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| Tweet Topic Started: Jan 15 2012, 03:31 AM (835 Views) | |||
| Reaper | Jan 15 2012, 03:31 AM Post #1 | ||
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As nami clima tact is made up of 3 balls i was wondering if anyone could give me an estimate on how much it would cost just to obtain the "cool ball' section, i wish to use it with one of my characters but im not sure how much it would cost. | ||
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| Darkhunter | Jan 15 2012, 04:32 AM Post #2 | ||
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well the thing is if memory serves me correctly that climatact was made up of several dials which all interacted with each other for various effects. I could take a guess at which dials were used but i can't be sure though it could be listed on the wikia. Anyway if its the climatact i'm thinking of it would be extremely expensive. | ||
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| Reaper | Jan 15 2012, 05:15 AM Post #3 | ||
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Yes but i specifically want the dials that create the cool ball section and not the rest. | ||
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| AngelMayLaugh | Jan 15 2012, 06:07 AM Post #4 | ||
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I suppose you'd need a heat dial and/or a breath dial modified to blow cold air? |
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| Reaper | Jan 15 2012, 06:09 AM Post #5 | ||
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Exactly, i only want the one specific cool ball not the entire clima tact and this was possible even before skypiea ark but after she could create more mirages so for now how much would the single cool ball part cost. | ||
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| AngelMayLaugh | Jan 15 2012, 06:15 AM Post #6 | ||
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Ask for the prices of heat and breath dials. I'm not a mod, but I think it'd be somewhere in the 30mil'ish range. | ||
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| ♥ Singularity | Jan 15 2012, 06:15 AM Post #7 | ||
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pretty sure cool ball was just produced by breath dials so your looking at around 20 mill give or take some depending on materials, plus probably need the inventor profession. But don't expect these balls to be anything massively sub zero, just like the temperature of a cold wind really. | ||
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| Reaper | Jan 15 2012, 04:30 PM Post #8 | ||
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They are capable of cooling the air enough to make mirages thats fine by me. | ||
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| Yuan | Jan 15 2012, 08:49 PM Post #9 | ||
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Nami's climatact wasn't able to create the Cool, Heat, or Moist balls before going to Sky Island. Before Sky Island was Alabasta, and all it did was those "amusing party tricks" like the little water fountain and the birds on wires that spun around entangling the opponent and spinning them around. The balls were purely dial-created. A Breath Dial/Wind Dial (Can't remember what that one is called) or a Flavor Dial could possibly be used to store cold air to make the cool balls. But, of course, the mirage stuff from the Cool Balls would only work in an environment with lots of warm air. You'd probably need to be a navigator and probably have the miracle-worker trait to be able to read the climate correctly, or make it so that the air around you is warmer. Either that, or perhaps get a heat dial as well so that you can heat up the air around you. Because, as Angel pointed out in the description above, the mirage tempo techniques revolve around the difference in air temperature causing refraction of the light. That is, if its the Mirage Tempo style techniques you are interested in. Edit: But of course, if you already have a navigator, and especially if you have miracle worker, then your pretty much all set and all you need is the dial. Of course, it should be remembered that whatever weapon you decide to put it in will have to be payed for as well, so it depends on your plan for the weapon/item as to how much you will have to pay for it. And I don't think you'd need inventor just to put the dial in a weapon. Putting dials in weapons is a fairly simple task, and your navigator skills should easily cover the use of the dial in the weapon. Edited by Yuan, Jan 15 2012, 08:56 PM.
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| Reaper | Jan 15 2012, 09:07 PM Post #10 | ||
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She was still capable using basic one person mirages in alabasta arc but after skypiea she was then able to make multiple mirages in one go. | ||
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| Celes | Jan 15 2012, 10:28 PM Post #11 | ||
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I have no earthly idea why, but it seems like everybody does not seem recall that prior to Skypeia, and thus, before dials were brought up, Nami received the Clima Tact from Usopp, which at that point in time, was very much capable of creating the three elemental balls. Hell, it happened at the beginning of the fight with Miss Doublefinger. These elemental balls weren't very potent at all by themselves, unlike the Perfect Clima Tact's and Sorcery Clima Tact's dial-powered versions, but they (the original elemental balls) were not, for the umpteenth time and then some, a product of dials. She received and used it during the Alabasta arc, which was before Skypeia. I seriously don't understand how, almost literally, everyone seems to have forgotten that.
Edited by Celes, Jan 15 2012, 10:34 PM.
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| AngelMayLaugh | Jan 16 2012, 06:49 AM Post #12 | ||
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It'd be easiest/simplest to reproduce the technique with dials. He could try to bs something to make it like Usopp's, but we don't exactly how Usopp made the first clima-tact. | ||
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| ♥ Singularity | Jan 16 2012, 07:42 AM Post #13 | ||
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you would need inventor to produce "cool balls" as this involves some method of trapping bubbles of cold air, otherwise its just a weapon with the ability to produce a slight breeze. for mirages you'd need the heat and cool balls. as far as doing it without dials works i don't really know what pseudo science you could use to pull it off, aside from having some sort of weapon that uses fuel to power a fan and a heating element but doesn't seem impossible. |
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| Celes | Jan 16 2012, 09:45 AM Post #14 | ||
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And that's why requiring science and logic for a lot of weapons and equipment and like is silly. We don't know how humans are able to create shockwaves or evoke their "wills" to affect their environments neither, yet they're still allowed without any real justification outside of being "superhuman". Edited by Celes, Jan 16 2012, 09:45 AM.
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| Darkhunter | Jan 16 2012, 09:54 AM Post #15 | ||
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Not exactly, we know it was a inventor type thing which is allowed to have some level of disbelief, as Ussop kinda functioned for awhile as the crew's jack-of-all trades. As said before dials are the simplest and most effective way to go about this but they're really expensive, if you wanted something that wasn't quite so expensive your best bet for reproducing a cool ball would be a invention though you would need to be a inventor or having a inventor in your crew to purchase such a thing. | ||
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