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| Dyson | Sep 26 2011, 08:13 PM Post #1 | ||||||||||||
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Character: Mariko Hel Eljudnir Request: New Technique Changes:
+Fortune?! (Retained for note)
Edited by Dyson, Sep 30 2011, 01:45 PM.
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Mariko Hel Eljudnir • No Position • Carpenter/Martial Artist • No Crew • Bounty: 58,000,000 • SD Earned: 200 • Beli: 41,000,000 • Location: Island of Rage, Grand Line • Strength: 80 • Speed: 45 • Stamina: 70 • Accuracy: 35 • Fortune: 53 • Lark Reyes • Commander • Inventor / Marksman/Martial Artist/Smith • The Ardent Wings • Commendations: 41 • SD Earned: 287 • Beli: 45,572,500 • Location: Kyuka, Route 2 • Strength: 53 • Speed: 125 • Stamina: 54 • Accuracy: 125 • Fortune: 67 • Veice Vicious • No Position • Navigator / Weapon Specialist • No Crew • Threat: 103.5 • SD Earned: 215 • Beli: 20,850,000 • Location: Loguetown, East Blue • Strength: 84 • Speed: 84 • Stamina: 55 • Accuracy: 50 • Fortune: 57 • Ritsuka 'Rizumu' Meiban • No Position • Entertainer/Weapon Specialist • No Crew • Bounty: 60,00,000 • SD Earned: 214 • Beli: 48,900,000 • Location: Naia Island, Route 4 • Strength: 45 • Speed: 60 • Stamina: 54 • Accuracy: 65 • Fortune: 56 • Remember those who tread before you. Jeanne Larahe • Alycia Rose Crawford • Sanosuke 'Onii-chan' Harada • Lina Aconite | |||||||||||||
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| Darkhunter | Sep 27 2011, 08:33 PM Post #2 | ||||||||||||
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Sorry 1. I've heard before that you can't boost fortune...ever... at all. If you got someone like Speak or Hainen to say yes and provide evidence of their vouch i'd flag this. 2. I'd say this entire ability would be more along the lines of a rank 28 |
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| ♠ The Unspeakable | Sep 28 2011, 02:46 PM Post #3 | ||||||||||||
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We have, to this point, maintained a very strong stance against techniques that allow the buffing or debuffing of fortune. Here are some reasons: 1. Fortune is already a very powerful stat when it's linked to an offensive ability, as it is in the case of most of those who use it the most. 2. The stat is, nominally, worth four times more than any other stat, given how it progresses when not buffed normally. 3. Originally and to this day, Fortune is meant to function as more of a meta-stat; boosting or lowering it with a technique is a bit too direct. 4. Buffing fortune is not the same as lowering an opponent's stamina in that it makes everything you do to everyone stronger, rather than increasing the relative harm suffered by one or more individual debuff victims. 5. We've stopped a lot of people from making similar techs in the past. It'd be unfair to everyone who's tried to do this if it were just allowed now. In summary, fortune is a powerful stat that's used for many important calculations. Having the stat that sets technique power boosted by other techniques is a little too yo-yo dawg for my taste. Yaksha didn't want you being blindly denied with no explanation, so I took the time to come here and explain exactly why I'm opposed to fortune buffing, so I hope this post helps make it clear why I say: I'm sorry, but this cannot and will not be allowed at this rank or any. |
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| Dyson | Sep 28 2011, 02:55 PM Post #4 | ||||||||||||
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I submit on the Fortune issue. I know all the problems, but as Mariko's technique power cannot be boosted through anything other than pure SD or fortune whoring, I put this forward for consideration. I accept that +Fortune is impossible and unacceptable. Thank you for getting to this so quickly, and at all. That aside, I'm resubmitting the technique without the stat alter. It now merely redefines her state and how her techniques act. If making that the full cost of the technique is still too much, I will raise it to the next rank benchmark. Without the bonus of a stat alter, it's limited to one major effect. |
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Mariko Hel Eljudnir • No Position • Carpenter/Martial Artist • No Crew • Bounty: 58,000,000 • SD Earned: 200 • Beli: 41,000,000 • Location: Island of Rage, Grand Line • Strength: 80 • Speed: 45 • Stamina: 70 • Accuracy: 35 • Fortune: 53 • Lark Reyes • Commander • Inventor / Marksman/Martial Artist/Smith • The Ardent Wings • Commendations: 41 • SD Earned: 287 • Beli: 45,572,500 • Location: Kyuka, Route 2 • Strength: 53 • Speed: 125 • Stamina: 54 • Accuracy: 125 • Fortune: 67 • Veice Vicious • No Position • Navigator / Weapon Specialist • No Crew • Threat: 103.5 • SD Earned: 215 • Beli: 20,850,000 • Location: Loguetown, East Blue • Strength: 84 • Speed: 84 • Stamina: 55 • Accuracy: 50 • Fortune: 57 • Ritsuka 'Rizumu' Meiban • No Position • Entertainer/Weapon Specialist • No Crew • Bounty: 60,00,000 • SD Earned: 214 • Beli: 48,900,000 • Location: Naia Island, Route 4 • Strength: 45 • Speed: 60 • Stamina: 54 • Accuracy: 65 • Fortune: 56 • Remember those who tread before you. Jeanne Larahe • Alycia Rose Crawford • Sanosuke 'Onii-chan' Harada • Lina Aconite | |||||||||||||
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| Darkhunter | Sep 28 2011, 04:41 PM Post #5 | ||||||||||||
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k Topic is flagged for approval. |
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| Yaksha | Sep 30 2011, 09:50 AM Post #6 | ||||||||||||
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Can we get a duration on the cooldown beyond 'a short time'? | ||||||||||||
![]() Yaksha (Laneh) • Assassin • Martial Artist • Navigator • Thief • Ragnarok Pirates • Bounty: 75,000,000 • SD Earned: 0/300 • Beli: 35,350,000 • Location: Weatheria Strength: 57------Stamina:50------Speed:75--------Accuracy:60-------Fortune:78 Malikai • Marksman • Smith • Doctor • Scientist • N/A • Threat: 34.5 • SD Earned: 0/177 • Beli: 18,750,000 • Location: Candy Island Strength: 45------Stamina:39------Speed:40--------Accuracy:60-------Fortune:61 Juan • Inventor • Weapon Specialist Bounty: 5,000,000 • SD Earned:0/88 • Beli: 23,350,000 • Location: Strength: 45------Stamina:35------Speed:25--------Accuracy:25-------Fortune:30 Ahriman (Savlin) • Doctor • Scientist • N/A • Threat: 2 • SD Earned: 0/47 • Beli: 8,270,000 • Location: Pharsalus Island Strength: 15------Stamina:13------Speed:19--------Accuracy:25-------Fortune:23 | |||||||||||||
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| Dyson | Sep 30 2011, 01:13 PM Post #7 | ||||||||||||
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It now requires 2 hours - Stamina * 2 minutes of cooldown. Once it requires 0 minutes, it cannot be used for the same amount of time as it was used (4 post cooldown after 4 posts of use) or it can be used again after an in character break (Sleeping, resting, notable passage of time in a single post).
Edited by Dyson, Sep 30 2011, 01:46 PM.
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Mariko Hel Eljudnir • No Position • Carpenter/Martial Artist • No Crew • Bounty: 58,000,000 • SD Earned: 200 • Beli: 41,000,000 • Location: Island of Rage, Grand Line • Strength: 80 • Speed: 45 • Stamina: 70 • Accuracy: 35 • Fortune: 53 • Lark Reyes • Commander • Inventor / Marksman/Martial Artist/Smith • The Ardent Wings • Commendations: 41 • SD Earned: 287 • Beli: 45,572,500 • Location: Kyuka, Route 2 • Strength: 53 • Speed: 125 • Stamina: 54 • Accuracy: 125 • Fortune: 67 • Veice Vicious • No Position • Navigator / Weapon Specialist • No Crew • Threat: 103.5 • SD Earned: 215 • Beli: 20,850,000 • Location: Loguetown, East Blue • Strength: 84 • Speed: 84 • Stamina: 55 • Accuracy: 50 • Fortune: 57 • Ritsuka 'Rizumu' Meiban • No Position • Entertainer/Weapon Specialist • No Crew • Bounty: 60,00,000 • SD Earned: 214 • Beli: 48,900,000 • Location: Naia Island, Route 4 • Strength: 45 • Speed: 60 • Stamina: 54 • Accuracy: 65 • Fortune: 56 • Remember those who tread before you. Jeanne Larahe • Alycia Rose Crawford • Sanosuke 'Onii-chan' Harada • Lina Aconite | |||||||||||||
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| Chips | Oct 2 2011, 07:13 PM Post #8 | ||||||||||||
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