
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Was my post deleted, wow. Sorry for trying to point out, that I attempted this twice, and failed. Lets stir this new guy up and hope he makes a legit news paper all by himself, when those of us who have attempted it know its an assload of hard work.

Man, hopefully people read Supa's post and let this die. But there will probably be a few more pages, of c'mon guys we can do this.
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Chizzah
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Guys, relax. Chill. Cool down.

I'm sorry that this newspaper bothers you so much. But I've made my mind up that I'm going to make it work. The newspaper already has some great people working on it. If we're happy doing this why do you guys seem so angry about it? Did you get beaten with a newspaper when you were younger (here's the childish statement you mention Supa) lol.

I'm not a reporter. I'm not sure if anyone here is. Doesn't mean we can't try doing something we're not, right? We're playing at being pirates, bounty hunters and marines. Why not reporter?

I get we probably can't write stuff like a real newspaper etc etc etc. I read your whole "article" SuperSmartDood. You mentioned that people probably stopped reading that thing a few times, right?

Well regardless of if people actually read our non-canon paper is up to them. Obviously we want people to read it but we can't force you. So why be against it if you can just ignore it?

We're going to try anyway (the other cliché you mention) lol

With that being said if the staff is against the idea then we'll have no choice but to stop. Since they've given the go ahead that means we're all good. So stop worrying about it buddies.
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Newspaper doesn't bother me. Misinformation and an attempt to spread it does. One of the worst things a site can have is poor information spreading due to people not knowing what they're talking about.

Again, the idea is that we're (People who are actually serious about a newspaper) be smart enough to know what it would include. The issue with the people involved is that you have no idea what you're doing.

As far as any newspaper would go. All we'd get is "Let's interview the top sd characters" Out of which about 3 have actually effected site canon in major ways. Meaning your entire 'newspaper' would either be focused on your characters, your friends characters, or simply 'well known' characters. Not important characters as they should be.

I mentioned people have stopped reading Once. Way to go Free Press.

The thing you're not getting is that the newspaper serves no purpose except to either misinform or to milk your own egos.

You can try it, by all means. This isn't a "If the staff tells us to stop we'll stop" ordeal. Because the staff doesn't really care if you try and fail.

I do though, if you try and fail you spread misinformation and give representation to the site canon that isn't required. So here's what's going to happen.

You're going to write your article, which you've agreed to. I'm going to slash it to ribbons with that whole 'logic' thing in the most professional mannerism possible. I'd like to believe I'm informed enough to actually know what I'm talking about. I wrote that piece to inform, simply going "Yeah well w.e" Doesn't exactly work. At all.

This is in the suggestions forum for a reason. I suggest you give up as you can't exactly come up with any actual 'points' or 'reasons' as to how you could, can, or would carry out an article that could be accurately portraited by a newspaper in canon without it overlapping. I question why you would if you know what you're doing isn't going to help, inform, or actually do anything but throw out misleading information into 'How cool you think these few things are'.

We have Titan's retirement home for people who want to just talk about random topics that have no actual impact on canon and are about as informative as someone looking over like a page or two of an SL and drawing judgement.

And heads up. I'm just saying. Considering I was the first person to notice Brighteyes had a sword, and I jumped in when the topic was on page 3. I'm going to go out on a limb and say the attention to detail required to make a newspaper isn't something many people have.

I'm not saying you 'have' to stop. I'm simply saying no one involved seems to have the skill sets necessary to do it right.
Edited by OnishiGhetto, Feb 5 2012, 09:24 AM.
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This reminds me of when King Arthur, Donkey Kong, and a group of otter-llama hybrids held an intervention to tell me I needed to stop taking LSD.

They were so supportive at the time, but since quitting I haven't seen them even once.
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I'm not seeing the problem here, if we start the newspaper form this point in time and only do articles on sl's that happen from here on out, yeah a large part of the past of this site's canon will be completely ignored but a newspaper is supposed to be about current events, we'll use the timeline of the site as a timeline for the canon, so if the sl is graded NOW then it happened NOW.

And for sl's spanning a few months or years as in that there is a time skip or another such as "three days later" or "two months later" or something along those lines then we'll use the time after the time skip for the most up to date part of the article.

As for sl's that span a year or so such as that 1000 post sl, than we'll assume the events all happened consecutively rather than over the course of a year unless specified in the sl. For example if an sl takes a year because of the posting speed but in canon only lasts a few days, then we'll go for the few days.

As for the whole misinformation thing, we'll be focusing on sl's from here on out so we'll be able to stay up to date with the sites canon because we'll be making articles as sl's are produced.

Also another thing, to prevent bias in which we're just promoting our own characters, and not involving others, we'll be report on all sl's that get graded from here on out as long as we have the manpower and the people have the enthusiasm to do so. I just made an article for the yet to be published newspaper that involves a crew i've never even heard of and has nothing to do with me.

As for the whole attention to details thing, to be honest if one of the sites barely known Yonkous turns up in someones Sl that we are writing an article for we'll simply say what we can tell from that sl about the yonkou.

And as for interviews, why would a marine newspaper interview powerful pirates? in fact when would a news reporter even get the chance to track down these powerful men and women simply for an interview? As far as i can tell this is meant to be an IC newspaper owned by the world government, so there will be bias and there will be manipulation of the facts so that it is in the favor of the marines.

The way i see it, is as long as we don't touch the past with the newspaper, and only focus on present and future site canon and sl's than there shouldn't be a problem.
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I see where Supa is going, but I still vote for the Maritime. For the possibilities of misinformation an act can be made. As I heard there is a mod that helps the newspaper in some way. To make use of this, they should just give the Mod a read before posting as he then could point out the falsehood and such. Also no readable newspaper shows truth these days as its boring. Misinformation, if used correctly, can actually be the reason even the SL part takers would read it. I know that this is suppose to be an overview of the weekly events and misinformation will confuse many others. But I believe misinformation is better then no information at all.

(Sorry for possible mistakes, really tired to double check...)
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