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Shichibukai and Yonkou; Question
Topic Started: Jan 30 2012, 02:39 PM (2,812 Views)
Chizzah
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Take it that means no. I respect that.

Got a question. Say four crews enter the NW at about the same time. At that moment they'll be the closest to becoming PK. Say these four crews have a combined SD of 5000 each (meaning 5000/10 each character). That'll mean they're pretty strong. Say we rookie crew go like: "Dude I'm want to join one of these dude's crews with my own crew." What then?

The way I see it not even staff can stop that since we can decide who we want to help. That's our choice.

So imo Hainen is absolutely right.

Only difference is if I feel like calling the dudes Yonkou that's my business. Same as if the majority feels like calling these dudes Yonkou that's there business. Yonkou isn't an occupation like Hainen said. It's a title similar to "People's Champ" or "The Greatest of All Time".

So we're wasting time with this discussion. Staff already said that PCs can become Shichibukai. So the only thing left is Admirals. I'll help Marine advocate for that since it is an occupation.

And I'll be the first to refer to the four strongest and most influential people in the NW (when the time comes) as the Yonkou as it is a term I'm allowed to use since this is free-form.

What Hainen said now opened my eyes. If you become a Yonkou what will you get from the site? Nothing. What you got through your own hard work and those who support you is what makes you a Yonkou.

So now that Shichibukai and Yonkou is official (because we shouldn't worry about what staff calls the four strongest/influential people in the new world) let's focus on getting our Marine brethren our rp brothers the opportunity to become Admiral.
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The whole 'site is dying' if I can't get what I want tactic is really wearing thin on my patience. Just because you can't be the most biggest baddest thing on the site doesn't mean the site is dying, it simply means we won't give you the title as theres too much associated with it.
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Chizzah
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Was that a reply to my post?
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No it was a reply to some other post.
People know which post but this is getting hot again. Either people keep discussing this in a proper manner or we just close the topic.
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Chizzah
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I'm up for closing it. This wasn't meant to get heated at all.

I'd just like to make a final statement that doesn't discriminate against anyone before this is locked.

Admiral is something that the members need to discuss with the staff in another thread. We already have the answer concerning the Shichibukai and the Yonkou.

Shichibukai is available to PCs as an occupation with whatever pros and cons staff decide to put with the position. So that problem is sorted out.

Yonkou isn't an occupation or position but instead nothing but a title (for lack of a better word) the public identify the four pirates closest to becoming the Pirate King with. We, the members of the site, are the public and if we choose to refer to the first four people to enter the New World as Yonkou (regardless of their overall strength) that is our right and no one can stop us from doing so since Yonkou isn't an occupation and we cannot give "game-mechanic" pros and cons to it.

Finally I think it would be unfair for pirates to reach such prestigious titles if marines are stopped at Vice-Admiral. So I ask someone with a marine character to start a new thread (with a poll) to allow PCs to become Admirals and I promise I will support you in that endeavour.
Edited by Chizzah, Feb 1 2012, 01:20 PM.
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The whole 'site is dying' if I can't get what I want tactic is really wearing thin on my patience. Just because you can't be the most biggest baddest thing on the site doesn't mean the site is dying, it simply means we won't give you the title as theres too much associated with it.
I don't recall ever saying anything like that. I have not gotten hostile, been uncivil, used foul or inappropriate language, threatened anyone, caused any sort of ruckus, or negatively affected the RP in any way. The only thing I have done is question the logic behind the system.

First off, if you're strong enough to take out the Yonkou themselves, then I tend to doubt that their subordinates coming after you is going to be much of an issue.


Second off, Hainen, your semi-description of the Yonkou seems to be going off in a direction that no one has yet considered. So I'd like to ask, how are the Yonkou used? In what sort of situation would the mods pull out a Yonkou NPC?

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And we're back lol

I haven't seen Yuan say anything inappropriate so I'm with him on that one. Also the man has a point. How are the Yonkou NPCs going to be used? Interesting question. Don't lock yet.
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It wasn't aimed at you Yuan. I was pretty sure it'd be obvious who it was about.

Anywho there have been a couple big npcs revealed though we tend to refrain from just dumping them out. We like to set them up for big events which would be important to the world.
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Would you rather face whitebeard or his 50 battleship army of New World-level followers?

I assume the former.

Just because you are strong doesn't mean the opposing numbers do not matter.

As for what the Yonkou NPC's are doing, for instance, they are destroying islands in North Blue.
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I am aware that one of the Yonkou showed up in the Blues (seems a little questionable to me...).

What I am asking is what is the overall function of the NPC Yonkou?

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What I am asking is what is the overall function of the NPC Yonkou?


...wat

The same overall function as any other fictitious character. The same overall function as your characters, or a random person on the streets of Logue Town. Existing. Living their fictive lives.

Your question is not well-defined enough to have an objective answer save a nihilistic one, which contributes nothing to the conversation.

It's a really bad question.
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Assuming Dark's post is aimed at me(which makes no sense, considering the contents of my post doesn't match up to his reply. And more suited towards HL's statement.) the site isn't dying. It's just declining at the moment of you ask me. And the topic at hand is simply a reason why IMO. Try harder next time.
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Man, let's all go kill that Yonkou in the North. Then the first PC to enter the New World can be the next Yonkou. lol who's with me?

Also, someone told me you guys had a competition for making the NPCs apps and it hasn't been used yet. So I think the least that could come out of this thread for now is 7 apps for the NPC Shichibukai, 3 for the Admirals and 4 for the Yonkou. That way people know that they're there and what they're up against.
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I'll rephrase it.

Is one of the functions of the Yonkou NPCs to prevent PC crews from advancing to the end of New World and claiming the title of Pirate King?

In a situation where a PC crew has entered New World and is advancing towards Raftel, the supposed end of New World and the Grand Line, would an NPC Yonkou be put in their path to prevent them from advancing?

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Also, someone told me you guys had a competition for making the NPCs apps and it hasn't been used yet. So I think the least that could come out of this thread for now is 7 apps for the NPC Shichibukai, 3 for the Admirals and 4 for the Yonkou. That way people know that they're there and what they're up against.


High-end npcs are handled by staff. Further more, these contest NPCs are being looked at by some staff members as we speak so we can integrate them into our system. I know it's been long overdue, but hopefully some of them can be introduced rather soon.

As Hainen has already said, the titles of have an enormous amount of power (in terms of influence) behind them. And when I said maybe, I meant maybe. If there was any possible way to remove their level of influence and army-backing abilities, then these titles might be PC owned. Nvm, scratch that. I'm giving everyone (including myself) too much hope.
Edited by Chips, Feb 1 2012, 02:18 PM.

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