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The Cbox; Srsly
Topic Started: Nov 17 2011, 08:39 AM (2,638 Views)
Benjamin Kaito
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So it seems there's some people in cbox that are moderators and that use that power to their own pleasure. Now, while it might be fun for them, it's no that funny for the targeted people, which in this case, it's me, but it could be anyone else. For pretty much the past week (and I haven't even been on that much) and several times before, I've been banned from it many times, some of those times, I don't even know why, I just come up on the next day and find myself unable to chat, no reason given for that. With that said, what I ask is that the modship on the cbox to be given to the people that are either mods on the site and capable of using it without abuse, or stick it to the admins because it seems like some of the current ones, specially those two lovebirds, can't use it other then to their own needs and even to backup each other. Their love must be intense.

Anyway, that's all I suggest. Some will probably say, "Oh but it's the cbox. Who cares?" and I'll say I do, others might as well. A lot of crap goes around there but it's also a good and easy way to talk to people about stuff going on the site and with their characters without being forced to use private messages so yeah, less hard on the ban button, specially on those with no reason because I can't deny there are some I deserved.

In conclusion, what I'm asking is, check out the cbox mods, take out the kids and put some adults on it. Kids get stressed too much and should know that if they don't want to read, they should leave.

Also, I know Speak's answer will probably be something like "I'll have a talk with them", if any, but we both know that won't work.

And no, this isn't spam and it's in the right section as it concerns the site since the cbox is part of it.
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I haven't been here that long but I don't think the admins care that much of what happens in the cbox. If they did they would have done something about it after the first 100 or so complaints about I've seen in my short 9 months here. I can only imagine how many we're posted before my arrival to the site. But I do agree that if anyone should be allowed to banned it should be for valid reasons and not because you didn't like he emoticon a person was using or some bullshit like that.
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This is an issue i've thought could do with looking at for a while aswell, whilst i understand the arguments of "each mod has their personal ban criteria" and "You've gotta expect some level of trolling on the Cbox" it does seem that the tools are more frequently than i would like used for someones enjoyment at the expense of someone else.

The odd lolban here and there would be fine as long as it is just here and there and not repeatedly to the same people.
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Man, I'm banned all the time

Must be something wrong with the mods

Especially since Titan bans people all the time

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Man, I'm banned all the time

Must be something wrong with the mods

Especially since Titan bans people all the time

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Less spam here please, this is an area for serious discussion. Go back to the basement if you want to write random garbage, or stick to your current sl posts. Same applies to sugi, who only posted an emoticon.
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As much as I got used to the lolban, still think the cbox could use some form of decency. Like HL said it's a great way to communicate with members but if you can't even talk on it what's the fun? Cbox is a passtime for members while their apps and stuff get looked over. Sure there's some trolling involved in that passtime but some people get overlooked and others punished for the slightest of reasons if we are to believe there are any in the first place.

So yeah, Kinda support HL on this one.
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I deal with it. My life, like, doesn't revolve around the c-box and stuff. No support coming from me.
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It comes down to simply the people banned aren't people who are that important or are known for 'bothering' the people who do the banning. Is it dickish? Yeah. Is it fair? Not really. Can and will anything be done about it? Not in the slightest.

This has been an issue with certain mods since forever. Where they accept certain things from certain people yet disallow so much as a "Hi" from someone else.

True, I'm unfortunately on the same side of things as HL. Where I can come on, carry on a nice conversation or two without any problems only to find myself banned later by an unknown force who has some form of issues against me.

But the issue is since the Cbox mods are 'suppose' to be making the CBox free from people whom they believe are making things harder for members to communicate. The people whom they ban freely are those whom they view as the ones who simply cause trouble in the CBox.

The problem with addressing this issue is that the Cbox mods are composed of roughly the same people who are of sound mind. As much as I want to say "They're wrong. Not everyone who they single out is a potential issue." For whatever reason, being a Cbox mod and their judgement is based on their opinion. If they want you banned from the Cbox they can easily create some out of the way reasoning for you being banned.

If post number 5 is any indicator, we can respect them without liking their judgement. But there's a pretty good chance that they're free to do whatever they want in the Cbox.

Also on a last note, CBox mods are based on people whom the creators of the site 'trust'. So.... yeah... the idea of giving powers to people who are mods wouldn't exactly take it from people who aren't mods. Since these people are trusted to the same degree as actual mods, if not more.

I'm in support of HL, assuming it would mean Mods who were stripped of their positions or simply left them on their own accord would also lose Cbox mod powers. Unfortunately, final say from what I've been told comes down to Hainen and not Speak.
Edited by OnishiGhetto, Nov 17 2011, 12:50 PM.
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This reminds me of when King Arthur, Donkey Kong, and a group of otter-llama hybrids held an intervention to tell me I needed to stop taking LSD.

They were so supportive at the time, but since quitting I haven't seen them even once.
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To be fair, the people who're being constantly banned by Shamma(Me, Sugi, Supa, and apparently HL.) all are known to be trollish, and dicks at times. However, sometimes the Cbox can be very useful, even to members like us. The Cbox is as just as important as the actual forum itself(questions, interactions with other players, etc.). So being banned from the Cbox constantly all together makes the site less enjoyable.

Also, if you aren't being banned as frequently as those listed above, don't come to this topic and go. "It's just the Cbox" I'd assure you, if you received the same treatment your opinion would change. That's how I felt about the Cbox when Sugi was constantly being banned and I wasn't. Being banned in the Cbox all the time, for no reason is just silly. The fact that these unjustified bans have been going on for damn near a year makes my stomach turn, especially when the staff know who's causing the problem.

I support HL. ( Even though I know a damn thing wont change, I felt the need to offer my views upon the subject.)
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The spam has a specific forum. You should know that by know. Suspensions next time.

On the subject: this comes up every now and then. And each time, the iteration is the same as the one before.

  • You wish for a more serious cbox.
  • I posit that there are two options: A cbox which adheres to site principes, or a cbox that does not. The current format, in case you hadn't noticed, is of the latter kind. I offer to change it to the former kind.
  • You all think it's a great idea.
  • I go through with it.
  • Give it a week.
  • Everyone is banned, mods included.
  • Cbox goes back to trolling mode.


If you're willing to give the serious cbox a try once more, then I'll go ahead and make the changes. Mods who can't cope included. If you want standards to be applied to mods, then standards will also be applied to members. Do be aware that it means that the trollings, bad jokes, sexism, character fuckery and insults stop. And people usually can't cope with that.
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I, unlike some perhaps, am not asking for a new cbox, with new rules. All that I'm asking is for the people who run it, run it accordingly what it is now and don't use the power that was given to them to have their own fun or have their personal revenges. But I also know that some of the current people or rather Titan and Shamma, won't be able to do that.

However, if people want to implement some rules to make it less of a trollfest, I'm up for it, as long as the rules are written and shown to everyone, unlike last time where people were wondering what was bannable and what was not, pretty much going for trial and error. Leaving it to each mods discretion isn't really working, well it never worked.
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wouldn't it be simpler for the mods to list their criteria for banning here, thus it will be publicly known what is bannable and what is not? I got banned by shamma for posting the :3 face without any explanation why it was bannable, I understand different mods have different criteria, if those criteria was simply a known factor I'm willing to bet there wouldn't be as many problems. That being said I only post on the cbox once in a blue moon so any changes probably wouldn't have much effect on me.

Edit: posted this before fully readying BK'sl ast post so much of this was redundant, my appologies. I'm in favor of having the mods criteria known. A serious cbox sounds no fun and walking blind through a mine field doesn't sound much better.
Edited by geomease, Nov 17 2011, 10:08 PM.
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So, essentially, you want a serious cbox only for the mods, and let you continue to roam rampant as you have before? An utopistic ideal if ever I heard one. Besides, you people wouldn't get much happier even if each mod provided the ban list. For example, mine looks something like this:

  • Caps.
  • Lionface.
  • Eyeraping colours or backgrounds.
  • Postmodernistic replies in discussions.
  • Banning as a means to end a conversation, usually with sexual content.
  • Over the top insults, sexism or racism.
  • Spam.
  • Porn.
  • You being obnoxious or annoying.


...And you can fit pretty much all cbox behaviour into that last clause.
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